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THE popular myth about Richmond during its most recent golden era was that a trapdoor lay in the centre of Graeme Richmond's office and those who fell into the black hole beneath it were never to return.
The sad truth about Tigerland now in its current decrepit state is that good people leave the club disenchanted or otherwise, kick major scores at other clubs and throughout the industry and still never return.
Richmond has no former player on its board, its match committee or its coaching staff. No club in the AFL has been so blatantly shunned by its own. It seems a club almost bereft of culture. Another reminder of that came six days ago when Cameron Schwab announced he would step down as Fremantle's chief executive to return home to be closer to his family. Remarkably, it is 20 years since the then 24-year-old Schwab was appointed CEO of Richmond.
Schwab's father Alan was an architect of that golden era and although Cameron did not succeed in his time as CEO, he leaves Fremantle — $8 million in debt when he joined — with $5 million in the bank, albeit without a premiership.
If the younger Schwab has an enduring passion it is to return to the club — at which he grew up — to rebuild it. He will no doubt watch today's Dockers-Tigers clash with mixed feelings.
Schwab's ambition is not necessarily immediate but perhaps it should be. He is friendly with player manager Daniel Richardson (the son of former Richmond premiership hero-turned-coach-turned-president Barry) who, in turn, is close friends with another successful sports administrator in four-time premiership ruckman Michael Green's son, Christopher.
Imagine if that trio joined forces with, say, Neil Balme and Brendon Gale — who is said to be doing so well as CEO of the players' union that a senior AFL role reportedly beckons — who in turn managed to recruit a trio of former Tigers now well-regarded in assistant coaching ranks such as Wayne Campbell, Chris Bond and Ashley Prescott, to take over the club?
Perhaps Schwab's worst task during his time at Richmond was sacking Kevin Bartlett, the most famous example of a legend at odds with his club. Now Bartlett is a media commentator whose knowledge is so well regarded that he sits on the AFL Hall of Fame, All-Australian and Rising Star selection committees as well as the laws of the game board. Only last year, after 16 years, did he return to attend a club function and even that was one run by the past players.
Brett Ratten pushed and was moderately successful at putting some of the Carlton he knew and loved back into Carlton. If Ratten had his way you get the feeling the entire 1995 premiership team would be back at the club in some form or another.
Not Richmond. Not only has the club failed to lure one former player onto its board since Tony Jewell departed four seasons ago but Terry Wallace's assistant coaches and match committee consist of not one individual with an ounce of Tiger blood. No AFL club bar the Tigers has not one former player at any level.
Prescott resisted overtures to return to Punt Road but jumped at the chance to join Matthew Knights at Essendon, while Bond, whom Richmond has attempted to lure back several times, chose to move to Fremantle. Campbell works at the Western Bulldogs.
The subtle but passionate attempt to lure Kevin Sheedy back to Richmond began this time last year. A group of powerful former Tigers did not want Sheedy as coach but as an executive president. The symbolism, they felt, would have been as powerful as the reality and the reality is that the club appears to have no heart. Only a couple of board members make a genuine contribution. The rest should think seriously about stepping down at the end of the year. President Gary March, at least, genuinely loves the club but is heavily committed and has adopted a "softly softly" approach to fixing Richmond's damaged culture. More is required.
Greg Miller, the North Melbourne shareholder, must step down as a director. Now in his sixth year at the club, the man who largely engineered two North Melbourne premierships must be seen to have officially failed at Tigerland. The club is worse off than when he joined and he did so with the express purpose of leading the club to its 11th premiership.
Just over a year ago Miller sat with Wallace and helped explain why the club could not expect genuine success until 2011. What an indictment on Miller. It is said he spread himself too thinly but no one asked Miller to work outside the club, and devote himself to other worthy but non-Richmond-related causes.
Early draft picks at the end of 2004 have been proven inferior but won the PR battle for the Casey-Miller ticket as did Wallace, the popular choice as coach.
I have less issue with Wallace's performance and believe the club would be crazy to sack him before the end of his five-year term.
Wallace is a good coach, strong on tactics, innovation and salesmanship but not necessarily known for talent in developing young players. The shortcomings should have been dealt with much earlier and Miller should have seen that.
Steven Wright, the Richmond CEO, has done a more than reasonable job when you consider the club's dreadful financial position when he took over. But his only football claim is that he is a passionate Tiger and so he has never interfered with the football operations, when perhaps others would have.
Richmond supporters bled last year as they watched the positive influence Balme had on Geelong and coach Mark Thompson in his debut season at Kardinia Park. For 25 years they cheered but bled as Sheedy became one of the greatest coaches in the history of the game. Perhaps Knights will cause them heartache as well.
Too many Tigers have left the club, disenchanted but carrying an intangible passion for Richmond. Too many have never returned.
The club has lost a generation of barrackers but the true believers remain. Thank heavens for the past players group, and thank heavens for Matthew Richardson. It is time for the good servants of Tigerland — and their offspring — to join forces and return. It is also time for some others to cut their losses and leave.

Probably her best article articulate, takes aim at miller, club culture....we have none very right
 
It's pretty spot on.

Miller should step down, he hasn't delivered.
And it's pretty clear now that Wallace isn't good at developing youngsters
 
Clear to everyone but Caro:

"I have less issue with Wallace's performance and believe the club would be crazy to sack him before the end of his five-year term."
 

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If you have enjoyed 25 years of disappoinment and you want the cycle to continue then you go ahead and sack Wallace because that is what will happen if Wallace is sacked :thumbsd:

Because Wallace is clearly on the right track? Sorry, but we are as bad on field as we have been in a long time. New coach, new gameplan, new style of development for youngsters, new football operations department. Clean sweep, let's start again. The one positive is that Terry has left the list in a state that someone new can come in and build on. But he's not the guy.
 
we must stick with Wallace until his 5 year plan is complete. He is in his 4th year and things arent looking to good atm. But, as has been shown by the dawks and Clarkson, things can turn in the space of a year.

Not saying they will, but for some strange reason, I feel that there is a definite plan seeing that in the face of tremendous criticism, from supporters and media, he has stuck to his guns when it comes to keeping a major slice of the draftees that have come to the club since his appointment, playing together at Coburg, and sticking to the tried and tested and failed selections in the senior line up. I cant really imagine that he cant see the deficiencies in the players that continue to be selected in the seniors, especially when it comes to skills, not only in disposal, but skills in option taking, but they still get the nod at the selection table.
The excuses afforded by him, re. learning and development when it comes to players who have shown quite clearly that they are incapable of producing what is the required skill level, mean Jack to those that understand what a skilled footballer looks like from day one. There have been glaring examples of this, with Connors, Edwards and of course Thursty.

Lets see what unfolds, you never know if you dont let the plan run its course.

When we get to the end of the 5 year plan, we then can assess and go from there.
For my 3 cents worth, if it does come to the point where we look for a new coach and coaching panel. I would be looking to a Pressa + Bondy combo, backed by a Kevin Morris as the "talent" spotter. ;)
 
No, we must get rid of both at the end of this season.
Miller I tend to agree with, but getting rid of Wallace would be nuts. He needs to see out his five years, then we'll reconsider.

By the way, you say "we" in your quote, but your team is Unlisted?
 
we must stick with Wallace until his 5 year plan is complete. He is in his 4th year and things arent looking to good atm. But, as has been shown by the dawks and Clarkson, things can turn in the space of a year.

Not saying they will, but for some strange reason, I feel that there is a definite plan seeing that in the face of tremendous criticism, from supporters and media, he has stuck to his guns when it comes to keeping a major slice of the draftees that have come to the club since his appointment, playing together at Coburg, and sticking to the tried and tested and failed selections in the senior line up. I cant really imagine that he cant see the deficiencies in the players that continue to be selected in the seniors, especially when it comes to skills, not only in disposal, but skills in option taking, but they still get the nod at the selection table.

Lets see what unfolds, you never know if you dont let the plan run its course.

When we get to the end of the 5 year plan, we then can assess and go from there.
For my 3 cents worth, if it does come to the point where we look for a new coach and coaching panel. I would be looking to a Pressa + Bondy combo, backed by a Kevin Morris as the "talent" spotter. ;)
Good post Cogga.
at the end of the day, we have to trust the powers that be to see what's unfolding in front of their own eyes and not bow to the feral masses out there.
if a plan is in place, then let it run its course. If it's not and everyone is running around the place screaming 'What do we do next?' then the lot of them can start looking for another job.
 
Gee every 'expert' has had a fair crack at us this week and I reckon its just the start. Get pounded in Perth today by the Dockers and they can expert the blowtorch to be turned up to full heat come mid week.

I see this as a real test for the club and how it is going to move forward. If they fold to the pressure it doesn't look good at all, yet if there are clear problems, which have been spoken about this weekend and they do nothing to fix them then again it wont look good.

Somehow I get the feeling that Wallace is starting to make a few tough calls, dropping Bowden this week, Pettifer's suspension saved him from getting the axe otherwise he would have been dropped as well. Others will now know they have the dagger hanging over their heads and need to pull their fingers out or they will be running around at Coburg as well. The kids are starting to show that they are ready to start taking over putting in consistently good performances at Coburg and will be given their chance to stake a claim.

I know it is only 3 weeks in but I get the feeling Wallace has told the 'senior' group of players that they have until Round 7 to cement a spot in the 22 or be replaced by the younger kids. The winds of change are blowing in and there are a few who are going to get blown away, both on and off the field.
 
Miller I tend to agree with, but getting rid of Wallace would be nuts. He needs to see out his five years, then we'll reconsider.

By the way, you say "we" in your quote, but your team is Unlisted?

It's an alias. Ssshhhhh.
 

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She cops an absolute shellacking on here, especially on the main board, but I enjoy reading her articles on Richmond, because it comes from the heart.

This bitch doesn't have a heart. She is just trying to get on the board herself.

Just what the Tigers need, a heartless, selfinterest bitch on the board of our great club.
 
This bitch doesn't have a heart. She is just trying to get on the board herself.

Just what the Tigers need, a heartless, selfinterest bitch on the board of our great club.
Be interested for you to illustrate your reasons for that being "Self-serving" ...?

Trying to get on the board herself ??? ... Who is to say she wouldn`t do a good job anyway ? ...

Her article is about about putting the heart back into the Richmond footy club by bringing the faithfull back ... how is this a bad thing ?

I think she just won`t post on PRE ........ ;)
 
Wallace should stay, however the club must get rid of his assistants. Rawlings should remain as coach of Coburg in an Andy Collins type set up.

The club should have an open cheque book and really go hard at gretting N. Buckley and C. Bond. The last few weeks as Buckley has become more comfortable with his media presentation it is easy to see just how much knowledge he has of the game.

T.Wallace - Coach with an overall plan , media whore for the club.
N. Buckley - Player development. Match day set up and tactics.
C. Bond. The guy to put a rocket up the players.
 
Wallace should stay, however the club must get rid of his assistants. Rawlings should remain as coach of Coburg in an Andy Collins type set up.

The club should have an open cheque book and really go hard at gretting N. Buckley and C. Bond. The last few weeks as Buckley has become more comfortable with his media presentation it is easy to see just how much knowledge he has of the game.

T.Wallace - Coach with an overall plan , media whore for the club.
N. Buckley - Player development. Match day set up and tactics.
C. Bond. The guy to put a rocket up the players.
We have absolutely no f..king hope of getting N Buckley to Punt rd. ...as much as he would be an asset for us ..

I would bet my house that he will be M. Malthouses successor
 
I have to agree on the Miller issue. His performance has been terrible, and it's time he is replaced. Kevin Sheedy would be an ideal candidate for football manager at Richmond.

Wallace should be given targets to meet and if he does not, then we may have to seriously consider a replacement. Damien Hardwick would be my first choice, because he was a hard player and doesn't shy away from doing the hard things to re-build a list.

Yes we need a re-gig of the list, but more importantly we need a massive overhaul of our club's culture. Time to stop looking out for yourself individually, and time to start bleeding for the club. We need to stop drawing upon past success, because that is long gone now and instead we need to build a new era for the RFC.
 

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http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum//index.php?topic=6898.msg95148;topicseen#msg95148

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She keeps writing articles on how slack we are as a club how we have failed on and off field for so long. Her father contributed to that yet she makes no reference to that. It is "slightly hypocritical". Its not condemning her it is merely a question that she has never answered and in her position she should at least recognise it. Why is her fathers presidency in the last few years not worthy of any reference? Does she want us to suppress that and no reference perhaps suggests a reason for us to conveniently forget her fathers ills? The crap all started with him under his presiding.
As for ppl not happy to be judged by actions of their forbears I understand how they would feel but I would certainly not carry on passing the buck to someone else and neglecting to mention my forbears ills as if it never occurred nor would I be happy to convict and slaughter subsequent administrations and position of public authority to condemn them whilst conveniently forgetting the Sins of the Father. Isn't moving forward a form of forgiving of past admins accepting what has hapenned and moving on? Obviously not in Caro's case. Caro's articles are beyond a joke. Hypocritical to say the least!!!!!!!!
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easy oxx whilst i would bang her in an instant, her father did ok for RFC........to even suggest that is bulldust
 
easy oxx whilst i would bang her in an instant, her father did ok for RFC........to even suggest that is bulldust


he did ok but he also is a big factor in us going from a none before seen powerhouse in 1980, pulling a never before seen million through the home gate, into the current basket case we are now. All because he wanted to play, "i can do it better than collingwood". ie he started the rot. And as the poster suggests, Caro bags everyone about our predicament, but steers clear of her old mans input. Now she is advertising for the muppet Schwab to return. Schwab, the one that set us up for the next 20 years, went to freo and as is plain to see, again has kicked major goals in making that club a basket case as well...FFS, can anyone suggest what he has done to merit any of the accolades that Caro etc suggest? He ____ed up the dees, came to the tigers, surfed on the back of the tiger supporters saving the club by pitching in, sent us into oblivion on the field, left and then went to Freo, who were a basket case and now are totally certifiable. Get Real Caro...FFS while your old man was to busy luring "super stars" from collingwood to the tigers, in the form of Ross Brewer, John Annear etc, giving away BT and Butch Edwards etc, as his form of keeping the team at the top of the ladder, the dawks who had been mediocre and treading water, were going out and luring their youngsters into their zones, in readiness for the next 20 years. The rest is history isnt it? ;)
 
he did ok but he also is a big factor in us going from a none before seen powerhouse in 1980, pulling a never before seen million through the home gate, into the current basket case we are now. All because he wanted to play, "i can do it better than collingwood". ie he started the rot. And as the poster suggests, Caro bags everyone about our predicament, but steers clear of her old mans input. Now she is advertising for the muppet Schwab to return. Schwab, the one that set us up for the next 20 years, went to freo and as is plain to see, again has kicked major goals in making that club a basket case as well...FFS, can anyone suggest what he has done to merit any of the accolades that Caro etc suggest? He ____ed up the dees, came to the tigers, surfed on the back of the tiger supporters saving the club by pitching in, sent us into oblivion on the field, left and then went to Freo, who were a basket case and now are totally certifiable. Get Real Caro...FFS while your old man was to busy luring "super stars" from collingwood to the tigers, in the form of Ross Brewer, John Annear etc, giving away BT and Butch Edwards etc, as his form of keeping the team at the top of the ladder, the dawks who had been mediocre and treading water, were going out and luring their youngsters into their zones, in readiness for the next 20 years. The rest is history isnt it? ;)
Hawthorn didn't lure anyone into their zone - it was just the most fertile. While we were stuck with Mildura, they got the south-east growth corridor and reaped the likes of Dermie, Ayres, Langford, Mew, etc. Plus they went out and signed big name interstate players like Platten and Buckenara and fat unknown Queenslanders like Dunstall, while we recycled Collingwood hacks. Not sure that was Ian Wilson's doing though. He was the president, not the recruiting officer.
 
This bitch doesn't have a heart. She is just trying to get on the board herself.

Just what the Tigers need, a heartless, selfinterest bitch on the board of our great club.
Being a sports journo myself before I starting doing my current job, I tend to stick up a bit for the scribes. Even Patrick Smith I can handle when others can't. I can just see it from their angle as well.
 
Hawthorn didn't lure anyone into their zone - it was just the most fertile. While we were stuck with Mildura, they got the south-east growth corridor and reaped the likes of Dermie, Ayres, Langford, Mew, etc. Plus they went out and signed big name interstate players like Platten and Buckenara and fat unknown Queenslanders like Dunstall, while we recycled Collingwood hacks. Not sure that was Ian Wilson's doing though. He was the president, not the recruiting officer.

he was the dude who signed off on all of the goings on. BTW, as for hawthorn not luring anyone to their zone, i take it you have NFI how clubs operated back then do you? You found a young gun out of your zone, you moved the family to your zone. Of course this to you is impossible isnt it? Just like no team other than the blues tanked last year, correct?
 

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