Environment Cats & dogs & lazy owners

[TheGhostOfJohnBelushi]

My biggest gripe is dog owners who don't keep their dog on a leash and the bloody things run towards you really aggressively. Lucky it's never happened to me when I've had my kids with me, otherwise the dog that came near them would be cracked in the skull by my right boot.

Plenty of times have had dogs wandering the streets with no owner, or their owner a fair distance away not caring, come straight for me. I'm a big unit so I can defend myself, but I shudder to think what could happen if it was a kid or elderly person they were gunning for. Just yesterday had one tail me while I was cycling, owner was a couple of hundred metres away doing nothing.

I always leash my dog when he's walked (lol, he wouldn't come back if I didn't ) and he's a friendly, golden retriever. Big dog, yes, but nowhere near as menacing as the typical bogan-owned dogs you see. He spends plenty of time inside covering furniture, floors and clothing with his hair.

As for cats, if you own one, be responsible for it. There's absolutely no need to let them wander outside. We set up a cat run down the side of our house so our boy has outside space. He's fine. Plus there is zero risk of feline AIDs and other communicable diseases for him. The worst owners are those who don't get their cats fixed and let them wander and then, oh look, a shitload of kittens they either can't get rid of or they end up at the cat haven or RSPCA.

 

[tigers_of_old_08]

Thread has merit; OP is an expert on being lazy.

Nah, OP must surely be trolling his own thread. It's the off-season and she's bored.

 

[JockStewart]

You know i am bothered about the current obesity rates, fat lazy stoners who sit around and eat enough food to feed a family of 7. To me that's more irresponsible than what cats do.

yeah big fat obese lard arses..

Oh hai OP..

 

[Full Wingspan]

Have owned dogs all my life and have just recently owned a cat.

When it comes to dogs, keep them outside. As much as people like to believe they're human, the truth is they're animals. I let my dogs roam the backyard all day, and they would sleep in their bed/kennel in the shed. Pretty easy IMO. I made sure they had plenty of shade for hot days and cover from the cold and wet. (as well as a jacket if needed).

In response to the OP; you sound like a total moo. In my experiences, the animals that appear most ****ed in the head are the ones left inside all day. My girlfriend's dog is kept inside, and while he is nice enough when he settles down, he can be extremely irritating and dependent on being inside. It seems unnatural for him to behave the way he does, and I believe it is largely to do with the fact they've been kept indoors. The happiest dogs have easily been the ones left outside and cared for appropriately.

As for cats, I let mine outside. It meows and meows until I let him out. It is their natural instinct to go outside and wander, so I let him, but not at night. I don't understand how this is lazy pet-owning.

 

[Kram]

If you get the cat sterilised (especially if done early) it should pretty much stick to the confines of your property, mine goes outside and it must've been years since the last time I've seen it even a few metres away from home.

With dogs I knew someone that used to work at a Vets and they said that you just wouldn't believe the amount of people that come in to put dogs down for the most ridiculous reasons.

 

[JockStewart]

Love cats, own a few and yeah i let it roam outside when it wants.

Leaving it locked inside all the time is just cruel. Would you like being imprisoned in a small room for the rest of your life?

Anyway if i don't let it wonder outside it will piss and shit everywhere out of spite.

 

[Messenger]

OP has clearly never owned a cat

But he has a cat leash just in case.

 

[sabre_ac]

It feels like every day I am fighting an inner battle of do I get a dog or do I not.

I grew up with a dog and rate it as one of the best parts of my childhood, I really miss having one. But I'm currently working long hours and when I'm not working I'm out socialising, I also live in a shared house. I know deep down its not fair on the dog to get one at this stage in life, it's best left for when I am settled and maybe with a family who can share the burden. But this doesn't stop me from constantly researching dog breeds and looking at puppies for sale.

 

[HahnPremium]

Bums are the only true responsible dog owners. Longest walk in the world.

 

[Marlowe]

I don't think I've ever met an 'indoors' cat that wasn't completely ****ed in the head. Pretty much every argument for keeping your cat indoors could apply to human beings too; you could get run over, be attacked by danerous wildlife or catch AIDS, but that doesn't stop us.

Letting a cat outside is neither lazy nor irresponsible, it's pretty acceptable and safe. It's what they do - they're curious little things - they go outside.

As for dogs. Too many ******s are allowed to have dogs.

 

[The Big Sticks]

I know someone who owns two cats. One is too scared to go outside so it stays inside all the time and as a result, it's very overweight. The other one likes to wander around, usually on their property, and it is very healthy and playful.

I think I would prefer to let my cat outside and be healthy rather than being fat, lazy and paranoid.

 

[Wright Away]

I didnt like the wandering stray cats so i just let my dog out and she got it and that cat ran off and never came back.

 

[The_Reaper]

My dog stays outside nearly all the time. We let her in to watch TV with us sometimes at night when it's cold and she isn't wanting to go to bed yet. She occasionally gives a couple of quick barks at the postie when he wakes her up, but that's about 3 barks a week "woof, woof, woof... ok I'm done for the week." She's a fit, healthy kelpie and seems alright to me.

I've also got a Kelpie. He prefers the outside.

 

[Catfish Alley]

Our cat used to be an outdoors cat until we moved to Canada. Now we live in apartment so she stays inside. She's got a little fat but that's also due to her getting older. Unfortunately there isn't too much I can do about it apart from watching what she eats. She never caused any trouble when she was outdoors. As someone said, if you have them fixed they tend to stay to their territory.

We also have a dog. He's a Boston Terrier so he isn't too big and doesn't need a heap of exercise. He gets walked 3 times a day and often has a big run around the parks or burns energy by playing with other friends dogs. Even if we did have a yard I don't think he could stay outside. Would freeze in winter. Cats do their own thing but dogs need attention. My sister keeps her dog outside in a big yard but they never really walk or train it. As a result, the poor thing is a little messed up.

 

[Jackfrost]

It feels like every day I am fighting an inner battle of do I get a dog or do I not.

I grew up with a dog and rate it as one of the best parts of my childhood, I really miss having one. But I'm currently working long hours and when I'm not working I'm out socialising, I also live in a shared house. I know deep down its not fair on the dog to get one at this stage in life, it's best left for when I am settled and maybe with a family who can share the burden. But this doesn't stop me from constantly researching dog breeds and looking at puppies for sale.

Yeah mate deep down you know what's best. Wait till you get your own place and get yourself a Goldie. Best dogs and so brilliant around young kids ever but are horribly behaved puppies (apparently labs are worst)

 

[radiojake]

I don't think I've ever met an 'indoors' cat that wasn't completely screwed in the head.

I have a new housemate and she has brought in her cat, which I think in the 6 months that they have been here I have seen outside maybe twice. The cat is completely ******ed in every possible way. Shit scared of everyone, jumps about as if it has been drinking red bull all day. Weird.

At the same time, wandering around at night outside cats with bells on their collars are the best hunters... They learn to stalk without triggering the bell.....


I would really like a dog but I have not got one (or likely to get one) because I am unable to commit within myself to the responsibilities of being a dog owner - Even though I am sure I would be infinately better than a lot of dog owners out there...

 

[Caesar]

I don't mind cats as long as their owners have them fixed, give them a bell, and make sure they're inside at night.

 

[sabre_ac]

Yeah mate deep down you know what's best. Wait till you get your own place and get yourself a Goldie. Best dogs and so brilliant around young kids ever but are horribly behaved puppies (apparently labs are worst)

I actually want a German Shepherd or English Bulldog.

 

[Gabbie]

It feels like every day I am fighting an inner battle of do I get a dog or do I not.

I grew up with a dog and rate it as one of the best parts of my childhood, I really miss having one. But I'm currently working long hours and when I'm not working I'm out socialising, I also live in a shared house. I know deep down its not fair on the dog to get one at this stage in life, it's best left for when I am settled and maybe with a family who can share the burden. But this doesn't stop me from constantly researching dog breeds and looking at puppies for sale.

What someone else said, wait til you have your own place, got over being a party person, travel person and work regular hours.

Maybe check around and see if anyone would like assistance in walking their dog, win win for you, dog and them. You get to enjoy the company of a dog without the responsibility.

I know I would have been a shocker of a dog owner back in my party hardy days, that's why I didn't have one. Now if I need to get away I get a dog/house sitter in as my ole fella is by himself now and is also on medication. One day at a time.

 

[IAMJUNGLEMUFFIN]

"Cats need to go outside" is a cop out. Train it, put it on a leash or just learn to close the doors if you're really lazy. Don't play the "It's nature" card because you can't be bothered caring.



Well that totally makes it okay then...

If I was out there attacking threatened native species I'd rightly get in legal shit about it. But if it's a cat that an owner can't be bothered training or controlling then 'play on'? **** that.

Because there's just so many vulnerable "native species" waiting to be preyed upon in suburbia.

Survival of the fittest is the very essence of nature, get over it.

 

[Benno_900]

"Cats need to go outside" is a cop out. Train it, put it on a leash or just learn to close the doors if you're really lazy. Don't play the "It's nature" card because you can't be bothered caring.

Yep, locking your cat indoors for all its life is totally more responsible.

 

[mantis]

Because there's just so many vulnerable "native species" waiting to be preyed upon in suburbia.

Survival of the fittest is the very essence of nature, get over it.

I agree, so when your cat jumps into my backyard & gets treated like a rag doll & ends up with a broken neck, get over it.

 

[MrNatural]

Because there's just so many vulnerable "native species" waiting to be preyed upon in suburbia.

Survival of the fittest is the very essence of nature, get over it.

Many native species of Australia evolved over millions of years without any major predators, then suddenly over the last 200 years they have been forced to adapt to introduced species, not exactly fair is it.

 

[IAMJUNGLEMUFFIN]

I agree, so when your cat jumps into my backyard & gets treated like a rag doll & ends up with a broken neck, get over it.

Animals know how it works, it's just the bleeding heart brigade that have forgotten. Such is life.

 

[JockStewart]

I agree, so when your cat jumps into my backyard & gets treated like a rag doll & ends up with a broken neck, get over it.

If your dog did that to any of my cats i would come over to your place and start kicking your dog. I hate dog owners who feel it's the right thing to do for their dog to attack and kill.

Dogs shit me. It's no wonder ******s own them. Cats take more time and patience..you just dont leave a cat in the backyard tied up and chuck food at it like a lot of owners do with dogs.