Carlton player Liam Jones refusing vax - Update: Jones retires from AFL

[CrippsVoss17]

If the OrangeBaby had his way we would all be mandated to inject bleach

Honestly why do people hate Trump so much they just have to make up blatant lies? I watched the press conference - not what he said at all.

We have seen the Russia hoax and many others exposed.

Trump says/does enough factual stupid things you can attack - why make up nonsense?

 

[Corrupt_]

Why do so many bigfooty posters come off as unhinged psychos?

 

[kingswood71]

Think of the old people and stop being selfish. The flu vax reduces transmission and saves lives, do your want me to bring out the statistics?

Yes please. share the actual data on how effective the flu vaccine is at preventing infections......
Also, you mentioned kids dying and have now changed that to old people??

 

[theyellowsash]

You mean the President under which the vaccine was developed?

Interesting how routinely he is criticized but what the left now wants to mandate people be injected with was developed under a guy their own VP said "if its developed under him I am not taking it"

What kind of idiot are you? Trump had nothing to do with the development of any vaccines. He was merely the president of a country where some vaccines were developed. Pfizer is a German company, and astrazeneca is a swedish/British company.

 

[Stocks_go_Up]

Browns’ RBs Nick Chubb and Demetric Felton tested positive for COVID-19, sources tell ESPN.

Both players are vaccinated,

And the AFL thinks vaccines are going to be the saviour lol..

 

[slashin_velvet]

The Right wing politicians at totally stoking the fire.

I don't think they're anti-vax - they're just using these low IQ battlers to peddle their Right wing message for them, in amongst the anti-vax stuff.

90% of the stuff these protesters are going on about is just classic right wing stuff.

It's because Biden won the election in the US, the main YouTube videos that right wingers see from the US contain anti-vax and January 6 storm the capital qanon conspiracy theory stuff.

The real anti-vax group are neither left nor right. Instead they are at the extremes of left and right.

Gotta remember that the political compass has a north and south (authoritarian vs libertarian). Most anti-vaxers would be hard libertarian, and the left/right element really depends where they are geographically. It's no coincidence these protests aren't happening in LNP Sydney where the government already has the powers in Andrews proposed bill.

 

[slashin_velvet]

And the AFL thinks vaccines are going to be the saviour lol..

No they don't. But they operate in the state of Victoria that has heavily imposed vaccine mandates for workplaces.

Ideally vaccines would have stopped all transmission, but in the absence of that, a reduction in severity is a nice "next best" case.

 

[Stocks_go_Up]

What kind of idiot are you? Trump had nothing to do with the development of any vaccines. He was merely the president of a country where some vaccines were developed. Pfizer is a German company, and astrazeneca is a swedish/British company.

Trump hate is strong.. even Faucis boss gives most of the credit to Trump admin.. you listen to the experts right

National Institutes of Health director Francis Collins tells "Axios on HBO" that the Trump administration deserves credit for the "breathtaking" speed of COVID vaccine development.

The big picture: The fact that it "got done in 11 months from when we first knew about this virus is at least five years faster than it's ever been before before," Collins said.

 

[Stocks_go_Up]

No they don't. But they operate in the state of Victoria that has heavily imposed vaccine mandates for workplaces.

Ideally vaccines would have stopped all transmission, but in the absence of that, a reduction in severity is a nice "next best" case.

I don't think AFL players who are some of the most fit and healthy people in the world have much to worry about from Covid.

 

[slashin_velvet]

I don't think AFL players who are some of the most fit and healthy people in the world have much to worry about from Covid.

I agree that their level of exercise would assist them with their recovery if infected, but also think they're in an environment where they have higher exertion and therefore secretion of bodily fluids than other workplaces which significantly increases contagion risk.

Outdoor training, lower risk, indoor weights and cardio, higher risk. And no masks while exercising is reasonable, but increases the risk relative to the accountants at their desks wearing masks.

 

[Bombermania]

The AFL should not be doing deals for Carlton, other clubs lose players and accept it.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

The AFL should not be doing deals for Carlton, other clubs lose players and accept it.

The AFL’s vaccine policy was introduced after the trade period finished. I suspect we’ll get a state league pick or something similar pre-draft.

As it stands Jones can’t be replaced until the SSP. That is ridiculous.

 

[Roby]

Because they have no evidence to support their claims, the beat they can do is avoid answering

I could so easily make a living shilling them misinformation if I wanted to.

We also live in a society where every person is completely different in terms of health not just age. Everyone also has different risk profiles regarding how they live their lives. But yes let's paint everyone with the same brush and keep jabbing people every 6 months with a Vax that has been proven to have severe side effects in people and doesn't even work that well.... Makes sense

You can't just speak things into existence. They require scientific analyses to be verified.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Typical AFL.

This pandemic has ousted how lazy our so called leaders are.

Blind Freddy could see it was heading this way. I’m surprised the AFL didn’t move quicker.

A state league pick or equivalent would be nice but if not, so be it.

 

[slashin_velvet]

The AFL’s vaccine policy was introduced after the trade period finished. I suspect we’ll get a state league pick or something similar pre-draft.

As it stands Jones can’t be replaced until the SSP. That is ridiculous.

Mini draft pick like GWS had access to makes sense. Horne-Francis would fill a Liam Jones size hole in Carlton fans hearts

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Mini draft pick like GWS had access to makes sense. Horne-Francis would fill a Liam Jones size hole in Carlton fans hearts

Yep. That seems the most logical option

 

[Sir_Loin]

You mean the President under which the vaccine was developed?

Interesting how routinely he is criticized but what the left now wants to mandate people be injected with was developed under a guy their own VP said "if its developed under him I am not taking it"

she said if a doctor said it was ok she would take it. She was making the point that you should trust the science and not take the advice of a moron who suggested injecting bleach or irradiating the body with UV light to treat Covid.

 

[Roby]

What kind of idiot are you? Trump had nothing to do with the development of any vaccines. He was merely the president of a country where some vaccines were developed. Pfizer is a German company, and astrazeneca is a swedish/British company.

In fact Moderna had developed the current vaccine before Trump realised:

-that the flu killed 50,000 in the US one year
-was even aware Covid existed
-thought Covid-19 was a left-wing conspiracy against him
-thought that Covid would just pass like the flu

 

[The 747]

The AFL’s vaccine policy was introduced after the trade period finished. I suspect we’ll get a state league pick or something similar pre-draft.

As it stands Jones can’t be replaced until the SSP. That is ridiculous.

Hang on, the Carlton player retired. Wasn't terminated for breach of contract. Carlton get a list spot and can pick up a player via the draft.

For once it would be good if the AFL didn't make rules on the run. If a Collingwood player retires tomorrow should Collingwood get further compensation for the player retiring?

 

[Hawk Dork]

I don't think AFL players who are some of the most fit and healthy people in the world have much to worry about from Covid.

or the vax

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Hang on, the Carlton player retired. Wasn't terminated for breach of contract. Carlton get a list spot and can pick up a player via the draft.

For once it would be good if the AFL didn't make rules on the run. If a Collingwood player retires tomorrow should Collingwood get further compensation for the player retiring?

Nice little loophole for the AFL there. Jones was clearly forced to retire due to vaccination policy.

We can’t pick up a player in the draft as it stands.

I suspect we’ll get some form of compensation. If not who cares. Nothing in the state leagues or unders could replace Jones’ output in 2022 anyway.

 

[Satan]

Trump hate is strong.. even Faucis boss gives most of the credit to Trump admin.. you listen to the experts right

The dislike of Trump was well before covid 19 but thats another forum
But here is list of comments by Trump during last year

Trump's Deceptive Comparison of the Coronavirus to the Flu - FactCheck.org

Here’s what the president said in public remarks, interviews and tweets from Jan. 22 through March, often likening the novel coronavirus to the flu as a way of downplaying the danger.

www.factcheck.org

Trump was relying the vaccine be available before the election . Didnt happen

 

[The 747]

Nice little loophole for the AFL there. Jones was clearly forced to retire due to vaccination policy.

We can’t pick up a player in the draft as it stands.

I suspect we’ll get some form of compensation. If not who cares. Nothing in the state leagues or unders could replace Jones’ output in 2022 anyway.

Again, he retired, he wasn't terminated under the policy.

 

[Hawk Dork]

It shows how ingrained the fear of vax is that half a mill and a club Dr and psychologist cant change his mind....pretty sad really

 

[FrankGrimes]

And the AFL thinks vaccines are going to be the saviour lol..

You do know how vaccines work? How many nfl players are there? 32 teams x 50 odd players? Statistics tell you that at 90% rate some will get it.