Society & Culture Can they do this?

[CrazyQ]

Went out on Friday night and decided to cruise around the city. Hit up a few places and drank ourselves silly. Got home about 7.30am and a mate wants to have a few more drinks.

To cut a long story short, we met some cool cats on the same mission as us, had a few drinks with them and finished up at 4.30pm, pretty sure my longest time drinking.

As I was waiting for a tram, blind as a mother****er, two cops walk up to me and said that I had to follow them. So I did and they threw me in their ride and drove off.

230 fine and was in the slammer for hours.

What exactly are the rules? Is it a no go to being drunk? Aren't they meant to get you home or give you the chance to get home?

Thanks.

 

[RoJo Junior]

Offences

Drunk in a public place

If the police think you are drunk in a public place they may arrest you and place you in custody. They may do this if they think it is necessary for your safety.

Drunk and disorderly in a public place

‘Disorderly’ behaviour is acting in a way that disturbs the peace or interferes with the comfort of people who may be nearby.

You can be charged if the police think your behaviour is intended to disturb, even if no one is actually disturbed by it.

On-the-spot fines

Police can issue on-the-spot fines for public drunkenness.

As a three-year trial, from 1 July 2008, police can also issue fines on-the-spot or by post to people aged over 18 for a number of common offences, including:

* indecent language
* offensive behaviour
* consuming or supplying liquor on unlicensed premises
* failure to leave licensed premises when requested.

http://www.legalaid.vic.gov.au/1799.htm

Sounds like you had a big night/day. Good form I say. I think that info is enough to answer your questions.

Wouldn't surprise me that the cops would be c****. Maybe you're just not likable

 

[MarcMaverick]

Do I need to re-emphasize on what Mark Webber's contention was: "we are in a nanny-state". With Power-hungry pigs patrolling the streets with nothing to do they punish the people- as I quote Edgar Friendly from the film Demolition Man- "like to think".
Put is this way: You did nothing wrong and yet you were still nabbed buy the pigs

I mean what is this world coming to?

 

[HarryTiger]

I'm sure behaviour comes into it too. You say "blind as a m******" so I guess you looked a mess. Though if you were homeless or indigenous you probably would have got away with it.

 

[BomberGal]

Do I need to re-emphasize on what Mark Webber's contention was: "we are in a nanny-state". With Power-hungry pigs patrolling the streets with nothing to do they punish the people- as I quote Edgar Friendly from the film Demolition Man- "like to think".
Put is this way: You did nothing wrong and yet you were still nabbed buy the pigs

I mean what is this world coming to?

Please say pig to an officer's face, you upstanding citizen, you!

BTW, he did actually do something wrong by being "blind as a mother****er" where it was against the law to be so. The law might suck, and hey I think a lot of laws need reform, but you can't go around crying pigs just because someone got pinged for breaking the law.

 

[CrazyQ]

Please say pig to an officer's face, you upstanding citizen, you!

BTW, he did actually do something wrong by being "blind as a mother****er" where it was against the law to be so. The law might suck, and hey I think a lot of laws need reform, but you can't go around crying pigs just because someone got pinged for breaking the law.

So what if you were leaving a club and you get 10 metres away from the club, I'm guessing they could arrest you. I'm pretty sure they let little things like this go however they should use common sense in some situations, like mine.

And to the poster above, no, I wasn't being a prick or causing trouble. I was simply waiting for a tram, sitting on my phone.

 

[Sigh RolleyEyes]

BTW, he did actually do something wrong by being "blind as a mother****er" where it was against the law to be so.

just because something is the law doesn't make it right. fining people for being pissed is an obviously shit application of an obviously shit law

 

[RoJo Junior]

And to the poster above, no, I wasn't being a prick or causing trouble. I was simply waiting for a tram, sitting on my phone.

Ok, well I'm sure the cops would've told you what the fine was for.

What did they say to you? You said you were pissed as (understandable on an all day/night drinking binge), and considering the time they caught you completely maggot they must've thought that it was immoral or some shit along those lines.

I highly doubt there was anyone drunk at that time of day which is what separates you from everyone else. If you were just sitting there on your phone like you say you were, how could they be aware you were drunk (unless you were on the phone calling your mates c****, which blokes do from time to time, they could've taken that as offensive behaviour)

Surely you did something, or stumbled around like crazy mofo. Also $230 is a pretty random figure for a fine.

 

[Invigoration]

4.30 in the afternoon and you are stumbling round blind as a mother****er. Do you seriously need to even ask the question?

Good to see the police are actually doing something, who wants to take their kids into the city on a Saturday afternoon and see your drunk arse stumbling around.

 

[Brad Roo]

It is illegal to be drunk outside of your own premises.

BTW, they were still pigs regardless for pinching you.

You can thank that **** Robert Doyle.

 

[kwame]

as an ex pig yes they are entitled to fine you. you were obviously heavily intoxicated.....may not have been causing trouble at the time but may have been way too drunk to be on the street. all police have different degrees of leniency.......you may have just got a couple of unforgiving officers or a guy that hasnt been in the job for long and feels the need to follow the law to the letter.

 

[WALL-e]

I pose the question, you are allowed to be drunk in an establishment or home. Then you leave to go to your home, how to you get there without entering a 'public place'.

If you're at a mates who lives close by I guess you could fence hop home, but this may upset people who don't enjoy people in their back yard.

 

[Brad Goodman]

I pose the question, you are allowed to be drunk in an establishment or home. Then you leave to go to your home, how to you get there without entering a 'public place'.

If you're at a mates who lives close by I guess you could fence hop home, but this may upset people who don't enjoy people in their back yard.

It is possible to be drunk without appearing so.

 

[WALL-e]

It is possible to be drunk without appearing so.

Yes but you'd still be breaking the law

 

[Dawson]

Do I need to re-emphasize on what Mark Webber's contention was: "we are in a nanny-state". With Power-hungry pigs patrolling the streets with nothing to do they punish the people- as I quote Edgar Friendly from the film Demolition Man- "like to think".
Put is this way: You did nothing wrong and yet you were still nabbed buy the pigs

I mean what is this world coming to?

Pretty sure the law in this regard has been around this 1958

 

[DidakDelight]

Next time dont be a tight arse and get a taxi straight home
That said, it was pretty harsh of them to lock you up.

 

[CrazyQ]

Ok, well I'm sure the cops would've told you what the fine was for.

What did they say to you? You said you were pissed as (understandable on an all day/night drinking binge), and considering the time they caught you completely maggot they must've thought that it was immoral or some shit along those lines.

I highly doubt there was anyone drunk at that time of day which is what separates you from everyone else. If you were just sitting there on your phone like you say you were, how could they be aware you were drunk (unless you were on the phone calling your mates c****, which blokes do from time to time, they could've taken that as offensive behaviour)

Surely you did something, or stumbled around like crazy mofo. Also $230 is a pretty random figure for a fine.

It was actually 234 dollars, but I couldn't be ****ed.

 

[CrazyQ]

4.30 in the afternoon and you are stumbling round blind as a mother****er. Do you seriously need to even ask the question?

Good to see the police are actually doing something, who wants to take their kids into the city on a Saturday afternoon and see your drunk arse stumbling around.

Who said I was stumbling?

I was waiting for the tram at a tram stop. Yeah, I was smashed, but shit, I was on my own and the tram was minutes away. I didn't carry on when arrested because that spells trouble.

To DidakDelight, I would have caught a taxi, but to be honest, I didnt even think about it. I actually thought I had no money left. Woke up and found a nice 20 in my back pocket.

 

[CrazyQ]

I pose the question, you are allowed to be drunk in an establishment or home. Then you leave to go to your home, how to you get there without entering a 'public place'.

If you're at a mates who lives close by I guess you could fence hop home, but this may upset people who don't enjoy people in their back yard.

That is why I thought (probably stupidly) that the cops would ask you a few questions like "How are you getting home?" "Have you finished your night out?" "How many drinks have you consumed?".

What I find funny is they walked up to me and just said "Mate, you better come with me.". I didn't ask them where because, shit, I didnt think they'd just throw you into a car and drive off.

When I realised, I said "Mate, I'm just trying to get home and I'm waiting for the tram, wouldn't that easier?". Nope. Not a word.

And to Wall-E, I seriously do wonder that.

 

[FootyJunkie]

Pretty sure the law in this regard has been around this 1958

yeah... too mand drunk and disorderly Collingwood fans in 1958 after the GF win