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Carlton in the Media (articles, podcasts etc) - Part 2 (cont. in Part 3)

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Harsh on Ling.
Never has there been anyone with a greater grasp of the obvious than Cameron Ling.

If he added insight, it'd be fine. Instead, he follows up Darcy/BT with "Good call!" then inserts a platitude or an obvious thing to the audience as though it was profound.
 

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It appears some SEN presenters have an agenda against us, particularly Cornes and Whateley. Just non stop bagging of the club, yet other lowly sides StKilda, Brisbane and Gold Coast don't even get a bad mention at all and seem to be immune to criticism. Now Cornes is into our young recruits. What next? I've had a gutful of it. Feel like complaining to the radio station, but it probably won't change a thing, as that is probably want they want for their ratings.
With Hutchy in charge he’d expect nothing less from his paid “talent”.
 
I read Jake Niall's article in The Age this morning. AFL tv ratings down 12.9%, he blames the commonwealth games and the royal wedding and the third biggest factor is Carlton playing Friday nights too offten. We have had 2 games so far on Friday nights I think and that is the thirs most important factor according to him behind the fall in ratings.
He does not blame boring congested football, Ch 7's annoying commentary team, disillusionment with the decisions of the MRO but our 2 games on a Friday. Being a Carlton hater now seems like a prerequisite for getting a job in the media.
 
I read Jake Niall's article in The Age this morning. AFL tv ratings down 12.9%, he blames the commonwealth games and the royal wedding and the third biggest factor is Carlton playing Friday nights too offten. We have had 2 games so far on Friday nights I think and that is the thirs most important factor according to him behind the fall in ratings.
He does not blame boring congested football, Ch 7's annoying commentary team, disillusionment with the decisions of the MRO but our 2 games on a Friday. Being a Carlton hater now seems like a prerequisite for getting a job in the media.

The club should consider taking action against certain news outlets at this stage, we're trying to build up the membership base and the media coverage is downright libellous
 
For the most part, the media are sheep happy to trot out the accepted narrative. Carlton is sh1t, our game style is trash, they shouldn’t have to watch our rubbish, we are to blame for ratings etc - the negative commentary pervades TV, radio, print and even various social media platforms. They love to kick us when we’re down.

Like most I’m frustrated at the lack of progress but can see the bigger picture. Watch these clowns jump on when it suits their agenda. For now we have to suffer their condescending drivel.

Keep it coming, after the bye we are a chance to do some damage with a healthier list. We will be back and when we are, those who were happy to kick us will not get any mercy from anyone who loves our club. Even though they will claim they saw it coming all along.
 
I read Jake Niall's article in The Age this morning. AFL tv ratings down 12.9%, he blames the commonwealth games and the royal wedding and the third biggest factor is Carlton playing Friday nights too offten. We have had 2 games so far on Friday nights I think and that is the thirs most important factor according to him behind the fall in ratings.
He does not blame boring congested football, Ch 7's annoying commentary team, disillusionment with the decisions of the MRO but our 2 games on a Friday. Being a Carlton hater now seems like a prerequisite for getting a job in the media.
Carlton have played 3 Friday night games - losing by 21,24 & 30 points.
 
Carlton have played 3 Friday night games - losing by 21,24 & 30 points.

So, an average of 25 points and no consideration given to the depth of our injuries. OK.

I think it's more the fact that the lead-in isn't particularly enticing for neutral viewers.
It would be fair to say, that may have something to do with shallow numbers, if indeed they are short of the mark.
 
So, an average of 25 points and no consideration given to the depth of our injuries. OK.

I think it's more the fact that the lead-in isn't particularly enticing for neutral viewers.
It would be fair to say, that may have something to do with shallow numbers, if indeed they are short of the mark.
Yep. The lead in is what it is all about for the media. I mean, what a great lead in to the Dream Time match last night..
 

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For the most part, the media are sheep happy to trot out the accepted narrative. Carlton is sh1t, our game style is trash, they shouldn’t have to watch our rubbish, we are to blame for ratings etc - the negative commentary pervades TV, radio, print and even various social media platforms. They love to kick us when we’re down.

Like most I’m frustrated at the lack of progress but can see the bigger picture. Watch these clowns jump on when it suits their agenda. For now we have to suffer their condescending drivel.

Keep it coming, after the bye we are a chance to do some damage with a healthier list. We will be back and when we are, those who were happy to kick us will not get any mercy from anyone who loves our club. Even though they will claim they saw it coming all along.

Those in the media who have been to the top of the mountain and were absolute superstars as players and/or coaches including Carey, Dermot, Roosy, johno brown and others have been very supportive of where we are at, they can see the talent, they know that it’s there because they have had it or have coached it before.

It’s muppets like whateley, Robbo and shock jocks like hutchy and cornes who are looking for a headline and we are the easiest headline at the moment because for the most part everyone hates us in general and it rates!

If you want to listen to football analysis of where we are at listen to the experts who have been to the top ...not the narrative driving sycophants who where either average footballers at best now trying to make it as shock jocks (insert Cornes here) or guys like Robbo and Whateley who have made careers as leachers passing comment on something they have never done themselves and that’s to attempt to succeed at playing or coaching at this level. They are no better than supporters of opposition clubs passing comment.
 
  • I don't think the media has an agenda against us
  • We are an easy target - who's gonna argue we aren't ordinary at the moment?
  • At times they really do pump us up - Carey Friday night, Roos on Dow the Friday before, "Crazy good, Carlton" Dwayne on Cunners goal
  • It's seriously unprofessional and amateur hour to allow historic differences as a player to colour commentary
  • Surely there has to be more of a pathway to football media than having played?
  • Too many commentators are ex-players - Lane, Whately, Sheehan, Grybas, Hudson, Bennett (?) Morphett (kill me) Jacobs, Beitzel.......quality
  • Commentators like Ling have to go back to calling school and re-acquaint themselves with the concept of colour commentory
  • We will eventually become too good to ignore and positive stories will abound - the 80's were almost embarrassing - we were everywhere
  • When things return to normality - us winning, Richmond losing - fans can again go back to bagging out Caro for "digging up dirt on the club"
  • No-one expected us to be this long in the wilderness - 25 years between drinks can leave a supporter pretty thirsty - and pretty loco
  • I will leave you lot with the following graphic to hopefully give you something positive to reflect upon, on this sunny Sunday afternoon

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The Pope's verdict? "Canna draw - keepa!"
 
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It appears some SEN presenters have an agenda against us, particularly Cornes and Whateley. Just non stop bagging of the club, yet other lowly sides StKilda, Brisbane and Gold Coast don't even get a bad mention at all and seem to be immune to criticism. Now Cornes is into our young recruits. What next? I've had a gutful of it. Feel like complaining to the radio station, but it probably won't change a thing, as that is probably want they want for their ratings.

Raised it in the past. When Silvagni (pick 60 or so) and McKay (3rd year KPP) were getting bagged. While a absolute mountain of 1st and 2nd round picks at other clubs get no mention.
 
Don't get why people are so irritated at people for doing what they're told for money.

I will ask, though, is the quality of commentary actually getting worse, or is the sheer amount of football being commentated diluting the pool?
Think it just needs to be simplified. Less commentators per game. Make it less of as old boys club and we’ll see improvements.

AFL should be more worried. They’re trying to grow the game and for the life of me I can’t see how anyone could get into AFL with the quality of commentary we currently have.

I got into the NFL years ago and fairly quickly. Two man commentary teams. Analysis and play calling. Made it so easy to get into.
 
The club should consider taking action against certain news outlets at this stage, we're trying to build up the membership base and the media coverage is downright libellous

Would be amazing if the club banned all media except for Carlton official releases. But they wont
 
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