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my god…….the vaccine doesn’t stop you getting COVID. it was never meant to do that.

what it does do it it minimizes the risk of you having to be hospitalized and or dying from it.

Yeah it minimizes personal risk of potentially how bad the illness will be.
All this greater good shit makes no sense and mandates make even less sense.
 

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so Liam can sue the government if he gets an adverse reaction to a vaccination?

ok

can the government cancel his Medicare card make him pay full price if he ever gets hospitalised with COVID?
Id happily pay full price if it meant I didn't have to get vaccinated and I could live a normal life like the people in a tier one society and not lose literally everything.
 
Yeah it minimizes personal risk of potentially how bad the illness will be.
All this greater good sh*t makes no sense and mandates make even less sense.

personal risk lol. It hasn’t nothing to do with personal risk.

they are making people get the vaccine so our health system doesn’t get inundated With morons that didn’t get vaccinated who get sick and need help From hospitals.
 
Id happily pay full price if it meant I didn't have to get vaccinated and I could live a normal life like the people in a tier one society and not lose literally everything.

you don’t live a normal life? What has changed for you before and after getting the vaccine?
 
Show me the evidence
I know of a ton of vaxxed people recently getting covid.
Really. Out of the 1% of people who have had the virus in Victoria with the vast majority of cases being unvaccinated you happen to know a ton of them?

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you don’t live a normal life? What has changed for you before and after getting the vaccine?
Showing my papers everywhere I go. Not being able to travel interstate, society turning on society, perfectly normal life. Bloody tell ya what, segregation is great, wish we had done it earlier.
 
Really. Out of the 1% of people who have had the virus in Victoria with the vast majority of cases being unvaccinated you happen to know a ton of them?

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Some in the US
I do know of a guy in Melbourne fully vaxed who has covid right now.
 
Showing my papers everywhere I go. Not being able to travel interstate, society turning on society, perfectly normal life. Bloody tell ya what, segregation is great, wish we had done it earlier.

and you think not getting the vaccine will mean you don’t have to do any of that?

i am more than happy to live in a world where people who choose to not get a vaccine dont have too, but they also don’t get afforded any health care to treat what they don’t want the vaccine for.
 

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I understand, but there's no point to this utter madness.

madness will end soon enough. Once all the dumbasses in this world decide to end it.

it is a fact that getting the vaccine minimizes your risk of being hospitalized and dying from COVID. So stop whining about it And be grateful you have the option to get one.

i wonder if the millions that died in the Black Plague hundreds of years ago would have pissed and moaned about having to get a vaccine.
 
personal risk lol. It hasn’t nothing to do with personal risk.

they are making people get the vaccine so our health system doesn’t get inundated With morons that didn’t get vaccinated who get sick and need help From hospitals.

What about people who smoke, do drugs and eat crappy foods?
We don't tier society based upon people who make other lifestyle choices.
 
What about people who smoke, do drugs and eat crappy foods?
We don't tier society based upon people who make other lifestyle choices.

I have no issues with what you are saying. These should also be looked at.
 
Problem with that is it's like getting blood out of a stone.
You get percarditis a couple days after vaccination ''oh it's not related to the vax''
Claim dismissed.

Doctors don't want to lose their jobs.

You can't talk about it online or on the news you just get silenced and called a ''trumptard''

How do you know that it's like getting blood out of a stone... Have you put a claim in?

Also... You're correct, doctors don't want to lose their jobs which is why they would report a case of pericarditis, not try and hide it or misreport its cause.
 
madness will end soon enough. Once all the dumbasses in this world decide to end it.

it is a fact that getting the vaccine minimizes your risk of being hospitalized and dying from COVID. So stop whining about it And be grateful you have the option to get one.
Mate I was double vaccinated in September. 6 weeks later I was in hospital with covid. I couldn't breathe on my own, I developed pneumonia, still suffering with side effects to this very day. I was told my the doctors that I could potentially die from my condition.

I am in my 20s, zero underlying health conditions. Tell me how good this vaccine is?

Before you say imagine I wasn't double jabbed, I have heard it all before.
 

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