Maybe the stupidest comment I have ever read, anywhere.
It's a human right, well at least in the western world, that no matter what you have done, you are innocent until proven guilty, no matter what the crime is.
Or did I miss a change to human and legal rights as a whole?
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Sorry, had to laugh at the threat title.
But this part is just plain ****ing stupid.
WTF, the players concerned have done nothing legally wrong, that is what has come out of all this, did I miss something Caro didn't.
look up laws on rape, and you'll see why statistically, only 20-30% of male-female rapes are reported to authorities, and then why only 15% of those reach trial, and then why only 5% of those end in conviction...
statistically, beams and mccartny have nothing to worry about... that doesnt mean they are innocent...
'innocent until proven guilty' doesnt count when it comes to rape. often there is no evidence remaining, no witnesses, and the emotional scarring is too much of a burden on the victim to both report the case and then re-live the accusations through a lengthy trial...
think about if you were raped by your best mates dad when you were younger. how you would feel about going to the police, telling your parents, going to school and seeing your friends... sometimes its just easier to bottle it up...
here is some night time reading for you:
You seriously need to get your head out of it. Nobody mentioned HER integrity - instead of ranting from your high horse and reacting READ posts, TWICE I made a serious point of saying that this accusation didn't necessarily fall into the false category but you blindly vent on anyone or anything that seems - in your one track mind at least - to cast doubt on accusers. What about the poor b's who are the 5%??? Those that go through false accusations have no chance of living a normal life ever again that is why innocence is assumed by most fair minded people until proven guilty. Then again there are some close minded individuals who suspend justice for vengeance - aren't there????? Rape is a heinous crime and should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. Blind hatred and single minded vengeance seeking before the fact guilt is proven is the practice of an unbalanced value set. In the old west it was called a lynch mob.
Agreed the media in this country like to believe themselves news shapers but in reality it's all about crafting a perception with a sensational headline and carefully worded almost illegal accusations. News has nothing to do with their stories. Trash.
You are a ****ing idiot. Yes it does. Prove to me otherwise.
innocent until proven guilty doesnt apply to every situation; for example, if you're reported as having thrown a cigarette out the window, you're assumed to be guilty and the onus is on you to prove your innocence... you're welcome to go get up in arms about that...
why is that the case? because collecting evidence for that crime would be IMPOSSIBLE... it would come down to some random saying you through a butt out the window against you saying you didnt... similarly, thats what rape almost always comes down to... obviously a $250 fine is quite different to a jail sentence and the stigma of being labeled a rapist for the rest of your life...
and for all those worried about false accusations and false imprisonments; yes they occur and yes they are wrong, but honestly it would be something like for every 100,000 unpunished cases of rape, there is 1 false punishment... probably even less... you should be more worried about rapists getting away with it, and the system that allows this to happen... and obviously the case we are dealing with is not ex-wife vs. ex-husband jealousy etc... for the record, i think the family courts are shocking in the way they neglect the father's role in a childs life, and almost always award sole custody to the mother (see super dads)
notably, the recent $36m sexual harassment case against the DJ's ceo was settled for around $800,000... why? because the ceo was innocent? unlikely... its more probable that the only evidence that anything ever happened was a few dodgy txt msgs the victim had kept, and that simply wouldnt stand up in court... she would have been advised that she would lose the case base don a lack of substantial hard evidence, and to settle for an insignificant $800k... again, this hardly proves anything, its merely a legal formality. it doesnt prove the ceo's innocence or guilt, it's just a point reached by the legal process.
with the collingwood case, lets hypothesise that the girl in question was seeing someone (or at least thought she was seeing someone) from the group at eve night club. she willingly goes back to the hotel with the group of guys, including the one she feels she is attached with. they get back to the hotel, have a drink, and she and her partner go into a room and have sex. great, everything is good... then half way through, another player comes in and says "my turn" and jumps on the bed and starts to have his way... the partner of the girl (for whatever reason) just allows this to happen... the girl says no repeatedly... eventually the new guy has had enough and leaves the room... no scars are left, he hasnt ejaculated in her, the only witnesses are the 3 people in the room...
now im not suggesting that this has happened, its just an example. but in this case, how would she prove in court that a rape took place? unless her partner is willing to testify that the other bloke came in and that she refused and he went through with it anyway, there is NO POSSIBLE WAY that she can legally prove that she was raped... in fact, the legal process would reveal that she had maybe had too much to drink, was wearing a short skirt and was basically 'asking for it'... and if you're an idiot like spida everitt is, you'll think that shes agreed to be gang banged the moment she left eve night club...
if you approve of a system that allows this kind of act to go unpunished, then good for you... but in my opinion, statistics show that the system does not work, and that the laws need to change to reflect this...
