Player Watch Brayden Maynard

[Pistol Night]

There is no need to interview the victim. He was concussed because of the actions of Maynard. That’s it.

Elyse Gamble in the AFLW got a two week suspension when one of our girls ran into her midriff. It was unintentional but she still got penalised.

If player A makes contact with Player B and Player B is concussed, Player A is liable and gets penalised.

Maynard should have allowed the GWS guy to mark the ball. It was a glorified training run.

Don't agree with your last line, should never be conceding a contest. However attempting to spoil with a swinging arm action is just stupid. You're either going to chop the arms and give away a free or club the bloke in the head and get suspended. Straight fist to spoil the ball it its highest point near the hands would be logical way to spoil. But logic and Bruzzy sometimes dont always agree.

 

[Seedsfan]

Rubbish.
Maynard chose to use a round arm action to spoil the ball. It was careless and unnecessary.
His choice has reduced the club’s chances of winning premiership points.

The penalty is appropriate and the club’s decision to challenge pointless.

Lol that quote fits perfectly with the frame work you put up you just don’t like it

 

[jmac70]

Mac you know I thought Bruz would get two weeks straight away BUT...if the sentence highlighted above is the letter of the new law then the game as we know it is going to be "umpired" by lawyers.
(eg: can I be penalised for accidentally concussing my own player? Let alone flying for marks....its a can of worms)

The game will continue to change to reduce the risk of concussion. It’s inevitable.

 

[Seedsfan]

End of the day the club was right to appeal the decision. Stand by Maynard and stand up to the ridiculous ruling of the AFL

 

[jmac70]

Lol that quote fits perfectly with the frame work you put up you just don’t like it

What quote?

 

[jmac70]

End of the day the club was right to appeal the decision. Stand by Maynard and stand up to the ridiculous ruling of the AFL

It was thrown out in very quick time, so clearly the club was not right.

 

[Seedsfan]

What quote?

The post you quoted

 

[Seedsfan]

Where the AFL is headed

 

[Robroy22]

The game will continue to change to reduce the risk of concussion. It’s inevitable.

Then they better start thinking about rubberised grounds!

 

[JB1975]

But that is where the game is headed

Not really, mate.

I'm personally in favour of limiting the circumstances in which defenders can slyly whack their opponents from behind. Halfwitted dribblings from footy commentators --oh a bit an 'ear-tickler' there!, and 'that's alright, he's just making his opponent earn it'-- and the moronic attitudes underpinning them are a blight.

The game will continue to be tough and demanding, without allowing players to repudiate the notion that they have a duty of care to the opposition.

 

[sideswipe]

Just a question (and I was one who knew Bruz would get two weeks)... but in all this, does anybody interview the other player anymore or does it all just go on observation (umpires and video)?

I understand that a concussed player might not be the most reliable witness but in some cases (maybe even in this one) said player might admit that " I was fine until my head hit the ground "
Don't spose the AFL would like those sorts of statements being made though now would they?

They haven’t used witness statements for years - primarily because of their unreliability - but whether Lloyd was KO’d by the strike or by the hard landing caused by the strike is immaterial. Bruz caused both.


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[Kappa]

“Punched him in the head” shows how clueless you are champ

Read the last two pages to see how clueless you are, you thought he would get off ffs. He got suspended for striking someone in the head genius.

 

[Seedsfan]

Not really, mate.

I'm personally in favour of limiting the circumstances in which defenders can slyly whack their opponents from behind. Halfwitted dribblings from footy commentators --oh a bit an 'ear-tickler' there!, and 'that's alright, he's just making his opponent earn it'-- and the moronic attitudes underpinning them are a blight.

The game will continue to be tough and demanding, without allowing players to repudiate the notion that they have a duty of care to the opposition.

That’s where everyone has got it wrong your duty of care should be to protect yourself first and foremost

Now we have ****ed the game up because people put their heads out to get hit we should never have encouraged that behaviour

Look at all the you blokes that come through the draft they all put their head in harms way to try and milk a free kick same at local level. It is becoming a blight on the game

We should never have moved away from your duty of care being first and foremost to yourself

Multiple studies sight head on head trauma as the leading cause of concussion in contact sports. The more we encourage people to lead with their head as they are going for the ball as everyone else has a duty not to hit them the more likely we are to see two players run in with no awareness and clean each other up

 

[Seedsfan]

Read the last two pages to see how clueless you are, you thought he would get off ffs. He got suspended for striking someone in the head genius.

Thought he should and would are two very different things. Thought even you would understand that.

 

[JB1975]

That’s where everyone has got it wrong your duty of care should be to protect yourself first and foremost

Now we have f’ed the game up because people put their heads out to get hit we should never have encouraged that behaviour

Look at all the you blokes that come through the draft they all put their head in harms way to try and milk a free kick same at local level. It is becoming a blight on the game

We should never have moved away from your duty of care being first and foremost to yourself

Multiple studies sight head on head trauma as the leading cause of concussion in contact sports. The more we encourage people to lead with their head as they are going for the ball as everyone else has a duty not to hit them the more likely we are to see two players run in with no awareness and clean each other up

Lloyd didn't put his head in the path of Maynard's fist in order to milk a free kick. Everything you've written here is irrelevant, and mostly nonsensical.

But let rip with another laughing emoji if it makes you feel better. We'll gather all of those powerful emojis together one day, send them to the AFL and make a really powerful statement about how wrong they are. They'll be sure to heed it.

 

[Seedsfan]

Lloyd didn't put his head in the path of Maynard's fist in order to milk a free kick. Everything you've written here is irrelevant, and mostly nonsensical.

But let rip with another laughing emoji if it makes you feel better. We'll gather all of those powerful emojis together one day, send them to the AFL and make a really powerful statement about how wrong they are. They'll be sure to heed it.

Yes it isn’t relevant to this instance, but you cannot seriously deny more players put their heads in harms way now then ever before because of the shift in attitude

Even down from junior levels, you use to always be coached to meet the ball side on and take any contact on the body. Now players run head first with no regard for protecting themselves

 

[JB1975]

Yes it isn’t relevant to this instance, but you cannot seriously deny more players put their heads in harms way now then ever before because of the shift in attitude

Even down from junior levels, you use to always be coached to meet the ball side on and take any contact on the body. Now players run head first with no regard for protecting themselves

I'm not one to trust that the AFL always gets it right, in relation to the laws of the game or anything else.

Still, I'd rather look at each case on its merits rather than engage in a general protest against the direction of rules, and I just think that the punishment fits the crime in Maynard's particular case.

We must look elsewhere for drama.

 

[Seedsfan]

I'm not one to trust that the AFL always gets it right, in relation to the laws of the game or anything else.

Still, I'd rather look at each case on its merits rather than engage in a general protest against the direction of rules, and I just think that the punishment fits the crime in Maynard's particular case.

We must look elsewhere for drama.

The rule is garbage, the outcome can’t be based of how he falls. You either want to get rid of the action or not.

It’s either two weeks when ever you get someone in the head on the follow through after the spoil or it isn’t

 

[sr36]

Don't agree with your last line, should never be conceding a contest. However attempting to spoil with a swinging arm action is just stupid. You're either going to chop the arms and give away a free or club the bloke in the head and get suspended.

Maynard does the swinging arm chop when he's a tad late. It forces the ball to spill, allowing the team extra time to set the defence. I think that was the plan here. But the GWS player didn't take it high enough - allowing the ball to drop to head height. When Maynard got a look at the ball, he went it, regardless of the head.

 

[sideswipe]

The rule is garbage, the outcome can’t be based of how he falls. You either want to get rid of the action or not.

It’s either two weeks when ever you get someone in the head on the follow through after the spoil or it isn’t

Go have a lie down. There is no new rule. The “outcome” is something that has determined the penalty in tort and criminal law since the 19th century.

These aren’t the drones you are looking for.


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[Horaceg]

I’m glad they challenged this, pretty sure he won’t get off but I am of the belief there was insufficient force and the awkward nature of the fall would most likely happened if there was no head contact anyway.

 

[Seedsfan]

Go have a lie down. There is no new rule. The “outcome” is something that has determined the penalty in tort and criminal law since the 19th century.

These aren’t the drones you are looking for.


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Lol you have NFI champ

 

[35Daicos]

I’m glad they challenged this, pretty sure he won’t get off but I am of the belief there was insufficient force and the awkward nature of the fall would most likely happened if there was no head contact anyway.

It's already been sorted out! The Tribunal upheld the ban and he misses the first two games of the season.

 

[Chief Ten Beers]

I think everyone can agree that we need to reduce the amount of concussions in our game. If some of the “toughness” has to go for that, then so be it.

No spoils above head height, no bumps, no packs or pack marks, no running back under the flight of the ball, or ruck contests or tackles, because all these scenarios could potentially cause concussion....

I think we should also introduce pads and helmets too...

Where's the line Kappa?

 

[JB1975]

I think we should also introduce pads and helmets too...

Where's the line Kappa?

I'd like to see banners banned. Those things are a f****** menace. Draw the line there, please.