Blues must turn 'defence into attack'

[Pamam]

Blues must turn 'defence into attack'

http://news.theage.com.au/blues-must-turn-defence-into-attack/20080328-2245.html

Carlton coach Brett Ratten wants his inexperienced defence to turn the challenge of holding St Kilda's big three forwards into a strength for the Blues in Saturday night's clash at Telstra Dome.

Ratten backed young fullback Michael Jamison to play against one of Fraser Gehrig, Nick Riewoldt or Justin Koschitzke, despite struggling against Richmond star Matthew Richardson in the opening round.

But he said Carlton needed to turn defence into attack against the Saints.
"Do you play (Jamison) on Nick Riewoldt or do you play him a bit closer to goal on Fraser or even Kosi?" Ratten said.

"And can you run off these bigger type players? That's the other thing.
"You get three big forwards that stay pretty much at home, can you hurt them the other way? That's the debate."

Ratten said while Richardson kicked a match-winning five-goal haul last week, it was not completely Jamison's fault, as other defenders should have helped him more.

He said defensive pressure from the midfield was also crucial.
"It's more sometimes the supply and how the ball gets down there that might help our backs," he said.

Ratten welcomed the added depth up forward provided by the return of Brad Fisher from a thumb injury and was hopeful that was an area the Blues might hurt the Saints.

He said young ruckman Shaun Hampson's return from injury, to provide back-up for Cameron Cloke in the ruck, would also be important.

 

[bibi01]

He said defensive pressure from the midfield was also crucial.
"It's more sometimes the supply and how the ball gets down there that might help our backs," he said.

this has been a major problem for a long time now

our onballers are great at running fwd but horrible at tracking back and picking up their opponent or even any opponent

 

[Bluebear]

If we are relying on run from defence to win we are dead. They'll flood and cut down this run.

We need to go forward constantly from the centre square and not allow them numbers back, and we then need to kick goals and put plenty of scoreboard pressure on early.

If Hampson. Cloke Stevens and Judd have very good games we should go close to winning.

 

[surpstar]

How can this be done when the opposition keep kicking goals against you?

 

[JeffDunne]

"You get three big forwards that stay pretty much at home. . . "[/I]

He's including Riewoldt in this?

Oh dear.

 

[I LOVE THE CFC]

If we are relying on run from defence to win we are dead. They'll flood and cut down this run.

We need to go forward constantly from the centre square and not allow them numbers back, and we then need to kick goals and put plenty of scoreboard pressure on early.

If Hampson. Cloke Stevens and Judd have very good games we should go close to winning.

Waite is almost the most important man on the field if he stops st. nick we are on our way. G-train won't fire and kozi well who knows

 

[TorresIsGod]

Kosi is the one in my opinion.

We know that Gehrig is underdone, yet, if he kicks no more than 2 goals, I'll be pleased, we know what we'll expect from Riewoldt, he'll get a tonne of the ball outside F50, he'll run and run and run, it's when he starts to get the ball within goal range that he'll hurt us, if Waite can stop him getting the ball near the F50 or inside it, we'll be in good shape.

Who is going to play on Kosi, he's the key for mine.

He can play as a full forward and lead out of the square, he can play as a CHF and kick it up to him and he'll mark it, he can also drop back into the hole and play between FF and CHF, the key to winning this game is to stop the ball getting to Kosi, and if we cannot do that, someone has to completely shut Kosi out of the match.

 

[LJ Garner]

He's including Riewoldt in this?

Oh dear.

I know...talk about lack of knowledge :S...even if his scouts could've told him that riewoldt plays CHF, and usually stays around the 50 mark :S...only time he goes to goal square was when gehrig was out, or up in def.

 

[thylacine60]

Waite is almost the most important man on the field if he stops st. nick we are on our way. G-train won't fire and kozi well who knows

Concussed in the pre-match warm-up?

 

[THE_GUN]

kosi...........3 fev..........3
reiwoldt......4 fish.........3
gherig........5 edwards....2
milne..........2 betts.......2
midfeid........8 midfeild......5
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22 goals 15 goals

how close would you guys think i am............ 45-50 point margin
i think that would be about the expected margin, and would you guys take that or would the majority be dissapointed.

 

[Stig O'Hara]

Blues must turn 'defence into attack'

Simplistic.

There are other underlying problems that must be adressed.

 

[juddyblu]

Michael Jamison most likely, won't be playing.

 

[judd5]

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22 goals 15 goals

how close would you guys think i am............ 45-50 point margin
i think that would be about the expected margin, and would you guys take that or would the majority be dissapointed.

You could never be comploetely satisfied with a loss, but that would probably be an expected result.

 

[carlton 4ever]

kosi...........3 fev..........3
reiwoldt......4 fish.........3
gherig........5 edwards....2
milne..........2 betts.......2
midfeid........8 midfeild......5
--------- -------------
22 goals 15 goals

how close would you guys think i am............ 45-50 point margin
i think that would be about the expected margin, and would you guys take that or would the majority be dissapointed.

pity saints mid field dont kick goals

 

[THE_GUN]

just off the topic guys & it is a serious question (meaning i,m not sh!t stirring )

if carlton in hindsight had selected
luenberger,cotchin,masten,selwood (2008 version) & already had murphy,kennedy.

combined with the other young players on carltons list.
would this team in say 2-3 years would have been better than the team carlton will have.

would be intrested in your opinions.

 

[HBF]

gherig........5 edwards....2

Gee, i;d be surprised if Gehrig kicks 5 tomorrow night. Would have to underdone.

 

[iRemember87]

just off the topic guys & it is a serious question (meaning i,m not sh!t stirring )

if carlton in hindsight had selected
luenberger,cotchin,masten,selwood (2008 version) & already had murphy,kennedy.

combined with the other young players on carltons list.
would this team in say 2-3 years would have been better than the team carlton will have.

would be intrested in your opinions.

Simple answer - NO

 

[Alpha1]

lol turn what defense into attack? a bit hard to do that when your giving away cheaps goals and getting smashed allover the ground lol.

 

[thylacine60]

lol turn what defense into attack? a bit hard to do that when your giving away cheaps goals and getting smashed allover the ground lol.

Come on, sniper. There has to be something we're doing right. I know it's hard but you can tell me.

 

[Alpha1]

Come on, sniper. There has to be something we're doing right. I know it's hard but you can tell me.

Sniper? hmmm well lets see what are we doing right? Yes we are blodding some kids and I agree they will take time to mature etc, etc but at the same time lets just admit at the moment we wont be moving too far of the bottom of the ladder. Instead of making excuses for some of the crap we get served up week in week out lets just admit some of the guys playing at the moment should be in that team. We have got used to losing these last 6 horrible years and at the moment we seem to be stuck in a loop, making the same shit house mistakes year in year out. It's definitely a great sign that Judd wanted to come to Carlton and in that respect things are looking good, but I must admit I am starting to loose patience with this lot.

 

[wce4premiership]

Easier said then done.

It will require great work from the mids because your defence really isn't that good. They'll be stretched.