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  1. Matchu

    Matchu Norm Smith Medallist

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    This thread is intended to discuss, speculate and inform posters on Cairns' efforts to establish a NEAFL team and, perhaps one day, an AFL team. fumbler revealed in the Cazaly's Stadium thread that there have been whispers that AFL Cairns have removed their only tenant (Manunda Hawks) in anticipation of establishing a NEAFL team based out of Cazaly's.

    From a league point of view it makes sense as there are currently 11 teams competing and all five Queensland teams are based in the south-east. A Cairns-based team entering the NEAFL is nothing new as it was on the cards back in 2013. It's fair to assume the Suns would be in favour of establishing a Cairns-based NEAFL team as the whole north Queensland region is a part of their academy zone. Since this helps the Suns it would be fair to assume the AFL would also be in favour of it occurring.

    North Queensland is really the only major area of Australia that isn't currently competing in a competition directly below the AFL. Start a NEAFL team up north would obviously increase the standard of football in Cairns but also provide a clear pathway into the AFL for people in the north. They would have a much better chance of acquiring talent from Townsville or even Papua New Guinea than Brisbane or the Gold Coast. Similar to the way the NT Thunder have lots of talented players playing for them who are unwilling to play in other parts of the country.

    Cazaly's Stadium does not need an upgrade as it is already at the AFL level so that is a big plus for their bid to enter the league. I'm not really sure much else has to be done besides acquiring players (shouldn't be too hard) and deciding what to wear/call themselves.

    So, let's discuss!
     
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  2. 3121 premiers

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    Yes it was strange getting rid of the only local club playing permanently at Cazaly's but how strange have the people running the AFL Cairns been acting the past few years anyway.

    First off lets speculate what the team would be known as, as they are currently called the Lions with a Suns connection.

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  3. thegreig

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    Looks like a merged GC/ Brisbane logo which I'm guessing are the two most popular teams up there.

    I really hope this happens, the AFL desperately needs a major team of some sort up north, although what has happened to the Local hawks team? They haven't been giving the flick for the season have they... That can't be good for growing the game if they have
     
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    Read the local AFL Cairns thread.

    Originally the Cairns reps were the Cyclones and wore green and gold, the Cazaly's Club has one of the first guernsey's they wore. Cairns like most of Qld was a Lions area so they found it easier and cheaper to use Brisbane's identity, once the Suns came in they formed a bond but decided to keep the Lions moniker and change their identity slightly to the logo i posted.

    I'd love an AFL club up here, even if one of the current ones played four or five games here a season.
    Not sure how i'd go supporting a NEAFL side though to be honest.
     
  5. thegreig

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    Whys that? I have heard the NEAFL is having some trouble at the moment
     
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    One major stumbling block , AFL Cairns wants the team based in Cairns , Powers to be with the licence (AFLQ) want the team based in Townsville & to take in Rocky & Mackay. ( they don't have anywhere near the money required). Cairns hasn't quite enough money to go alone on the push. Source ---- last time this was raised in 2013, media etc.
     
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    Obviously that will be one of the first things to change. Does Cairns have any colours traditionally associated with the area? I know there is a Queensland Cup team there that wears blue and orange so perhaps that is an option?

    I understand this is an issue but Cairns is clearly the better suited city to host a NEAFL team. I guess they could always play a few games in Townsville but predominantly play out of Cazaly's?
     
  8. Matchu

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    Everything I have read from 2013 suggested the team was going to be based in Cairns and not once mentioned Townsville. This article in particular is interesting:

    No date set for Cairns NEAFL
    8 May 2013
    Probably the most interesting portion of that article is where the head of AFL Cairns says there will be an AFL team in North Queensland by 2025 and even suggested it could be a current team that gets relocated. So they said back then that 2015 is the realistic establishment year and they definitely have enough time from here until the start of the 2016 season to get everything together. Getting a major sponsor to cover a lot of the costs is probably the major hurdle at this point.
     
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    It's worth mentioning that in 2013 there was a game played between the North Queensland U25s team and the Queensland U18s Scorpions team. It was seen as a bit of a trial run for the North Queensland NEAFL team to see how they would manage bringing in players from long distances. The team was made up of players predominantly from Cairns and Townsville but also included players from Mackay and Rockhampton. They wore blue and yellow guernseys:

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    It's quite a mixture of Colours up here. The Taipans are Orange, the Marlins in the QBL are sky blue and orange, similar to the Pride in the Q-Cup.
    So maybe they could be a mix of Dark Green (no one else has green) Orange and blue?

    AFL Townsville Eagles colours will never be worn by a Cairns rep side, also it has NQ as the badge and Cairns is actually a part of FNQ.

    For those not aware Cairns and Townsville have a rivalry similar to that of South Tassie and North Tassie
     
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    Well it seems that orange must be involved.
     

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    Can't see a nth qld neafl team. It will cost plenty and I reckon being competitive would be tough
     
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    even though the discussion is great.

    This simply won't happen we have clubs based in Sydney & Canberra that can't compete now not saying cairns wouldn't but the AFL will continue to put money & development into these clubs..

    Look this is my opinion but also an opinion of quite a few that are "in the know with AFLQ" the Neafl has a year 2 years max left in it than we will return to AFL reserves,..

    The contract with the neafl clubs & AFL runs out end of 2016 & the major TV rights are up for tender end of 2015 & with what they are speculating this next contract will be worth billions so they will make sure clubs have the twos running around..
     
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    i don't see it happening. afl would rather have a combined team from all the areas and i think cairns would rather go it alone
     
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    So we're essentially stuck in a situation where the AFLQ wants a team in Townsville but know it won't work and AFL Cairns want a team but don't have enough money or the AFLQ support?
     
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    You hit the nail on the head
     
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    Plan being hatched for AFL shift to the Sunshine Coast
    This article basically confirms that AFL QLD has plans for Townsville and not Cairns but interestingly they want a Melbourne-based team to move to the Sunshine Coast by 2030 too. It's almost unfathomable but is it possible that in 2030 there will be AFL teams in Brisbane, Townsville, Sunshine Coast and Gold Coast? That would be an amazing development for the game in Queensland if it somehow happened.
     
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    Any updates??
     
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    Why don't they send North Melbourne up there North Qld Kangaroo's just an idea they have been everywhere else....
     
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    Grapevine talk - they want the seniors & juniors off Cazalies so Cairns can play in a state league - rather than in neafl.
     
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    All ok,

    You might be better suited putting this grapevine information on the QAFL website, as I don't think too many NEAFL clubs administrators, Coaches, players or out of town supporters would be concerned about this possibility, apart from a great weekend holiday destination after picking up 4 easy points if a Cairns based side was to play within the NEAFL Competition.
     
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    Looks as though Manunda will be back in the Cairns league in 2016 so not sure about the QAFL side?
     
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    So has there been any more information released? Any word if there will be a team for the 2016 season or are we still in limbo..
     
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