Media Carlton in the Media (articles, podcasts etc) - Part IV

[Stamos]

What they said: Fisher on the run home

Zac Fisher is up for the challenge in the last four games.

www.carltonfc.com.au

I don't think the closed caption machine is working very well

 

[RPCB]

Carlton vs Adelaide

Out: Charlie Curnow

35

Charlie Curnow

Age

28

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.3

3star

K

9.7

4star

HB

3.6

3star

M

5.3

5star

T

2.2

4star

G

1.3

5star

No current season stats available

D

10.8

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

4.4

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.8

4star

(Oops!).

 

[thylacine60]

Carlton vs Adelaide

Out: Charlie Curnow (Oops!).

Don't do that.

 

[Aphrodite]

Carlton vs Adelaide

Out: Charlie Curnow (Oops!).

 

[CJMB]

I expected a more consistent output from Cerra.

He's been a bit inconsistent, but covid & a hammy can do that to you. He's predominantly playing a bit more of an inside role than he did at Freo, so there's a reduction in marks, goals & metres gained, but that's offset by an increase in disposals, tackles, inside 50s, contested possessions & clearances. He also had that weird/bad game back from injury where they played him as a wing/hf & he didn't start in the centre square once.

Hopefully gets a good run at it for the rest of the year, probably helps too if Pitto can be getting the tap & blocking in the middle. Seemed to respond alright after the article last week, maybe we need another on him to kick him up another gear?

Stat: 2021 / 2022*
Disposals: 23.1 / 24.6
Marks: 5.2 / 3.3
Goals: 0.3 / 0.2
Tackles: 2.6 / 4.5
i50s: 5 / 5.3
CP: 8 / 9.4
DE%: 66.8% / 73.6%
Clearances: 3.6 / 4.2
Score involvements: 5.3 / 5.3
Metres gained: 407.3 / 345.1

*adjusted to remove the game where he got injured in about the first minute

 

[RPCB]

Yep. I deserve a ban for that one.

 

[FRUMPY]

He's been a bit inconsistent, but covid & a hammy can do that to you. He's predominantly playing a bit more of an inside role than he did at Freo, so there's a reduction in marks, goals & metres gained, but that's offset by an increase in disposals, tackles, inside 50s, contested possessions & clearances. He also had that weird/bad game back from injury where they played him as a wing/hf & he didn't start in the centre square once.

Hopefully gets a good run at it for the rest of the year, probably helps too if Pitto can be getting the tap & blocking in the middle. Seemed to respond alright after the article last week, maybe we need another on him to kick him up another gear?

Stat: 2021 / 2022*
Disposals: 23.1 / 24.6
Marks: 5.2 / 3.3
Goals: 0.3 / 0.2
Tackles: 2.6 / 4.5
i50s: 5 / 5.3
CP: 8 / 9.4
DE%: 66.8% / 73.6%
Clearances: 3.6 / 4.2
Score involvements: 5.3 / 5.3
Metres gained: 407.3 / 345.1

*adjusted to remove the game where he got injured in about the first minute

* did you adjust 2021 due to being subbed out in a game in the first qtr vs adelaide in 2021?

(i dont really care, stats are boring but thought id point it out for fairness )

The covid excuse is rubbish, he was back at the club instantly and played the next week.....

 

[Aphrodite]

The “extraordinary” stat that bodes well for Carlton

“That’s a good sign.”

www.sen.com.au

“And that is about the defensive mechanism that needs to stand up at this time of the year – and this is protecting your D50.
“This means when the ball goes into your defensive 50, how good are you at preventing a score.
“Right now, after the last six weeks, the number one team in the competition that is heading towards the finals and is in great shape is Carlton.

“Extraordinary.”

“Carlton have put themselves in the same position as Melbourne did last year, as Richmond did when they won their premierships, and West Coast, so that’s a good sign.”

 

[skadoosh]

The “extraordinary” stat that bodes well for Carlton

“That’s a good sign.”

www.sen.com.au

% of time scored per inside 50 (taken from Footywire) and scoring shots does not include rushed behinds

vs Tigers - 26.3%
vs Freo - 32.5%
vs Saints - 41.5%
vs WCE - 40.5%
vs Cats - 43.1%
vs GWS - 27.1%
Average last 6 games - 35.2%

Let's compare with Geelong
vs WCE - 42.5%
vs Tigers - 38.5%
vs NM - 28.0%
vs Dees - 32.6%
vs Blues - 33.3%
vs Port - 33.9%
Average last 6 games - 34.8%

Demons:
vs Pies - 37.7%
vs Lions - 39.5%
vs Crows - 30.4%
vs Cats - 45.5%
vs Port - 32.7%
vs Dogs - 40.7%
Average last 6 games - 37.8%


Perhaps they are including rushed behinds as a 'scoring shot' given the Cats have a lower % based on the stats from Footywire.

For interest's sake - Collingwood
vs Dees - 23.1%
vs GWS - 34.0%
vs Suns - 27.8%
vs NM - 30.5%
vs Crows - 40.8%
vs * - 37.3
Average last 6 games - 32.3%

Anyone want to debunk my numbers?

 

[Stamos]

% of time scored per inside 50 (taken from Footywire) and scoring shots does not include rushed behinds

vs Tigers - 26.3%
vs Freo - 32.5%
vs Saints - 41.5%
vs WCE - 40.5%
vs Cats - 43.1%
vs GWS - 27.1%
Average last 6 games - 35.2%

Let's compare with Geelong
vs WCE - 42.5%
vs Tigers - 38.5%
vs NM - 28.0%
vs Dees - 32.6%
vs Blues - 33.3%
vs Port - 33.9%
Average last 6 games - 34.8%

Demons:
vs Pies - 37.7%
vs Lions - 39.5%
vs Crows - 30.4%
vs Cats - 45.5%
vs Port - 32.7%
vs Dogs - 40.7%
Average last 6 games - 37.8%


Perhaps they are including rushed behinds as a 'scoring shot' given the Cats have a lower % based on the stats from Footywire.

For interest's sake - Collingwood
vs Dees - 23.1%
vs GWS - 34.0%
vs Suns - 27.8%
vs NM - 30.5%
vs Crows - 40.8%
vs * - 37.3
Average last 6 games - 32.3%

Anyone want to debunk my numbers?

I think maybe it's shots, as opposed to scoring shots?
Just checked the official AFL stats for our games, they all read much higher than your percentages.
But for example, it says Giants had 20 shots from 48 Inside 50s. They only scored 8.6

 

[skadoosh]

I think maybe it's shots, as opposed to scoring shots?
Just checked the official AFL stats for our games, they all read much higher than your percentages.
But for example, it says Giants had 20 shots from 48 Inside 50s. They only scored 8.6

Yeah could be. Do we rank #1 based on that criteria?

 

[Stamos]

Yeah could be. Do we rank #1 based on that criteria?

Not sure. Can't be arsed looking at the stats for every game.

 

[Aphrodite]

% of time scored per inside 50 (taken from Footywire) and scoring shots does not include rushed behinds

vs Tigers - 26.3%
vs Freo - 32.5%
vs Saints - 41.5%
vs WCE - 40.5%
vs Cats - 43.1%
vs GWS - 27.1%
Average last 6 games - 35.2%

Let's compare with Geelong
vs WCE - 42.5%
vs Tigers - 38.5%
vs NM - 28.0%
vs Dees - 32.6%
vs Blues - 33.3%
vs Port - 33.9%
Average last 6 games - 34.8%

Demons:
vs Pies - 37.7%
vs Lions - 39.5%
vs Crows - 30.4%
vs Cats - 45.5%
vs Port - 32.7%
vs Dogs - 40.7%
Average last 6 games - 37.8%


Perhaps they are including rushed behinds as a 'scoring shot' given the Cats have a lower % based on the stats from Footywire.

For interest's sake - Collingwood
vs Dees - 23.1%
vs GWS - 34.0%
vs Suns - 27.8%
vs NM - 30.5%
vs Crows - 40.8%
vs * - 37.3
Average last 6 games - 32.3%

Anyone want to debunk my numbers?

Was bought up On The Couch last night.

Getting defence in order
Last 6 week H&A matches
Oppo score from inside 50

#1 Carlton
#2 Collingwood
#3 Fremantle
#4 Geelong



Last 5yrs all teams at #1 went on to win the Flag.

 

[thylacine60]

He's been a bit inconsistent, but covid & a hammy can do that to you. He's predominantly playing a bit more of an inside role than he did at Freo, so there's a reduction in marks, goals & metres gained, but that's offset by an increase in disposals, tackles, inside 50s, contested possessions & clearances. He also had that weird/bad game back from injury where they played him as a wing/hf & he didn't start in the centre square once.

Hopefully gets a good run at it for the rest of the year, probably helps too if Pitto can be getting the tap & blocking in the middle. Seemed to respond alright after the article last week, maybe we need another on him to kick him up another gear?

Stat: 2021 / 2022*
Disposals: 23.1 / 24.6
Marks: 5.2 / 3.3
Goals: 0.3 / 0.2
Tackles: 2.6 / 4.5
i50s: 5 / 5.3
CP: 8 / 9.4
DE%: 66.8% / 73.6%
Clearances: 3.6 / 4.2
Score involvements: 5.3 / 5.3
Metres gained: 407.3 / 345.1

*adjusted to remove the game where he got injured in about the first minute

just consistenter please, adam.....

 

[Sector 7G]

The “extraordinary” stat that bodes well for Carlton

“That’s a good sign.”

www.sen.com.au

Interesting article but this is typical of the type of lazy rubbish analysis of stats that the media uses these days. If it bodes so well for Carlton why are we 3 and 3 for those last 6 games?

 

[thylacine60]

Even when the media lauds Carlton, the media loathes Carlton.

 

[Sector 7G]

% of time scored per inside 50 (taken from Footywire) and scoring shots does not include rushed behinds

vs Tigers - 26.3%
vs Freo - 32.5%
vs Saints - 41.5%
vs WCE - 40.5%
vs Cats - 43.1%
vs GWS - 27.1%
Average last 6 games - 35.2%

Let's compare with Geelong
vs WCE - 42.5%
vs Tigers - 38.5%
vs NM - 28.0%
vs Dees - 32.6%
vs Blues - 33.3%
vs Port - 33.9%
Average last 6 games - 34.8%

Demons:
vs Pies - 37.7%
vs Lions - 39.5%
vs Crows - 30.4%
vs Cats - 45.5%
vs Port - 32.7%
vs Dogs - 40.7%
Average last 6 games - 37.8%


Perhaps they are including rushed behinds as a 'scoring shot' given the Cats have a lower % based on the stats from Footywire.

For interest's sake - Collingwood
vs Dees - 23.1%
vs GWS - 34.0%
vs Suns - 27.8%
vs NM - 30.5%
vs Crows - 40.8%
vs * - 37.3
Average last 6 games - 32.3%

Anyone want to debunk my numbers?

You cant just add the % up and divide by 6 . You need to add number of shots and divide by the number of entries

 

[AT97]

The “extraordinary” stat that bodes well for Carlton

“That’s a good sign.”

www.sen.com.au

A bit on the subject in pure footy pod.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/purefooty-episode-19-2022/video/cbd5c6fa7284476f3fe13f418b272bbc

 

[Arr0w]

Interesting article but this is typical of the type of lazy rubbish analysis of stats that the media uses these days. If it bodes so well for Carlton why are we 3 and 3 for those last 6 games?

Has nothing to do with points scored per inside 50 from the opposition

An example of this is the Richmond game, we only allowed 81 points from 76 inside 50's (1.07 points), us 66 from 51 inside 50's (1.29 points) The breakdown was between the arcs, not defensive 50

 

[branedotorg]

It's a funny one, the reverse of the stat was wheeled out when we lost to Richmond (allowing too many inside 50s).

So it's bad to concede too many inside 50s and it's good to concede too many inside 50s but repel scoring from a high percentage of them

 

[Bobmonkey]

A bit on the subject in pure footy pod.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/purefooty-episode-19-2022/video/cbd5c6fa7284476f3fe13f418b272bbc

From 6 mins 18 seconds.

 

[CJMB]

* did you adjust 2021 due to being subbed out in a game in the first qtr vs adelaide in 2021?

(i dont really care, stats are boring but thought id point it out for fairness )

The covid excuse is rubbish, he was back at the club instantly and played the next week.....

I didn’t, missed that…

 

[BlueSuede]

A bit on the subject in pure footy pod.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/purefooty-episode-19-2022/video/cbd5c6fa7284476f3fe13f418b272bbc

Really interesting analysis. Given the backline interruptions, it has been an amazing development across the year. Given where we're sitting defensively I think we will are well placed to be optimistic for the finals if:

• We can limit oppo inside 50s - having Pittonet back will help with getting our clearance game top notch again
• We can get smarter about going inside 50 - less direct turnovers, more pressure when the ball hits the ground

I can't remember being this excited this late in the season!

 

[ferrisb]

Matthew Lloyd's top seven half back flankers so far in 2022

See Lloyd’s top seven half back flankers in 2022 below.

www.sen.com.au

2. Adam Saad

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Adam Saad

Age

31

Ht

178cm

Wt

79kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.5

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

7.5

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.7

4star

MG

349.1

5star

D

20.7

5star

K

12.0

5star

HB

8.7

4star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.4

3star

MG

388.3

5star

D

17.6

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

7.2

5star

M

4.2

4star

T

1.2

3star

(Carlton)

“That game from Saad on the weekend was just an absolute blinder. I’ve never seen anything like it with the speckies and the foot skills and the works .”

I've always had nothing but the utmost respect for Matthew Lloyd's opinion....




Ps Doch at #6, Sinclair at #1...

 

[ctwenty1]

Was bought up On The Couch last night.

Getting defence in order
Last 6 week H&A matches
Oppo score from inside 50

#1 Carlton
#2 Collingwood
#3 Fremantle
#4 Geelong



Last 5yrs all teams at #1 went on to win the Flag.

So should the AFL just save everyone the trouble (and cash), and give us #17 now?