Brad Symes.....

[tcinadelaide]

With the depth of junior on ball talent Port has on it's list there seems no room for this lad.Would the AFC be interested?

Looking at mondays paper in the section covering "fringe"players in SANFL teams i was blown away by the amount of stats Ports youngsters keep racking up ,players like ,Symes,Logan,Thompson and one or two others whos names escape me.

Thoughts?

 

[Stiffy_18]

I am sure we would be interested. Alan Stewart is a huge fan and I am sure he would be pushing Craig to give the kid a chance.

However, I am a little bit sceptical here. Firstly Choko never lets players go if he likes them. He weeds out the players that he thinks will not be anything special and the problem for us here, he still plays hard ball and gets compensated more than fairly.

If they are willing to trade Symes, I would be sceptical but I would even be more nervous because Port Adelaide would absolutely rape us in a trade. They might be willing to trade him for the dollar to another team but they wouldn't trade him for anything less than $1.50 to us.

People here love to bag Jericho for his lack of defensive action but Symes is no better in that area. Symes gets a lot of sheap kicks in the backline, mainly as a loose man in defence but his man also hurts you so the the end result is not a great one. Symes is not getting a game for Port because he lacks defensive side to his game and as such, I am not sure how great a fir he would be with us.

If we coudl get him for cheap, then sure but Port aren't going to give him to us unless they bend us over and rip us a new one.

 

[CrowMagnum]

I am sure we would be interested. Alan Stewart is a huge fan and I am sure he would be pushing Craig to give the kid a chance.

However, I am a little bit sceptical here. Firstly Choko never lets players go if he likes them. He weeds out the players that he thinks will not be anything special and the problem for us here, he still plays hard ball and gets compensated more than fairly.

If they are willing to trade Symes, I would be sceptical but I would even be more nervous because Port Adelaide would absolutely rape us in a trade. They might be willing to trade him for the dollar to another team but they wouldn't trade him for anything less than $1.50 to us.

People here love to bag Jericho for his lack of defensive action but Symes is no better in that area. Symes gets a lot of sheap kicks in the backline, mainly as a loose man in defence but his man also hurts you so the the end result is not a great one. Symes is not getting a game for Port because he lacks defensive side to his game and as such, I am not sure how great a fir he would be with us.

If we coudl get him for cheap, then sure but Port aren't going to give him to us unless they bend us over and rip us a new one.

Could see a swap here. Jericho would positively look tough at Port when you compare him him to softies like gorgeous boy Chad.

 

[fightingdreamer88]

Nope, not interested in Symes.

Also Stiffy, you depict Chocco as the ultimate AFL mastermind. I can't imagine him like that, he's a Port feral. >_>

 

[Port_shadow11]

Could see a swap here. Jericho would positively look tough at Port when you compare him him to softies like gorgeous boy Chad.

instead of jericho .. maybe something like this could happen

our first pick in the 2007 draft plus Symes for your first pick in the 2007 draft

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

Jeez when you look at the players that can't get a game at Port, there recruiting is absolutely first class. Leaves ours for dead.

 

[Markthirtytwo]

instead of jericho .. maybe something like this could happen

our first pick in the 2007 draft plus Symes for your first pick in the 2007 draft

For a power supporter to suggest such a thing makes me think NO

 

[TheFridge]

Straight swap for Maric.

Would we be short-changing you? Maybe, but that's what you expect from us anyway...

Seriously though, I can't see Port letting "2006 rising star nominee, Brad Symes" out of the stable. He is a work in progress and should have a long term future at Port...

 

[jmorg1]

Jeez when you look at the players that can't get a game at Port, there recruiting is absolutely first class. Leaves ours for dead.

They've done well in the 2006 draft. But if you have a look at who they picked up the couple of years prior, particularly in 2004:
Thomson
Willits
Ezard
Deluca
Eckermann

Nothing really too flash there, you have to admit.

 

[KUNG FU]

I very strongly expect him to be in the tri-colours next year. It'll be a nothing trade. Its only explanation for NC playing Jericho, in order to give him some semblance of trade value.

 

[Malibu#27]

They've done well in the 2006 draft. But if you have a look at who they picked up the couple of years prior, particularly in 2004:
Thomson
Willits
Ezard
Deluca
Eckermann

Nothing really too flash there, you have to admit.

Your right ... Thomson will be a goer, Willits and Deluca are still around but need to get moving, while Ezard and Eckermann are gone for various reasons.

That being said it was Alan Stewart who headed our recruiting that year.

 

[macca23]

I am sure we would be interested. Alan Stewart is a huge fan and I am sure he would be pushing Craig to give the kid a chance.

However, I am a little bit sceptical here. Firstly Choko never lets players go if he likes them. He weeds out the players that he thinks will not be anything special and the problem for us here, he still plays hard ball and gets compensated more than fairly.

If they are willing to trade Symes, I would be sceptical but I would even be more nervous because Port Adelaide would absolutely rape us in a trade. They might be willing to trade him for the dollar to another team but they wouldn't trade him for anything less than $1.50 to us.

People here love to bag Jericho for his lack of defensive action but Symes is no better in that area. Symes gets a lot of sheap kicks in the backline, mainly as a loose man in defence but his man also hurts you so the the end result is not a great one. Symes is not getting a game for Port because he lacks defensive side to his game and as such, I am not sure how great a fir he would be with us.

If we coudl get him for cheap, then sure but Port aren't going to give him to us unless they bend us over and rip us a new one.

Personally I rate Symes and would like to see him with Adelaide. Like all players he has weaknesses in his game, but I think that they are over-exaggerated and IMO he is a genuine AFL player going to waste at the moment.

The down side in my opinion is trading with Port Adelaide - they would demand far more than he's worth going by past trades.

As for the suggestion that we trade our 1st round pick for Port's 1st round pick plus Symes, why would we want to deliver Port the chance to get Ebert in the draft at our expense??

I hope we do trade for Symes - but only if the price is right.

 

[Malibu#27]

As for the suggestion that we trade our 1st round pick for Port's 1st round pick plus Symes, why would we want to deliver Port the chance to get Ebert in the draft at our expense??

One reason would be if you had your eye on a player that your club beleived would still be around at our first round pick .... hence the swapping of picks would be of no consequence to you (other than a little extra 'risk').

However I doubt that this would happen.

 

[jmorg1]

Your right ... Thomson will be a goer, Willits and Deluca are still around but need to get moving, while Ezard and Eckermann are gone for various reasons.

That being said it was Alan Stewart who headed our recruiting that year.

I think one of the problems with Adelaide and Port is that the local media pumps up everything the latter does as being fantastic while anything Adelaide do are rubbished and blown out of proportion. As such, the perceptions that the SA public have are not always aligned with reality.

 

[Crowked]

There is one absolute stead fast rule to trading IMO. Never, and I stress, NEVER trade with Port Adelaide.

On Symes. He might be a candidate for PSD if he is out of contract. Not sure about that though. Otherwise, no thanks. Being a Centrals fan, I've seen quite a bit of him. I think he's a good player, and definately has some scope to improve, but at this stage I think he's a bit Stewart Cochrane like. A good honest player, but not a star in the making, and we shouldnt pay any more than a PSD pick for him.

 

[jmorg1]

There is one absolute stead fast rule to trading IMO. Never, and I stress, NEVER trade with Port Adelaide.

... or Collingwood for that matter. You could see the result when the two went head to head. No deal = Stevens walks for nothing.

 

[2notepockets]

i believe symes re-signed for 2 years with port earlier in the year...

 

[CarnCrows]

i believe symes re-signed for 2 years with port earlier in the year...

Does'nt stop a trade does it?

Symes is not the type of player that the should be high on our agenda.

 

[High Voltage]

I couldn't imagine Brad Symes leaving Port next year.
Then again, I couldn't imagine Lonie getting a regular game this year either?

 

[blackdiamond]

Both clubs came together for a deal on Matthew Bode (no complaints I believe), I think a similar deal is in order.

 

[Asgardian]

They've done well in the 2006 draft. But if you have a look at who they picked up the couple of years prior, particularly in 2004:
Thomson
Willits
Ezard
Deluca
Eckermann

Nothing really too flash there, you have to admit.

Have to disagree regarding Thomson, I reckon he'll be a fine long term player.

Willits & Deluca do need to extract the digit though

Ezard will only ever be a good SANFL/VFL player, it's a pity coz the bloke has heart, which is more than can be said of Eckermann, which is surprising considering he's distantly related to Ivan.

 

[TheFridge]

Ezard will only ever be a good SANFL/VFL player, it's a pity coz the bloke has heart, which is more than can be said of Eckermann, which is surprising considering he's distantly related to Ivan.

Ouch! Harsh call on Eckermann, the poor kid showed too much courage and is still wandering aimlessly around Subiaco going "where am I?, where am I?"...

Agree with your call though re Thomson - will be a fine player, and Willits is a maybe (see the Fergus Watts file). DeLuca was and is a project ruck (and we know how long they can take to get up and about).

As for Ezard and Eckerman - both were latish picks (picks 34 and 51 IIRC)who showed a bit, but not enough. Not sure who we "missed" with those picks, although I think big Ivan Maric may have been in there somehwere (but we had rolled the dice on DeLuca, who was generally rated higher from junior days, I believe...

I note jmorg that you forgot to mention that young lad we rookied in 2004 who has turned out okay... What was his name, Daniel?, Danyle? - something like that...

 

[Mong]

If they are willing to trade Symes, I would be sceptical but I would even be more nervous because Port Adelaide would absolutely rape us in a trade.

I disagree. If he's traded it will be because he wants to leave due to not getting opportunity. His trade value won't be high because a) he can't get a game and b) he is a half back flanker and they don't have much trade value.

But we are in a good position. We don't need him so we can withdraw interest if the price gets too high and nothing is lost.

 

[TheFridge]

I disagree. If he's traded it will be because he wants to leave due to not getting opportunity. His trade value won't be high because a) he can't get a game and b) he is a half back flanker and they don't have much trade value.

But we are in a good position. We don't need him so we can withdraw interest if the price gets too high and nothing is lost.

Not having a crack, but if you think "We don't need him", then why even contemplate trading for him?

Personally, I don't he is going anywhere - he is getting the occasional game, is contracted and is developing nicely. Yes, there is a bit of healthy competition for running player/flanker spots in the Port side at the moment, but as his rising star nomination suggests he does have some skill and a definite ball winning ability.

The only reason I can see for Port trading a contracted player is if we were to be offered something in return that we rate to be a greater need. What we need at the moment (in my opinion) is a quality developing ruckman, a tough 24-26yo inside midfielder (who doesn't?) or a quality developing KPP forward (who doesn't?). Accordingly, the other things I can see that Adelaide have that Port would be interested in (within the bounds of reason) would be a highish pick or Ivan Maric (who seems to be settled at the Crows, and I can't see him be traded).

Hence, despite the reasonable interest, I can't see Brad Symes being traded to Adelaide.

 

[Mong]

Not having a crack, but if you think "We don't need him", then why even contemplate trading for him?

In the hope that we could get him cheaply. If not, move on.

We don't need him but he could be handy.