Calling All Rugby Buffs - Help Needed

[copa]

Rugby is used in both names this does not make them the same sport. If someone syas they are going to the Rugby this meabns they are going to the union.
Cope can't you see that just becuase your girlfriend tells people she is going to the Rugby when she is going to the RAiders does not make them the smae game.
If that was said anywhere in Qld or Nsw wales they would think she was going to the Brumbies. This is not attack on you or on rugby it is just how it is.
If you talk to any one who follows either code (and yes most "Rugby people" follow both in some form) rugby is union and genrally footy or league is called just that.
What they call it overseas just muddies the water as most of the countries put forward on this thread both codes are minor sports.

wtf are you on about?

Prove to me the Raiders don't play a form of rugby.

btw.... here is a link to the "rugby law book 2004" from the Rugby League International Federation website...
http://www.rlif.org/laws/rugby_laws_book_2004_.pdf

THe fijians seem to think they'll be playing in the 2008 rugby world cup
http://rugbyleaguefiji.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=33&Itemid=1



You better tell them all to change it cos Qld doesn't agree.

 

[greenhat]

The use of the word "football" for various sports doesn't seem to confuse anyone in Oz... but oh my god... if rugby league is refered to as "rugby".. it all goes pear shaped

Ever called soccer 'football' on a footy forum (AFL or League) ?
ive seen that go -a lot- more pear shaped than this thread


Also I'm a Canberran and Rugby definitely means Rugby Union here, same as QLD/NSW
Only locals I have ever heard call League 'Rugby' are immigrants from the southern/western states

Maybe your girlfriend is making a point about them being the same sport?
I'm not saying shes right or wrong, just pointing out that its not the norm in Canberra

 

[copa]

Ever called soccer 'football' on a footy forum (AFL or League) ?
ive seen that go -a lot- more pear shaped than this thread


Also I'm a Canberran and Rugby definitely means Rugby Union here, same as QLD/NSW
Only locals I have ever heard call League 'Rugby' are immigrants from the southern/western states

Maybe your girlfriend is making a point about them being the same sport?
I'm not saying shes right or wrong, just pointing out that its not the norm in Canberra

I live in Canberra... I know what people here say...

Thing is...some people on here think it's just plain wrong to refer to RL as "rugby" in any way. They really need a lesson in rugby league if that's the case.

 

[Ancient and Loyal]

Rugby is used in both names this does not make them the same sport. If someone syas they are going to the Rugby this meabns they are going to the union.

In the North of England Rugby is Rugby League. It's what I grew up with and I see NO reason to change it.

When I first lived in Sydney (A few years in the early 1990's) Rugby meant either code, and to be more specific, people would state 'Union' or 'League' to make the distinction between either code. Of course, Union was the nothing game it is steadily returning to once again at the time, and no one talked about it, so the point was usually moot and you were talking about league.

I've been informed that the ARU hijacked the term during the Super League war and the resultant chaos. They can go jump off a bridge for all I care.

 

[akazie]

In the North of England Rugby is Rugby League. It's what I grew up with and I see NO reason to change it.

When I first lived in Sydney (A few years in the early 1990's) Rugby meant either code, and to be more specific, people would state 'Union' or 'League' to make the distinction between either code. Of course, Union was the nothing game it is steadily returning to once again at the time, and no one talked about it, so the point was usually moot and you were talking about league.

I've been informed that the ARU hijacked the term during the Super League war and the resultant chaos. They can go jump off a bridge for all I care.

Hallelujah, we have a winner.

 

[peoplespoet]

Rugby and League are not the same games. The rugby thing indicates their origins are the same.
I will only comment on Qld because that is what I know about this does not mean I think that Qld is the whole world (although you ignore your own argument when talking about the ACT).
Anyway enough of this you have Jiberred me to death on this topic and must concead, from now on I will call all footy ball rugby and be done with it.

 

[copa]

When I first lived in Sydney (A few years in the early 1990's) Rugby meant either code, and to be more specific, people would state 'Union' or 'League' to make the distinction between either code.

I remember kiwis having conversations like that in the 80s on the Central Coast

 

[WesternSydney]

even now top level athletes from RU can switch to the elite level iof RL.... [/B]

With a lot of hard work and some intensive training an elite onion player can become a regular reserve grade League player.

With comparative ease a reserve grade League player can become a Wallaby.

I don't regularly term either game "Rugby" either, League is league or footy, union is onion, kick and clap or yawn-yawn.

 

[sportznut]

Rugby is used in both names this does not make them the same sport. If someone says they are going to the Rugby this means they are going to the union.
Copa can't you see that just becuase your girlfriend tells people she is going to the Rugby when she is going to the Raiders does not make them the same game.
If that was said anywhere in Qld or Nsw they would think she was going to the Brumbies. This is not attack on you or on rugby it is just how it is.
If you talk to any one who follows either code (and yes most "Rugby people" follow both in some form) rugby is union and generally footy or league is called just that.
What they call it overseas just muddies the water as most of the countries put forward on this thread both codes are minor sports.

EXACTLY!!!

 

[ParraEelsNRL]

Some of you guys have no idea, as Ancient and Loyal said, it's a new thing since the SL war.

Russ put a good post in one of the forums here a few weeks ago, it was a paragraph out of a book or newspaper where it called the sports in QLD Union, League and Rules.

Never ever was union referred too as Rugby, it was always Union.

1995, Rupert and Kerry can all rot in hell.

blame the SMH and their useless bunch of fat buggers for changing it, now they are doing the same thing with Footy, whens it going to stop.

Footy to Australia means Rugby League and Aussie Rules, are we going to let these pommy bastards who have come out here tell us what to call our sports, or are we going to start talking these names back?

And before anyone says anything about the pommy bashing, have a look at the SMH and see who controls the soccer there, it's a pommy trying to put his sport above ours, it's not on, I'll always fight for Australian values, and he and his type will not win.

I'm all for Australian Rules and Rugby League to get together and fight this.

I have nothing against Soccer, I like it, but out here, it's not footy, its Soccer.

With Union, it really Pisses me off how union went pro and the papers jumped on the bandwagon and relegated Rugby League to an off shoot of their sport, thats BS, we are big brother out here, why change something that had no problem for near on 100 years?

Didn't union use to call Rugby League, Pro Rugby?

Hypocrites.

 

[peoplespoet]

I was forced to play rugby at school and although it was a while ago I thought we called it rugby but you are right about it been called union though I think they may have been intechangable.
But you are right in Qld league has always just been footy and if it hadn't been forced down my throat at school (not a private school but I think our headmaster had dellusions of granduer)I would never have given rugby a second thought.

 

[sydney eagle]

The fans of Rugby Union like to call their game simply "rugby" , after the school at which (legend asserts) it was invented. Rugby League broke away from Rugby over the issue of players being payed (originally simply compensation for wages lost due to injuries suffered while playing the game). Many people now refer to the older, fifteen a side game as "Rugby Union" in order to differentiate it from the newer, thirteen a side game which is known as "Rugby League". In reality the terms "Union" and "League" refer to the official titles of the bodies which oversee the two codes.

 

[Ancient and Loyal]

That's a very Union view of history. the Northern Union most certainly broke away from the RFU, but it does not make Rugby Union any 'older.' If you read any articles from the early history of the split, the NRFU is given grudging respect as a custodian of Rugby, in a 'professional' form to the 'amateur' (Read: Only Gentleman can be paid because we don't want those filthy sub-human miners beating their class superiors) form played by the RFU. The take-over of Rugby in Lancashire and Yorkshire assured the Northern Union had the lions share of players and clubs throughout the early history of the split, and the WRFU and RFU employed extremely dirty tactics in the early 20th century to prevent the defection of much of Wales and the South East.

Injuries was the Australian Issue. The split had more to do with the inequity in that Men of Leisure were recieving 'special' club payments that the RFU did not technically recognise as player payments whilst the filthy sub-human miners of the North and Wales could not recieve payments for 'broken time' (i.e-The time spent travelling to and from the coal face. Orwells The Road to Wigan Pier has an excellent commentary on this particular issue). A similiar issue arose in cricket where titled men recieved special remuneration on tours whilst commoners were expected to pay thier way completely.

Rugby Fans, except from a few special areas like Cornwall, Wales, the PI's and New Zealand, are by and large class conscious twats. There are alot of exceptions, but the majority of RU fans are stuck in some version of 1895 with a thin veneer updated to the 21st centure.

 

[babyg]

Go down to your local tennis centre and start calling everyone batminton players and see where that gets you.

 

[Ancient and Loyal]

Go down to your local tennis centre and start calling everyone batminton players and see where that gets you.

The Speculated common ancestory of Tennis and Badminton was played by the Classical Greeks...the actual divergence between a sport played with a ball and a sport played with the ancestor of the shuttlecock happened early enough in history for Alexanders conquesting armies to succesfully introduce only one of those sports into Asia and the Subcontinent.

The RFU recognised RL as 'Professional Rugby' for 100 years before they dropped Shamateurism, so that kind of puts paid to that theory as well...

 

[ParraEelsNRL]

Hehehehehehe

 

[Rus13]

Ditto



& Babyg, Alexander's army trudged all the way to India in the 3rd century BC. His soldiers never wore shoes.

 

[ParraEelsNRL]

Hopefully the next time someone trudges all the way to India, they may take a sherrin.

I guess if they decide they don't like AR, they can atleast make some cute red shoes.

Either way, it'll have something to do with OZ

 

[Rus13]

I am pretty sure the Sherrin is made in India-could someone confirm?

Anyway, Alexander conquered all the known world in his time. He had victories at Gibraltar, North Africa & all the way to India. He had several towns/cities named after him & died at the age of 33.

Could you beat what he has done Parra?

 

[ParraEelsNRL]

I am pretty sure the Sherrin is made in India-could someone confirm?

Anyway, Alexander conquered all the known world in his time. He had victories at Gibraltar, North Africa & all the way to India. He had several towns/cities named after him & died at the age of 33.

Could you beat what he has done Parra?

Well I've beat him at one thing, I've outlived him

 

[Rus13]

I went to an Amart Sports' store today;saw a sherrin football-sure enough it is made in India.

In fact all the footballs are made there.