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Although no-one can doubt his courage and defensive work I think Parkin summed it up well last night when he said that Adelaide still needs a quality small forward, because Bode does not have the necessary pace to break away from packs and make a nuisance of himself on a night which should have suited players like himself.

I know people will say that I am knocking the little fella, but you have to be able to do more than tackle and put pressure on the opposition. If you are a forward you must also hurt them on the scoreboard. Bode has not been able to do ths since he copped that knock on the neck. I think he needs to imrove quickly or face a stretch down at the BAY.

I stated in an earlier point that the wet weather often shows up those people with good skills. Contrast the differnce between Acker and Bode TONIGHT.

ATM I caanot see a ready made replacement, but Vince should be given another crack in this role toe see what he can bring to the table. I do think he has some special qualities, and the skills to play this role.

Needles, Porplycia could also come under consideration, but it looks like he may be injured. Douglas could have also filled that role but he is injured as well.
 
Agree, he is as tough as anything but he needs to be kicking goals. 4 goals in his last 6 games just isn't really good enough. Do love the forward line pressure but needs to follow up with more. His best chance for a goal last night was from a set shot which he marked on the lead, on a night where the ball was on the ground every 2 seconds he should have been swooping on many scraps but instead Brisbane just ended up with it.
 
I'd keep him in.

His forward line pressure is the best in the team. I'm sure Craigy would be telling him if he can create 2-3 goals a game by a turnover, tackle or just keeping the ball in the area then he has done his job. If he kicks a couple on top of that then he has been one of our most important players.

If Bode gets dropped we will see a change in the ease at which the opposition brings the ball out of our forward line. How many times did Brisbane look like they had no idea coming out of D50 last night? Whilst this is not all due to Bode, he is the best at it in our side.
 
bigman said:
Although no-one can doubt his courage and defensive work I think Parkin summed it up well last night when he said that Adelaide still needs a quality small forward, because Bode does not have the necessary pace to break away from packs and make a nuisance of himself on a night which should have suited players like himself.

I know people will say that I am knocking the little fella, but you have to be able to do more than tackle and put pressure on the opposition. If you are a forward you must also hurt them on the scoreboard. Bode has not been able to do ths since he copped that knock on the neck. I think he needs to imrove quickly or face a stretch down at the BAY.

I stated in an earlier point that the wet weather often shows up those people with good skills. Contrast the differnce between Acker and Bode TONIGHT.

ATM I caanot see a ready made replacement, but Vince should be given another crack in this role toe see what he can bring to the table. I do think he has some special qualities, and the skills to play this role.

Needles, Porplycia could also come under consideration, but it looks like he may be injured. Douglas could have also filled that role but he is injured as well.

As much as he made me eat humble pie early this season the facts are the facts :thumbsu:
 

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Yes I agree that we do need a small crumbing forward. Bode is good great pressure and good trier but He just doesn't have enoguh pace. I read somewhere that he had the most tackles inside 50 in the AFL which shows how much pressure he puts on defenders:thumbsu:
 
snakebite01 said:
I'd keep him in.

His forward line pressure is the best in the team. I'm sure Craigy would be telling him if he can create 2-3 goals a game by a turnover, tackle or just keeping the ball in the area then he has done his job. If he kicks a couple on top of that then he has been one of our most important players.

If Bode gets dropped we will see a change in the ease at which the opposition brings the ball out of our forward line. How many times did Brisbane look like they had no idea coming out of D50 last night? Whilst this is not all due to Bode, he is the best at it in our side.

A much fairer analysis of Bodey's true worth to the team. It's not just about disposals with Bode.

Parkin made his observations on one game which is barely relevant to a man's overall performance for the year.

At this stage we have nobody better than Bode for that role.
 
macca23 said:
A much fairer analysis of Bodey's true worth to the team. It's not just about disposals with Bode.

Parkin made his observations on one game which is barely relevant to a man's overall performance for the year.

At this stage we have nobody better than Bode for that role.
No he didn't...look at the replay...Parkin was giving his assessment of Bode and what the team needed to improve...not his view on last nights effort
 
Wayne's-World said:
No he didn't...look at the replay...Parkin was giving his assessment of Bode and what the team needed to improve...not his view on last nights effort

We'll never know the correct answer to this one, but I heard the same comments as you, and as Parkin was a commentator at that game, any talk of improvement needed IMO was also based on what he saw at that game.

So yes, I think he did!! ;) :p

Now, as you know all the answers WW, I'm sure you'll tell me the name of that person on our squad who next week is going to play that role that Bode is at present, but better of course.

And that person is ........ *drum roll please maestro* .......... :)
 
macca23 said:
We'll never know the correct answer to this one, but I heard the same comments as you, and as Parkin was a commentator at that game, any talk of improvement needed IMO was also based on what he saw at that game.

So yes, I think he did!! ;) :p

Now, as you know all the answers WW, I'm sure you'll tell me the name of that person on our squad who next week is going to play that role that Bode is at present, but better of course.

And that person is ........ *drum roll please maestro* .......... :)

Thumbs up for macc23
 
macca23 said:
We'll never know the correct answer to this one, but I heard the same comments as you, and as Parkin was a commentator at that game, any talk of improvement needed IMO was also based on what he saw at that game.

So yes, I think he did!! ;) :p

Now, as you know all the answers WW, I'm sure you'll tell me the name of that person on our squad who next week is going to play that role that Bode is at present, but better of course.

And that person is ........ *drum roll please maestro* .......... :)

Macca 23 a touch harsh on WW.

The key question is will he be part of a team that is capable of winning a GF.

I have my doubts like WW and David Parkin. If he is kicking goals or giving goal assists on a regular basis as he was doing before he got injured, you would probably not get an argument from a number of us on the board, but his form since the injury has been below par.

No-one doubts his fighting spirit, his courage and his tenacity, but he is a forward and he must have an offensive element to his game as well as a defensive side.

ATM his offensive game is not up to standard.

In my opinion a better option for the medium and long term is the Vince. He has that special factor we need in our side. He has the potenatial to kick the miraculous goal and can do things that turn a game.If Bode's form does not improve I would give Vince another game or two, or use Needles.
 
macca23 said:
Now, as you know all the answers WW, I'm sure you'll tell me the name of that person on our squad who next week is going to play that role that Bode is at present, but better of course.
No-one :D

But I'll say what Parkin did and that is as part of our future we need a "speedy" crumbing forward (which may I add we all agreed on PS)

Vince and Douglas would be my choices....but one's injured and the other (Vince) who Iam a HUGE wrap for isn't ready in terms of speed or build.

Skippy is a backward move so ATS stage Bode continues to get the gig ;)
 
Wayne's-World said:
No-one :D

But I'll say what Parkin did and that is as part of our future we need a "speedy" crumbing forward (which may I add we all agreed on PS)

Vince and Douglas would be my choices....but one's injured and the other (Vince) who Iam a HUGE wrap for isn't ready in terms of speed or build.

Skippy is a backward move so ATS stage Bode continues to get the gig ;)

Cannot disagree with most of this in the short term WW. But if his offensive form does not improve soon we have to look at all options - Skippy included if his form in the SANFL demands it. He had made the BP list each week for WWT.

Contrary to Macca 23 comments however Vince's form in the SANFL has been very good except for this week.

Another question WW - can we win the Granny with Biglands, Stevo and Bode in the side. This week will give us a good test under fierce pressure. the Saints are in good form and will give us a major test.
 

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bigman said:
Another question WW - can we win the Granny with Biglands, Stevo and Bode in the side. This week will give us a good test under fierce pressure. the Saints are in good form and will give us a major test.
There are some good and bad points about our team at the moment:

Bad:
1. We're regularly losing ruck taps. - Biglands IMO has lost a bit of spring and Clarke well age is catching up (the archilles does not help your leap).

2. We're regularly losing clearances - having Roo & macca out of the centre square hasn't helped and we are grooming a new midfield group BUT against the better sides centre sq clearance and around the ground clearances are CRITICAL to winning a GF.

3. We are getting more injuries and the problem is they are long-term injuries that impact on the fitness of those injured (leg/back) Their ability to come back and be fit enough for a tough finals series???

4. The opportunity for our young players to get gametime is there NOW...but their all bloody injured:(

The Good:

Our injuries are not to our star players and key backbone group which is allowing us to continue to play winning footy....but the finals requires fit player depth.


To answer your question Bode will be better on firm grounds and yes we can win the GF with Bode and Biglands but I would seriously doubt Stevens ability to be there on the last day.
 
I reckon Bode is being played out of position. He made his name as an in and under midfielder rather than a crumbing forward, and as WW pointed out we're losing the clearances.
I'd put him back in his original role to try to improve this area and find another crumber who'd be much more suited to the role. As to who, well Macca or Johncock would both be fine but are doing too valuable a job as running backs so come in Bernie Vince.
 
CrowMagnum said:
I reckon Bode is being played out of position. He made his name as an in and under midfielder rather than a crumbing forward, and as WW pointed out we're losing the clearances.
I'd put him back in his original role to try to improve this area and find another crumber who'd be much more suited to the role. As to who, well Macca or Johncock would both be fine but are doing too valuable a job as running backs so come in Bernie Vince.
For todays game Bode simply doesn't have the pace...his opposing man would cut us to ribbons.

Otherwise Craig would have already had him in the centre for periods of time.
 
Granted but most inside midfielders aren't that pacy eg Dal Santo and if you can get the ball out of the pack first touch and running your way, which isn't happening as much as we'd like lately, then Bode's opponent becomes irrelevant. As they say, it's all about the clearances.
 
Wayne's-World said:
No-one :D

But I'll say what Parkin did and that is as part of our future we need a "speedy" crumbing forward (which may I add we all agreed on PS)

Vince and Douglas would be my choices....but one's injured and the other (Vince) who Iam a HUGE wrap for isn't ready in terms of speed or build.

Skippy is a backward move so ATS stage Bode continues to get the gig ;)

I'll buy this summary WW. :)

Bode is the best option we have for the forward crumbing role this year because of his defensive pressure along with some limited offensive work as well.

Next year Douglas will be the man to take that role off of him IMO with Vince putting his hand up as well. Porplyzia is another serious option who must be considered.

But that's next year.

For 2005/2006 Bodey is our man in this role, and we should back him to the hilt. :thumbsu:
 

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