Brett Peake

[SaintsSeptember]

Wasn't it Peake that charged down the wing into the fifty, then popped it out on the full?

 

[Plugger35]

Wasn't it Peake that charged down the wing into the fifty, then popped it out on the full?

I don't remember him kicking it out on the full, I know he got pinged for holding the ball/incorrect disposal a couple of times.

As I've said before I don't think Peake's kicking is as bad as some people make out, it's more his decision making under pressure that can let him down, similar to Raph Clarke. However like Raph, I think Peake has the ability to be a very good footballer if he can just get the mental/attitude side of his game sorted out.

 

[the emergency]

I'd rather see Armitage running around on the park than Peake

 

[Squizz]

Wasn't it Peake that charged down the wing into the fifty, then popped it out on the full?

Pretty sure Gilbo put one into the fifth row coming out of defence.

 

[Look2Me4Guidance]

Wasn't it Peake that charged down the wing into the fifty, then popped it out on the full?

S Milne engaged in this.

 

[sainter]

He was amongst the best players in the intra-club and I thought he was reasonable the other night.

We do play our footy quite differently to the Dockers and I'd like to think that Silvagni would have already gone through the video of that effort against Swan in the final quarter with him.

I'm not quite sure why we have to write somebody off before having a good look at them.

We've already been told his multitude of weaknesses by the Freo supporters in November and the last few days.

How about we just give him a chance? Ross hasn't proven to be that bad a judge to this point in time.

BTW, why are some people even bothering to compare him with Armitage when they aren't competing for the same spot?

 

[Plugger35]

I think some of the Freo supporters are exaggerating Peake's weaknesses, as supporters tend to do with a player that leaves their club. The Bulldogs supporters did the same thing with Ray when we drafted him and he was great last year. I'm not saying Peake doesn't have faults but they aren't as bad as some people have made out.

Living in WA I've seen a fair bit of him playing for Freo and he really impressed me when he debuted around 5 years ago. His career has stagnated the last couple of years but if he can return to that form he showed early on then he could be a very handy addition to our side.

 

[Signd Sealed Saint]

I'd much rather see the youngsters get a run than this guy. Armitage, Steven and Smith's left foot was very impressive too. He reminds me of Nick Suban from Freo.

Hopefully for the club's future Peake is just going to be a depth player.

 

[Plugger35]

I think Peake would have been more of a depth player if Lovett was still at the club. With Lovett gone I think he'll get more opportunities. After all both Lovett and Peake were recruited to add pace to our side and without Lovett around, Peake's pace suddenly becomes more important.

I don't see him as taking a place away from Armitage, Steven or Smith as he plays a different role to those guys. Peake's more of an outside finisher type of player rather than an inside, engine room type player like those other guys are.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

I think Peake would have been more of a depth player if Lovett was still at the club. With Lovett gone I think he'll get more opportunities. After all both Lovett and Peake were recruited to add pace to our side and without Lovett around, Peake's pace suddenly becomes more important.

I don't see him as taking a place away from Armitage, Steven or Smith as he plays a different role to those guys. Peake's more of an outside finisher type of player rather than an inside, engine room type player like those other guys are.

So you think his football ability may have peaked . ( Damn its only thursday and I havent even started drinking yet ).

So if we look at the GF squad. We have Armitage ( Presumably ) in for Ball.
Who do we have out to give Peake a spot.
I guess options are : Ray, Raph ( Goddard to play back ), Dempster ( Goddard to play forward ). or similar.

 

[Plugger35]

Yeah I guess Peake would be competing more with the likes of Ray, Dempster, Raph for that versatile type role.

Could also be a horses for courses type thing with some of those players, ie. Peake might be brought in when we play a pacy side like the Bulldogs or Essendon, whilst Dempster may be included if we need an extra shut down defensive type player etc.

 

[Squizz]

Could also be a horses for courses type thing with some of those players, ie. Peake might be brought in when we play a pacy side like the Bulldogs or Essendon, whilst Dempster may be included if we need an extra shut down defensive type player etc.

Under-rating Dempster's pace a bit there Plugger! Remains one of the quickest on the list. Don't write him off based on '09 form, noting that his second game back in the VFL (after the knee reco) was on the 21st June.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

So if we wanted "pace" who are our slow players?
I think one of them is gone.

 

[Plugger35]

Under-rating Dempster's pace a bit there Plugger! Remains one of the quickest on the list. Don't write him off based on '09 form, noting that his second game back in the VFL (after the knee reco) was on the 21st June.

Yeah well I guess Dempster isn't really noted as a quick player, well not like Lovett or Peake are. Anyway I certainly wasn't writing him off, he struggled last year which was understandable coming off a serious knee injury but if he can get back to the form he showed in '08 he could be a valuable utility player for us.

 

[dan0z]

So if we wanted "pace" who are our slow players?
I think one of them is gone.

ball eddy clarke baker

 

[SaintsSeptember]

ball eddy clarke baker

I can live with a team without Eddy and Clarke.
Baker only has to be as quick as the guy he is running with.

I'm not sure how fast Lenny is, and guess what, I dont care.

 

[sainter]

Under-rating Dempster's pace a bit there Plugger! Remains one of the quickest on the list. Don't write him off based on '09 form, noting that his second game back in the VFL (after the knee reco) was on the 21st June.

Dempster might have pace but he's never really been the type to run and carry the footy and it's probably one of the few areas that the squad is lacking.

I'm sure that's one of the major reasons why we went after Lovett and Peake.

I don't think he's been as poor as a few people have suggested but I agree that the jury's still out. He's clearly in Lyon's plans so I think he'll be given every possible chance to nail a spot.

 

[samwise]

I'd much rather Peake playing a defensive role inside 50 than Eddy or Dempster. I think he would be fine playing as a forward who presents up the ground some matches and plays a defensive role the rest. Then eventually they can train him up to rotate through the midfield or just push up further on the wing. Cant see him holding his spot for 22 games though but he should still be useful.

 

[sainter]

I'd much rather Peake playing a defensive role inside 50 than Eddy or Dempster. I think he would be fine playing as a forward who presents up the ground some matches and plays a defensive role the rest. Then eventually they can train him up to rotate through the midfield or just push up further on the wing. Cant see him holding his spot for 22 games though but he should still be useful.

It's not really an area of the game that he's known for though.

I mean we saw his effort against Dane Swan (albeit in defence rather than as a defensive forward) but the way he was turned inside out wasn't good enough.

I'm sure he'll learn from that though. Lyon wouldn't have recruited him if he didn't think he could be taught to play (dare I say it ) Saints Footy.

 

[samwise]

It's not really an area of the game that he's known for though.

I mean we saw his effort against Dane Swan (albeit in defence rather than as a defensive forward) but the way he was turned inside out wasn't good enough.

I'm sure he'll learn from that though. Lyon wouldn't have recruited him if he didn't think he could be taught to play (dare I say it ) Saints Footy.

Yeah he definitely can improve a lot but for me it's really not hard to be better than eddy. I'm pretty confident he will be useful and play a role in our season, hopefully as much as McQualter last year.

When you get turned inside out like that you definitely take it to heart. I dont think that will happen again. First few games that stuff happens.

 

[Axcellence]

To be fair, the following spots are up for grabs based on the GF team:-

1. Dempster - 3 disposals in a GF.
2. Clarke - got beaten by Byrnes at critical junctures.

Ball's spot is already sown up by Armitage.

I think Dempster can get better as he just returned from a knee injury around round 15. He had started playing attacking footy in late 2008. If he can start doing that again, and consistently, he can retain his spot. His main competition is Alistair Smith / Jack Steven as both offer more attacking options.

Clarke plays a mixed bag type of play - he can be great and terrible in the same game. The issue is of speed and awareness - his main competition is Geary and Peake. Geary still isn't filled out yet, which is a concern in my eyes. Whereas, Peake needs to adapt to saints footy, rather than playing the ringa-roses type play that fremantle does. Seriously, his play reminded me of the game when Freo played St Kilda at Etihad last year (no intensity at all). It didn't feel like a game - it felt like a training run. It wasn't the biggest win last year (St Kilda beat West Coast by more) but I felt it was the easiest. If he can adapt to it and fit in, he can get the spot purely on speed edge. Otherwise, Shane Birss v2 coming up (and version 1 was better).

 

[greenred]

Peake needs to adapt to saints footy, rather than playing the ringa-roses type play that fremantle does.

That's not Fremantle's style, that's Peake's style.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

To be fair, the following spots are up for grabs based on the GF team:-

1. Dempster - 3 disposals in a GF.
2. Clarke - got beaten by Byrnes at critical junctures.

Ball's spot is already sown up by Armitage.

I think Dempster can get better as he just returned from a knee injury around round 15. He had started playing attacking footy in late 2008. If he can start doing that again, and consistently, he can retain his spot. His main competition is Alistair Smith / Jack Steven as both offer more attacking options.

Clarke plays a mixed bag type of play - he can be great and terrible in the same game. The issue is of speed and awareness - his main competition is Geary and Peake. Geary still isn't filled out yet, which is a concern in my eyes. Whereas, Peake needs to adapt to saints footy, rather than playing the ringa-roses type play that fremantle does. Seriously, his play reminded me of the game when Freo played St Kilda at Etihad last year (no intensity at all). It didn't feel like a game - it felt like a training run. It wasn't the biggest win last year (St Kilda beat West Coast by more) but I felt it was the easiest. If he can adapt to it and fit in, he can get the spot purely on speed edge. Otherwise, Shane Birss v2 coming up (and version 1 was better).

Dempster was played seriously out of position in the GF. I would have preferred Gwilt. In fact I was pretty disapointed to see Gwilt in the backline last week, after he did such a good job playing forward last year ( yes I know it doesn't show up in the Stats ). I still have hopes for him there.
RL seems to like to keep his backline tall, and Raph still has 4cm on Peake. But then Dempster is taller again.

 

[Value Added]

The thing that appeals to me is that he has a bit of toe something we need.

 

[Axcellence]

That's not Fremantle's style, that's Peake's style.

Well, that's what that entire team played like early last year against St Kilda. Even Melbourne/West Coast tried. But that game...