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Bull Fighting

Bull Fighting is:

  • Cruel and should be banned immediately

    Votes: 25 32.5%

  • I have no opinion on it

    Votes: 7 9.1%

  • It should be allowed to continue for years to come

    Votes: 45 58.4%
  • Total voters
    77

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Originally posted by NYPomme


With respect - I'm not the one who said that my purpose in life was to 'cause as little harm to animals as possible .....'

How many people who have denounced bull-fighting wear leather shoes - have feather pillows - and like a bacon sandwich once in a while. None of which are essential for survival.
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Not me, I wear synthetic shoes, have foam pillows & hate bacon, although if people wear leather, it is what is taken off animals that have been killed for food, what they should just throw away the skin, once again though you shy away from killing an animal for food or clothes, or for nothing but entertainment.

We all evolved from neanderthals, they weren't vegans, they killed mammoths etc for food & clothing, they didn't have bull rings.
 
Originally posted by mantis


Not me, I wear synthetic shoes, have foam pillows & hate bacon, although if people wear leather, it is what is taken off animals that have been killed for food, what they should just throw away the skin, once again though you shy away from killing an animal for food or clothes, or for nothing but entertainment.

We all evolved from neanderthals, they weren't vegans, they killed mammoths etc for food & clothing, they didn't have bull rings.
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C'mon I'm not denying what Bullfighting is .... you seem to think that you can sanitise what you actively support! Namely, subjugation, enslavement, and murder of animals for man's benefit .........
I clearly have less trouble reconciling that with my conscience than you do .... DON'T HATE ME FOR IT!

Neaderthal and Homo Sapien Sapiens had a common pre-cursor!
 
Originally posted by Brett Li


wow, we're really getting somewhere here. Is Bullfighting a recent invention, or does it stem from some "ancient" mode of killing a bull before we had Abatoirs to take away this nasty trade from the public view?

second point. The meat from the Bull is used for food, the hide for the leather trade!!!!!!!!

I still cannot believe the hypocrisy on this thread, I really can't!
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True, true ......

So the choice boils down to .......

1. Letting a Bull run wild on a ranch ........ and have a quick death
2. Factory farming an animal .......then killing it
 
Originally posted by Brett Li


I still cannot believe the hypocrisy on this thread, I really can't!
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The only hypocrite is you, you like watching animals die for nothing but entertainment, where as I hate seeing animals die for any reason, yes I do eat meat, but I would not go & watch them get slaughtered for entertainment first, I know I could not eat an animal after I saw it killed.

I can't even go fishing or prawning, because I couldn't eat what ever got caught, because I condemmed that animal to death.

As I said I do eat some meat, but very little, I eat more vegetables, pastas & fruit, also did you realise that vegetables are also living things, so when you pull a potato out of the ground you are killing it, murdering vegetable killer. :mad:
 

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Originally posted by mantis


The only hypocrite is you, you like watching animals die for nothing but entertainment, where as I hate seeing animals die for any reason, yes I do eat meat, but I would not go & watch them get slaughtered for entertainment first, I know I could not eat an animal after I saw it killed.

I can't even go fishing or prawning, because I couldn't eat what ever got caught, because I condemmed that animal to death.

As I said I do eat some meat, but very little, I eat more vegetables, pastas & fruit, also did you realise that vegetables are also living things, so when you pull a potato out of the ground you are killing it, murdering vegetable killer. :mad:
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You still seem to have trouble reconciling this with your conscience. Ah well - I don't ......just being honest! :eek:

What is all this nonsense about Veggie killer? No advocate of bullfighting has ever attacked eating veggie - nor meat for that matter. I support anyone's right to eat meat (though not human)

You are the only one who is pointing the finger at people for killing bulls (which are used in the same way ie. turned into meat for sale - and leather goods - which you seem to support with action if not word)! - the only difference I can see - is that the fighting bulls has not been enslaved - and constrained by factory farming methods before it dies.

Just facing up to reality ....once again - don't hate me for it
 
HA HA now we know we have been speaking with trolls, within 3 hours, the poll has changed dramatically, someones alias' has been running amok. :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by mantis
HA HA now we know we have been speaking with trolls, within 3 hours, the poll has changed dramatically, someones alias' has been running amok. :rolleyes:
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What are you suggesting? My page tells me I have already voted.

Conspiracy? I guess not everyone's aim in life to save the Prawn :rolleyes:
 
The poll has been running for a week, yet within 1 hour your side suddenly tripled it's vote. :eek:

You rigged it with your alias'.
 

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Originally posted by mantis
The poll has been running for a week, yet within 1 hour your side suddenly tripled it's vote. :eek:

You rigged it with your alias'.
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Not me ....

People don't agree with me ... someone must be cheating...:rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by Thrawn

Hmmm... I've noticed this too mantis. In under an hour, the votes swayed into the "keep the bullfighting" favour, when beofre, it was against it. Pretty sus if you ask me!
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Just people showing their true opinions on the matter.
 
Originally posted by Slax


Just people showing their true opinions on the matter.
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No, it would be more like a "person" or a "few people". Usually 20+ in the same poll result do not happen in a timeframe of an hour. It hasn't happened that qucikly before.
 

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Originally posted by Brett Li


You hate Bullfighting AND Democracy?
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I never said I hated Bullfighting, I said it's cruel. You can only vote once in a true Democratic sense... and it's obvious this poll has multiple aliases involved. Stop putting my post out of context. This poll involves bias, and I won't participate in this discussion any longer. Why bother when you keep on changing the subject, and why bother when we won't change our opinions in this matter anyway? I thought we'd come to a settlement on this issue Brett.

It is clearly obvious that this poll is slightly rigged. I don't care if it is, but it's true. Do you want to vote Howard over and over again, just for him to win? Or do you want a better leader?

Go figure.
 
Originally posted by Brett Li


come on thrawn, I was only getting a cheap gag in. don't take life so seriously:D
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No, no... you are taking this wrong. I'm not taking this seriously, I'm just debating your points. This is a debate thread, is it not? ;)

You think this is serious? Well pal, you've seen nothing yet! :D
 

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