Society & Culture Bullying...Pre-1990 V Today

[quickstraw]

Because I don't see the validity of someone being homosexual as a taunt. Don't think anyone should be offended by it, so that doesn't bother me, just irks me that there are people that actually think it should be offensive.

Do I have to explain everything in detail?

is it the people saying it because they think it is offensive?
Or is it people saying it because they know people are offended by it?

Food for thought.

<puts pipe in mouth and puts feet up>

hmmmmmm.

 

[quickstraw]

What's with "Mr Taylor Swift"? You saying you want a piece of that? You 15 brah?

 

[TheFreshBanana]

is it the people saying it because they think it is offensive?
Or is it people saying it because they know people are offended by it?

Food for thought.

<puts pipe in mouth and puts feet up>

hmmmmmm.

So you admit to being one of the two, or both?

Either way, both irks me.

Yeah.... not as deep as you think it is.

 

[TheFreshBanana]

What's with "Mr Taylor Swift"? You saying you want a piece of that? You 15 brah?

Irrelevant. I'd still be "older" than anybody who says "brah".

 

[quickstraw]

So you admit to being one of the two, or both?

Either way, both irks me.

Yeah.... not as deep as you think it is.

What does it matter? you got your vagina in a bunch over it.

 

[quickstraw]

Irrelevant. I'd still be "older" than anybody who says "brah".

pretty sure I got you covert dawwww.

 

[quickstraw]

Right, bed time. I'm going to teabag yo Mom dawwwwg.

 

[TheFreshBanana]

What does it matter? you got your vagina in a bunch over it.

It doesn't matter. I just said this whole thing got stupider, you're the one who wanted a detailed explanation.

And I could probably say the same thing when he called you a twat.

pretty sure I got you covert dawwww.

Yeah, okay, sure lol.

 

[Stratton_Gun]

 

[Spuddage]

Bullying is rather foul. It's done only by some bored individuals who think they can get away with everything. The sooner there are laws brought in to stop this behaviour the better life will become for many people. Also people must remember it's not just kids who are bullied it's adults as well.

Good point.
We used to have an awful bully here at bigfooty, her name was Suzi, thankfully she has been permabanned for her abusive behaviour and will never return to troll and bully posters here.

 

[DrKrieger]

Am having flashbacks to bunsen burner's last few posts before he got bant. Remarkably similar theme IIRC.

 

[Plugger35]

Good point.
We used to have an awful bully here at bigfooty, her name was Suzi, thankfully she has been permabanned for her abusive behaviour and will never return to troll and bully posters here.

Sooz was a real wild and wooly (bully) that's for sure, thank god we're all safe now from her abusive bullying tactics.

 

[quickstraw]

I may have had some beers last night and I suspect bunsen burner hacked my account. Apologies to all I offended and special thanks to Bananahammock, your mom was a firecracker.

 

[Doss]

A 13 year old cousin of mine, who has a fairly bad case of Aspergers, recently was forced to leave his high school after Year 7 because, to put it simply, his school didn't want him as he was too much of a problem child.

Predictably enough with Aspergers, the main issue is that he is very easy to wind up. He is a smart kid and knows when people are trying to get a rise out of him, but he is unable to control himself and ends up lashing out at them every time.

Inevitably, he would end up suspended or otherwise in trouble for this retaliation, while the perpetrators generally got off more or less scot free.

Makes me mad thinking about it.

 

[the fly]

A 13 year old cousin of mine, who has a fairly bad case of Aspergers, recently was forced to leave his high school after Year 7 because, to put it simply, his school didn't want him as he was too much of a problem child.

Predictably enough with Aspergers, the main issue is that he is very easy to wind up. He is a smart kid and knows when people are trying to get a rise out of him, but he is unable to control himself and ends up lashing out at them every time.

Inevitably, he would end up suspended or otherwise in trouble for this retaliation, while the perpetrators generally got off more or less scot free.

Makes me mad thinking about it.

I was a bit like that in high school, but the bullies invariably did get in trouble (and occasionally suspended).

 

[Damon_3388]

I think initially though trying to ignore it would be worth a go. From what I seen at school in the 90s bullies often seemed to thrive on producing a reaction from the target and knowing that they were really getting to them only making them just go after them even more..

This.

The whole point is to get a reaction. It's hard for kids though to have the composure and maturity to either not respond in a cold, "I don't give a shit" way, or stay "above it" by sniping back verbally in an aloof, superior manner.

You realise once you grow up though that the stuff that bullies prey on really doesn't matter in the real world, but as a kid, it's easy to get hung up on things though.

The physical reaction is just rock ape stuff, and I'm disappointed that there are parents out there wholehearted endorsing/recommending that.

 

[phantom13]

The physical reaction is just rock ape stuff, and I'm disappointed that there are parents out there wholehearted endorsing/recommending that.

I agree with the rest of your post but what if the bullying is physical? All the pithy comebacks in the world dont make you feel better when your taking jabs to the face.

 

[quickstraw]

This.

The whole point is to get a reaction. It's hard for kids though to have the composure and maturity to either not respond in a cold, "I don't give a shit" way, or stay "above it" by sniping back verbally in an aloof, superior manner.

You realise once you grow up though that the stuff that bullies prey on really doesn't matter in the real world, but as a kid, it's easy to get hung up on things though.

The physical reaction is just rock ape stuff, and I'm disappointed that there are parents out there wholehearted endorsing/recommending that.

Your whole post falls over because your first sentence is incorrect. They don't do it to get a reaction, they do it because they need to dominate someone and choose submissive people as their victims (as in people who don't fight back).

If you're unsure, google it.

 

[Damon_3388]

I agree with the rest of your post but what if the bullying is physical? All the pithy comebacks in the world dont make you feel better when your taking jabs to the face.

In my experience, the majority of bullying is verbal, so in those situations, hitting someone isn't necessary. Even if they do get physical, no need to beat on someone IMO, but simply do enough to protect yourself and subdue the threat.

Your whole post falls over because your first sentence is incorrect. They don't do it to get a reaction, they do it because they need to dominate someone and choose submissive people as their victims (as in people who don't fight back).

If you're unsure, google it.

Yeah, they want to get a negative reaction from you, to show that what they're doing is working.

I don't need to "Google it". I've been the victim enough times to know exactly how it works.

 

[phantom13]

In my experience, the majority of bullying is verbal, so in those situations, hitting someone isn't necessary. Even if they do get physical, no need to beat on someone IMO, but simply do enough to protect yourself and subdue the threat.

Look ive never been bullied so i cant really speak from an expert point of view but it can be pretty difficult to stay in control when someone is wailing on you. Enough to subdue someone is a difficult thing to measure.

 

[Damon_3388]

Look ive never been bullied so i cant really speak from an expert point of view but it can be pretty difficult to stay in control when someone is wailing on you. Enough to subdue someone is a difficult thing to measure.

Well yeah, often kids/teens don't have the composure or restraint to stay in control enough, that's why I'm saying that encouraging them to combat bullying by literally hitting back isn't the right thing to do.

 

[Hot Pocket]

Fighting a bully (a real one, who punches people and uses violence) is almost always the worst option you can take. People don't become violent children for no reason, its usually cause they're exposed to violence at home themselves, and practice makes perfect. And quite often, violent people are popular - so good luck getting people to help you beat up a bully.

Best bet is to dob them in every time, hoping it gets back to their abusive family and they get flogged in return. They'll stop pretty quickly then.

 

[Hot Pocket]

Sounds like you're sort of saying they should accept their place at the bottom of the food chain.

As much as we'd all like to think peers are going to stop it and teachers and people in power will stop it, from the victims perspective they can stop it if they stand up. Not saying it's an easy feat, but bullies have little interest in picking on people who stand up and fight back.

All the biggest bullies I knew from high school were excellent fighters (for the time). Fighting back is so dumb, especially for a smaller person.

If you absolutely have to get violent, get them to provoke you sufficiently, pull the blade out and kill them. If you're a minor you won't be going to jail for long anyway.

 

[Hot Pocket]

The problem is the bullying hasn't changed, but if the kid being bullied quite rightly turns and beats the snot out of the fully-deserving bully it's that kid who gets into trouble/suspended/counselled/etc etc.

In our day, you got bullied to a point, then you belted the sweet shit out of them and all was good. Not any more.

Well pigs to that. Much to my wife's disgust, I encourage my daughter EVERY DAMN DAY to plaster the nose of the venomous bitch classmate who decided to pick her for no reason at the start of the year. She's close...... damn close to finally stepping up I reckon.

How are you going to feel when it turns out the 'bully' is some Tongan girl from a violent family who has stayed down two years in school already? I bet your daughter will think it was awesome advice.

 

[JD-Roo]

How are you going to feel when it turns out the 'bully' is some Tongan girl from a violent family who has stayed down two years in school already? I bet your daughter will think it was awesome advice.

Nice try, but totally wrong. The girl in question is a snooty little bitch who's Dad happens to be a Principal at another school, and so the teachers think the sun shines out of her arse. This is why she thinks she can (and so far does) get away with it.
She crossed another kid not realising there was a teacher present, just before the end if the school year. After a couple of phone calls from him it looks like there's a couple of teachers batting in iur daughter's corner for next year. A welcome Christmas present!