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At this stage Stiffy I'd suggest that only you and I have voted.

It's 2-0 in favour of Burton playing at FF. :D

Reason: Will kick 50+ goals from FF and overall the balance of the side is stonger.
 
Originally posted by macca23
At this stage Stiffy I'd suggest that only you and I have voted.

It's 2-0 in favour of Burton playing at FF. :D

Reason: Will kick 50+ goals from FF and overall the balance of the side is stonger.
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It would appear so.

As you say Burton at FF will kick 50+ goals if he can stay injury free and we have a few options to cover him on the wing. If Burton is moves to FF would that mean that Sarge will find himself at North Adelaide this year??????
 
Originally posted by Stiffy_18
It would appear so.

As you say Burton at FF will kick 50+ goals if he can stay injury free and we have a few options to cover him on the wing. If Burton is moves to FF would that mean that Sarge will find himself at North Adelaide this year??????
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Sarge is looking more likely to be there trial by trial.

He was burning the track up until the Saints game when he failed miserably with Carey at CHF. Ayres appears to be determined to play Carey there which doesn't look good for Perrie at this stage.

I'm sure Sarge will be back sooner than later
 

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Originally posted by macca23
Sarge is looking more likely to be there trial by trial.

He was burning the track up until the Saints game when he failed miserably with Carey at CHF. Ayres appears to be determined to play Carey there which doesn't look good for Perrie at this stage.

I'm sure Sarge will be back sooner than later
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I wouldn't write Perrie off yet. His trial this week at FB is as clever as Ronnie's run on the wing against the Saints.

He can take a contested overhead mark at CHF, something that Carey can't do. He has his faults but provides an honest contest. The sensible move is to put Carey in a forward pocket or FF to make room for Sarge, but by the same token Sarge must learn to play more than one position.

Burton doesn't have the size to play in a key position for anything longer than bursts - which I favour. He has amazing aerobic capacity best suited to a wing. He is also suited to a forward role as he is mobile and can take a big grab which makes it very difficult for other teams to match up on.

What a shame we don't have two of him.........

Perhaps HFF is a reasonable compromise?? They really haven't played him there much at all and it's not as if we are blessed with a plethora of dangerous goalkicking HFF's......
At least there he can use his mobility and fitness to run someone in the opposition team ragged and provide the marking option we need going forward.
 
I voted yes. Although, I don't necessarily think he should be planted at full forward, I do think he should play the majority of the season in the forward line, in various roles. Burton was brilliant at CHF in the second half of last years semi against Brisbane. He is so mobile that he gives the opposition something to think about. No traditional CHB can go with him, so it forces the opposition into a smaller running type CHB.

He brings an unpredictability to the forward line when he's there. But when he's not there we are all too predictable. And this plays right into the oppositions hands.

Get Burton to fullforward, get him to CHF, get him anywhere in the forward and let him be creative.

There are so many positives about playing Burton in the forward line an when we've got so many quality midfielders I have just never understood why we continually play Birdman in the middle or on the wing.

And I'm glad Kerley has brought this subject into the spotlight.


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I voted no,

Don't mind him playing up there when needed but i would rather have Brett playing as a floating forward/wingman because if he was our permanent FF would that not be a waste of one of his main attributes in his ability to run opponents into the ground with his endless reserves of stamina ??
 
Funny noddy, I voted yes, but have similar reasoning to you. That being, we should determine where to play him by the type of opposition and our available forward structure for a particular game.
 
I voted yes as I think he would kick in excess of 50 goals if he played FF for the season but also feel Burton could have a real impact from the wing, particularly if he plays it as an attacking wingman and floats forward at every opportunity. It's hard to match up on someone with his aerobic capacity that also plays tall.
 
He should be at full forward because he can take a contested mark and is quicker and fitter than most in the AFL

We have Doughty Riley Bode and Johncock who can play on the wing so he is not needed there

Plus if the centre square is Roo Goodwin and Stenglein we could even use McLeod on a wing to give him more freedom.
 
No way.

At 184cm, plenty of full backs will outdo him for height.

I agree with naughty monkey here. What can he offer that Welsh can't?

Burton was a relevation in the midfield last year. Arguably the best wingman in the comp.
 
Originally posted by noddy
I voted no,

Don't mind him playing up there when needed but i would rather have Brett playing as a floating forward/wingman because if he was our permanent FF would that not be a waste of one of his main attributes in his ability to run opponents into the ground with his endless reserves of stamina ??
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I voted No also for these exact reason's much better player on the wing and delivering the ball into our forwardline or more so acting as a decoy forward and floating down there from time to time during a game just to disrupte the oppositions defence, could work a minor mircle if we play burton this way;)
 

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No way in the name of god.

He is a naturally fir person, one of the fittest in the comp and runs all day and is a ball magnet. Def a winger id say, no good wasting that aerobic capacity at FF where he would be standing for half the game.
 
Originally posted by DaveW
No way.

At 184cm, plenty of full backs will outdo him for height.
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How come he didn't get out done by those FBs in 2002 when he was move to FF after Fitzy went down with a knee injury in round 8 against Roos at Manuka Oval??????

He still managed to kick 51 goals that year despite playing a third of a season as a wingman. I seem to remember him being very difficult to match up on. He took a 197 cm Dustin Fletcher to cleaners in a game against Essendon at Footy Park.
 
I voted yes.

Anyone who is named 'The Birdman' for his flying abilities (most Modra-like jumper you've had since the great man), and who can take a grab like he can, should be good at FF. Is his kicking up to par though?
 
Originally posted by DaveW
I agree with naughty monkey here. What can he offer that Welsh can't?
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Not much. But surely 2 players of that calibre are better than 1. Welsh can't win every game for us by himself. How about we give him some help.

Burton was a relevation in the midfield last year. Arguably the best wingman in the comp. [/B]
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Our midfield has plenty of options. Over the last two years we have consistently produced more forward 50 entries than just about every other team. It's when we get it in there that we fall down. And lets face it, Burton the midfielder does not exactly increase the quality of passing or decision making into the forward zone.

The forward line needs Burton more than the midfield does. So what if we are wasting his aerobic talents up forward? His marking ability is wasted when he's in the midfield. And what if he has good accounting skills? Should we move him off the field and into the front office to make sure those skills aren't wasted too? ;)

We should play him where he is most needed and at the moment that is clearly up forward.


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Originally posted by Stiffy_18
How come he didn't get out done by those FBs in 2002 when he was move to FF after Fitzy went down with a knee injury in round 8 against Roos at Manuka Oval??????

He still managed to kick 51 goals that year despite playing a third of a season as a wingman. I seem to remember him being very difficult to match up on. He took a 197 cm Dustin Fletcher to cleaners in a game against Essendon at Footy Park.
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And didn't Welsh get 7 against the bombers last year? From memory he had about 4 opponents that night, including a very frustrated Fletcher.

There is no reason that Welsh won't get 50 providing he stays sound, which I think he will.

I think people get carried away with Burton's marking ability. When was the last time he actually hung onto a speccie?

Burton is better value running himself sick all over the ground. For that reason alone he should play in the midfield. Very hard to match up on when he covers the territory he does.
 
Originally posted by ****
Not much. But surely 2 players of that calibre are better than 1. Welsh can't win every game for us by himself. How about we give him some help.
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Don't agree. Anything Burton does is at Welsh's expense.

Better off with another good quality crumber, imo. A smokey maybe a Ladhams?
 

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Originally posted by tinman
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Perhaps HFF is a reasonable compromise?? They really haven't played him there much at all and it's not as if we are blessed with a plethora of dangerous goalkicking HFF's......
At least there he can use his mobility and fitness to run someone in the opposition team ragged and provide the marking option we need going forward.
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don't think he is a good enough kick on the run for a flanker is he?
 
Originally posted by naughty monkey
I think people get carried away with Burton's marking ability. When was the last time he actually hung onto a speccie?
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It's not his speccies that I'm getting carried away by. It's his ability to find the ball in the forward line. And his ability to contest the mark and if he doesn't hang on to it be the first to recover. He can play tall enough to create opportunities at CHF. He runs his opponents all over the place. He goes with any player that attempts to run off. I keep going back to the semi against Brisbane last year but that's because it was just about his only time up forward all year and when he went there he virtually single handedly dragged us back into the game. Our predictable forward line all of a sudden came alive and Brisbane had all sorts of troubles containing the Birdman. That was from CHF.

I'm not suggesting playing him at CHF all the time. Or in any one position all the time. He just needs to spend significant time in the forward line for us to be at our best.


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Originally posted by noddy
I voted no,

Don't mind him playing up there when needed but i would rather have Brett playing as a floating forward/wingman because if he was our permanent FF would that not be a waste of one of his main attributes in his ability to run opponents into the ground with his endless reserves of stamina ??
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Ditto.
I voted no because as good as he pinch hits at FF at times I just think we need him elsewhere where he can use his flair to better advantage for the side.
 
Originally posted by ****
It's not his speccies that I'm getting carried away by. It's his ability to find the ball in the forward line. And his ability to contest the mark and if he doesn't hang on to it be the first to recover. He can play tall enough to create opportunities at CHF. He runs his opponents all over the place. He goes with any player that attempts to run off. I keep going back to the semi against Brisbane last year but that's because it was just about his only time up forward all year and when he went there he virtually single handedly dragged us back into the game. Our predictable forward line all of a sudden came alive and Brisbane had all sorts of troubles containing the Birdman. That was from CHF.

I'm not suggesting playing him at CHF all the time. Or in any one position all the time. He just needs to spend significant time in the forward line for us to be at our best.


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What he said.

Even if Burton doesn't mark it he will be the first one to recover. Our forward line is as predictable as they come and playing Burton there would give us an edge that would make us dangerous.

Half the time Burton himself doesn't know what he will do next. What are the chances of opposition knowing what he is up to????? NONE
 

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