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Its in my bank account, now please ask no more about this money...
Bluemour Discussion Thread XIV - Facts Not Welcome
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That's a fair enough and valid pro to keeping it. But like this year, we cannot be certain we can trade it for a mature aged body we actually want. Hence, I still view control what we can control now and make use of it's currency in the present, if we can. There are pros and cons for doing both. You now know why we would consider it. Does not mean we certainly will. The offer has to be good enough for us to see the advantages to our liking.
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I love a graph (hello alan kohler) or spreadsheet. Thanks Arr0w for the color coded list updateGiven where I think players will be bid on and how many picks they could need
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Id hold onto our 2019 1st and go back to the gws well one more time...
Free agents Tomlinson, Coniglio and Haynes would be handy additions. Josh Kelly and Hopper are the other 2 id love (would require a trade).
We know their cap is tight and i expect it to be again next year. If we could get 2 of those free agents and 1 of kelly or hopper by trade, id suggest our 2020 looks extremely bright.
I would like to see us hold next years 1st
Free agents Tomlinson, Coniglio and Haynes would be handy additions. Josh Kelly and Hopper are the other 2 id love (would require a trade).
We know their cap is tight and i expect it to be again next year. If we could get 2 of those free agents and 1 of kelly or hopper by trade, id suggest our 2020 looks extremely bright.
I would like to see us hold next years 1st
There is controlling it & then keeping your options open.
Melbourne is the perfect example, they traded it, they didn’t keep the option open, now in 2018 there is a chance for them to get May, however they don’t have a first round pick to deal with, so to obtain 1 they need to get may, they are in a fight with Freo over Hogan, they lost control of it.
Difference being they used theirs for a mature player.
You yourself said we want to use it for a mature player, however it’s not going to happen. So now your suggesting that because we couldn’t use it for a mature player to move it on for a couple of picks this year and maybe a pick next year on a few kids.
That option completely shuts the door on it EVER being used on a mature player, it’s not a case of if we don’t use it by Wednesday night we can never use it on a mature player so get something. It can be used on a mature player in 12 months, it can be broken into other picks in 12 months over the 2019 draft and the 2020. Yes it has more value now, but it’s a far bigger risk to do it now rather than next year as well.
If the goal was mature bodies for next years pick 1 we sit on it until that is no longer possible, it’s no longer possible at the end of the 2019 trade period not after the 2018 trade period
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That’s a fair assessment
On the surface I don't like it but if we end up with say pick 5 and Eagles pick 10 it's a big win.
Crows have pick 7 this year, Dogs pick 9 the year before, Eagles pick certainly not a given to be a late first rounder.
Could possibly trade up to 11 or so with those early 2nds.
Cant say ive watched a lot of Nic Newman. Ive checked his stats and looks like he picked up some really good disposal numbers in 2017 and then dropped off slightly in 2018. Did he change position? What kind of player is he? Strengths/weaknesses? Why hasnt Sydney signed him already if hes got the right stuff?
Probably not........but if it was traded to GC for pick 2 and extras, they would likely take him I think the pill is trying to say.
No, they get removed from your pick in the corresponding round... so we wont have any trouble matching BSOS and the Hickmotts
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Why ccouldnt we have picked up the older brother with those state selections? Hes 19, did he not nominate for the draft previously?
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Can't see us trading down from the pointy end of the 1st round of next year's draft to the latter just for the sake of a couple of 2nd rounders.
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Combination of factors. Did well in 2017, and struggled a bit in early 18, so much so he wasn't in their 22 - emergence of Lloyd hurt him a little.
I'm surprised he wants out.
Maybe just one of those situations where a tenor contract is better than a rolling 1 year or even a ‘just wait until trade period ends’
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TRP's rumour post seems to indicate Adelaide would take Walsh over Luko if they had pick 1. That is interesting indeed
Read above. Fairly sure during the season I heard a family member or some relative on a radio station hinting he was being used for roles he not suited to. I am fairly sure as above it was a negating role, when he is a more creative/rebound type back half player. Swans also tried to turn Tom Mitchell into a high half forward/mid guy before he left. Sometimes clubs are just stubborn with a player and do not play him to his best assets. For the player, changing clubs tends to be the best move for their career.
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The whole Shiel deal blew up and up until it was bigger than Hitler's gas bill. It all just got a bit stupid.
I feel quite relieved that he ended up going elsewhere. Let * deal with the hype, speculation and expectation that will follow. We don't need all that beat-up around our club at this stage. I want our club to get on with quietly rebuilding the team and developing our young guns, without an overpaid prima donna landing in their midst.
(Hmmm, I typed this yesterday, but it didn't post for some reason. I'll give it another go, though it's no longer relevant to the conversation.)
I feel quite relieved that he ended up going elsewhere. Let * deal with the hype, speculation and expectation that will follow. We don't need all that beat-up around our club at this stage. I want our club to get on with quietly rebuilding the team and developing our young guns, without an overpaid prima donna landing in their midst.
(Hmmm, I typed this yesterday, but it didn't post for some reason. I'll give it another go, though it's no longer relevant to the conversation.
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I am not suggesting we certainly move it on. I am just very open to the attractive option if some club like Gold Coast want to make a play for our picks, we very very open to milking a rare opportunity to turn situation of one young gun in a superdraft into two plus still have a pick next year shifted back a few spots. The challenge I see is we really wanted that mature age A grade mid this year as the preference, if we cannot get that, I still think strengthen the youth in our list whilst we can in a superdraft is an attractive second option. I still think next 48 hours we focus to see if we can unearth that mature age A grade mid for the future 1st rounder and need a future second rounder at same time or just before. After that time passed we strengthen our draft hand if offers are so good, too good to refuse and then for rookie draft time and free agent de-listment time we pick up the best mature aged mid we can find, or even late in the draft. I am open to taking a Mitch Grigg at pick 77 for example or via rookie draft. If we can unlock a Jack Steven, Luke Parker, Brad Crouch or Lachie Neale in next 48 hours, then awesome.
If we do pick up Nic Newman I'm hoping to see plenty of Seinfeld memes saying "Helllloooo Newman"
I am already over the pics of Seinfield Newman...lol
BAHAHAHAHAHA! Gold
Greg Wells is coming. The bad news is Dees want Rod Ashman. Screw that, they can have Michael Young and Vinne Catoggio now we got Glascott, Maylin and Marcou up and running.Not sure where I am up to, but I think Will Setterfield just nominated us
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I can't believe Hawthorn will get Scully for pick 53. Surely we were sniffing around and missed out - that is an absolute steal!
Once again GWS screw us for value but palm off other players for nearly nothing
Once again GWS screw us for value but palm off other players for nearly nothing
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