List Mgmt. Carlton Draft 2021

[BigBreakfast]

Wow. Some good kids still there. We are going to get a good one.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Taylor, Sonsie, Goater, Johnson, Draper.

Thats a hell of a lot of talent thats sliding, hope Austin looks at moving up to get one of them if thats how its looking to unfold tomorrow night

 

[Wickzki]

Lions, surprise so far

That pick was for sure. I believe Dees took their second guy.

 

[Jimmae]

Swans will get vanilla Johnson

WHAT IS HAPPENING TO JOHNSON? This is Dev Robertson all over

Yeap, have him top 5

Recruiters ended up right about Dev

Doesn't look like a midfielder for the next level, so you're getting a rebounding third tall, a medium defender that will rely on their attack up the field, or a very weak 3rd forward.

Well if Johnsons doing a Dev, Brisbane probably won't let him slide past them

Given that they have a system that suits Birchall, I think this is a good call. Hawks might be interested too.

 

[BigBreakfast]

Til tomorrow folks.

 

[Dysfunctional]

So a lot of sliders get through, Johnson, Butler, Howes, Motlop, Draper, Sonsie, Goater. They can't all be gone by our pick.

 

[Foucault1989]

Want Goater

 

[Wickzki]

Doesn't look like a midfielder for the next level, so you're getting a rebounding third tall, a medium defender that will rely on their attack up the field, or a very weak 3rd forward.


Given that they have a system that suits Birchall, I think this is a good call. Hawks might be interested too.

Actually agree with this. He won't get the time he needs at the AFL level. Game is just too fast for his type.

 

[Arr0w]

7th pick tomorrow night, these kids still on the board in bold and in order of how I had them ranked

Finn Callaghan
Nick Daicos
Josh Ward
Jason Horne-Francis
Matthew Johnson
Ben Hobbs
Josh Gibcus
Jye Amiss
Sam Darcy
Angus Sheldrick
Arlo Draper
Josh Goater
Neil Erasmus
Tyler Sonsie
Campbell Chesser
Josh Rachele
Josh Sinn
Jacob Van Rooyen
Rhett Bazzo
Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
Mac Andrew
Tom Brown
Mitch Knevitt
Jesse Motlop
Leek Alleer
Lachlan Rankin
Mitch Owens
Darcy Wilmot
Zac Taylor
Jack Williams

Others right on the fringe of the back of the list

Josh Fahey
Matty Roberts
Conor Macdonald
Cooper Murley
Blake Howes
Toby Conway
Brady Hough
Sam Butler

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Corey Warner
Hugh Stagg

 

[Bletch]

Johnson, Draper, Sonsier, Goater, Butler, Howes, Taylor, Motlop, MacDonald. At least 3 will be available.

 

[Wickzki]

Want Goater

The goat to to the goat club!

 

[Jeremias]

Early picks tomorrow will be very interesting.

7 picks away with some good names still on the board, we will get offers for that selection.

As things stand I would be trading down.

 

[JuddgementDay]

7th pick tomorrow night, these kids still on the board in bold and in order of how I had them ranked

Finn Callaghan
Nick Daicos
Josh Ward
Jason Horne-Francis
Matthew Johnson
Ben Hobbs
Josh Gibcus
Jye Amiss
Sam Darcy
Angus Sheldrick
Arlo Draper
Josh Goater
Neil Erasmus
Tyler Sonsie
Campbell Chesser
Josh Rachele
Josh Sinn
Jacob Van Rooyen
Rhett Bazzo
Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
Mac Andrew
Tom Brown
Mitch Knevitt
Jesse Motlop
Leek Alleer
Lachlan Rankin
Mitch Owens
Darcy Wilmot
Zac Taylor
Jack Williams

Others right on the fringe of the back of the list

Josh Fahey
Matty Roberts
Conor Macdonald
Cooper Murley
Blake Howes
Toby Conway
Brady Hough
Sam Butler
Corey Warner
Hugh Stagg

Nice list.

Six picks before our pick.
I'm thinking that Johnson, Draper, Goater and Sonsie will be gone by our pick
My wishlist then is:

1. Motlop - we need a small crafty forward
2. Bazzo - why not build up our spine this year, rather than wait for one more year?
3. And then follow your list in order of remaining players - I'm fine with that

 

[Jimmae]

Goater coming into range...

 

[Jeremias]

7th pick tomorrow night, these kids still on the board in bold and in order of how I had them ranked

Finn Callaghan
Nick Daicos
Josh Ward
Jason Horne-Francis
Matthew Johnson
Ben Hobbs
Josh Gibcus
Jye Amiss
Sam Darcy
Angus Sheldrick
Arlo Draper
Josh Goater
Neil Erasmus
Tyler Sonsie
Campbell Chesser
Josh Rachele
Josh Sinn
Jacob Van Rooyen
Rhett Bazzo
Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
Mac Andrew
Tom Brown
Mitch Knevitt
Jesse Motlop
Leek Alleer
Lachlan Rankin
Mitch Owens
Darcy Wilmot
Zac Taylor
Jack Williams

Others right on the fringe of the back of the list

Josh Fahey
Matty Roberts
Conor Macdonald
Cooper Murley
Blake Howes
Toby Conway
Brady Hough
Sam Butler
Corey Warner
Hugh Stagg

Howes still available.

 

[Bfevola]

Yey slow down. You know no matter who is there we will still select MacDonald right? It’s the Carlton way. I wish we would select the best player available rather than who we just want. As things change on draft night where people slide.

 

[Jeremias]

Yey slow down. You know no matter who is there we will still select MacDonald right? It’s the Carlton way. I wish we would select the best player available rather than who we just want. As things change on draft night where people slide.

How do you know he won't be best available at our selection?

 

[carlton4lyfe]

Anybody know how to watch the draft on fox footy without having kayo or a foxtel subscription?

 

[Bfevola]

I dont but I do know our draft focus should change now since Jones left. We need Key position players. Not a skinny mid. If there is a good enough KPP then we need to select him. So if we ear marked MacDonald and someone else that suits our needs is there then we need to make a change.

How do you know he won't be best available at our selection?

 

[swuzzlebubble]

No

7th pick tomorrow night, these kids still on the board in bold and in order of how I had them ranked

Finn Callaghan
Nick Daicos
Josh Ward
Jason Horne-Francis
Matthew Johnson
Ben Hobbs
Josh Gibcus
Jye Amiss
Sam Darcy
Angus Sheldrick
Arlo Draper
Josh Goater
Neil Erasmus
Tyler Sonsie
Campbell Chesser
Josh Rachele
Josh Sinn
Jacob Van Rooyen
Rhett Bazzo
Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
Mac Andrew
Tom Brown
Mitch Knevitt
Jesse Motlop
Leek Alleer
Lachlan Rankin
Mitch Owens
Darcy Wilmot
Zac Taylor
Jack Williams

Others right on the fringe of the back of the list

Josh Fahey
Matty Roberts
Conor Macdonald
Cooper Murley
Blake Howes
Toby Conway
Brady Hough
Sam Butler
Corey Warner
Hugh Stagg

No Judson Clark?

 

[TENACIOUS]

Hope Austin can pull something out of the bag
and trade up tomorrow night for either Johnson, Goater or Sonsie...

Much better talent than MacDonald

 

[gandaal]

Here's a little phantom made under the mistaken assumption that no trades will be made before our pick. Just bear in mind that I am almost certainly wrong.

21- Fremantle: Johnson
22- North Melbourne: Goater
23- Hawthorn: Sonsie
24- Geelong: Howes
25- Geelong: MacDonald
26- Hawthorn: Butler
27- Carlton: Taylor? Motlop? Draper? Knevitt? Bazzo? Trade?

 

[Blue__Balls]

I dont but I do know our draft focus should change now since Jones left. We need Key position players. Not a skinny mid. If there is a good enough KPP then we need to select him. So if we ear marked MacDonald and someone else that suits our needs is there then we need to make a change.

Happy to take a KPD if that happens to be the best kid still on the board, but not just because they're "good enough". Shouldn't be chasing one just because of the Jones thing, would be a knee jerk reaction and nothing more.

Drafting a KPD won't help replace Jones in 2022, it'll just mean we have another 18yo project who would struggle against a third tall forward, let alone a genuine KPF.

SSP is the avenue to add a mature tall. And then next year we can look to trade a better one in if it's still necessary.

 

[Jeremias]

I dont but I do know our draft focus should change now since Jones left. We need Key position players. Not a skinny mid. If there is a good enough KPP then we need to select him. So if we ear marked MacDonald and someone else that suits our needs is there then we need to make a change.

OK, let me get this straight.

You suggest the club must select the best available player, yet then go on to say we must select a key position player to replace Jones.

Which one is it?

Jones retiring is a blow, but no 18 year old kid we take tomorrow night is going to be able to step up and fill the void straight away. How many 18 year old key position players hold down a key defensive role in their first season?

The recruiters and list managers have been watching these kids for years. It would be complete madness to throw their work out the window weeks out from the draft.

We almost certainly will not pick a KPP tomorrow. We've pretty much said what we're looking for and I expect the club to stick to that plan.

If we're not confident we can fill the Jones void from within in 2022, look to the SSP for a mature option. And then look to attack the draft next year which at this early stage looks to be a far better draft for talls with quite a number already projected to feature heavily.

 

[Jeremias]

Here's a little phantom made under the mistaken assumption that no trades will be made before our pick. Just bear in mind that I am almost certainly wrong.

21- Fremantle: Johnson
22- North Melbourne: Goater
23- Hawthorn: Sonsie
24- Geelong: Howes
25- Geelong: MacDonald
26- Hawthorn: Butler
27- Carlton: Taylor? Motlop? Draper? Knevitt? Bazzo? Trade?

If this was to eventuate, I would be taking Knevitt. Think he'll go before our pick though.