Autopsy Cats lose to Lions by 41 points.

[Spearman]

Because people are inclined to wonder why that lack of skill execution came to be.

20 of 23 footballers just forgetting how to play football at the same time is rare, and a mighty coincidence.

I don't think anyone is suggesting some grand conspiracy, just that if you're 5% off in this competition (whatever the reason for that may be) then this is what occurs.

I'm beginning to think the guys have a bit of a blowout BBQ party the night before KP milestone games.

 

[Spearman]

The second most disposals he's had in a game this season - only behind the 12 he collected against Port

I replied to Daz during the match that maybe he did get a rocket over the past fortnight; he was starting on the wing, working back deep into defence and then into attacking positions

Not sure where things necessarily go from here, but hopefully he takes some positives from tonight as he really did provide something when he came on

Definitely, either from the coach or from himself. He seems the type who would know he needed to lift to get his spot back.

 

[cats_09]

Made sense with one of the club sponsors being Cotton on.
Might have been better though if everyone got a Ford ranger

Beep the horn & flash the lights after every goal to pump up the boys?

 

[Play it Sam]

Beep the horn & flash the lights after every goal to pump up the boys?

Ahhh that takes me back. Country footy, fun times in the freezing cold but warm car.

 

[UnitedWarrior93]

I don't think this is the way the club imagined it being reported …


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bit of a hit job imo. Overall I thought (for geelong crowd) the participation was good. Thought they could have done it ina more polished way but at times the effect worked well. I could see a White out scarf thing being just as good. The down side was the way Geelong played ..and its put a bit of smell on everything about that game

Meh, it's just the standard headline from rubbish journalism. A 'laughing stock', c'mon, turn it up. I though it was great, looked fantastic too and when Geelong came out it had a real 'feel' to it, it's just our team didn't show up on the night, but had they, could you imagine the headlines?

"Electric atmosphere of white turns it on in Geelong as they down Lions".

 

[frggr]

Every time we play Brisbane Harris Andrews destroys us. Back when Hawkins was playing and worse now with Neale. Tonight was typical and was accentuated by slow movement into the forward 50 and often bombed in. Neale would run under the ball and Andrews would protect the drop zone and mark the ball, hardly contested because Neale had already taken himself out of the contest. Andrews had 12 intercepts including 10 marks. He killed us. Andrews is on the slow side so Neale just needs to lead early and give a target. But tonight Neale just stood at center half forward with his hands stretched out like Frankenstein's monster. Surely that's a forward coaching problem. Who is the forwards coach?

And if he didn't do that, he'd milk a free kick claiming Neale held him or whatever.

Was absolutely infuriating

 

[Play it Sam]

And if he didn't do that, he'd milk a free kick claiming Neale held him or whatever.

Was absolutely infuriating

The delivery to Shannon was puerile, repetitive, definition of insanity and so disadvantageous to him.
Then when he got a chance, he missed with stinkers, and that's on him. Not alone x 6.
Someone pointed out he's a man mountain that should be aggressively smashing them.
But seems a bit unco, like many big young blokes. Andrews experienced.

 

[Mr Meow]

The delivery to Shannon was puerile, repetitive, definition of insanity and so disadvantageous to him.
Then when he got a chance, he missed with stinkers, and that's on him. Not alone x 6.
Someone pointed out he's a man mountain that should be aggressively smashing them.
But seems a bit unco, like many big young blokes. Andrews experienced.

Maybe an unpopular opinion but I think we should've kicked to Neale less and all of Dangerfield, Cameron and Stengle more. Just because of the Andrews factor.

Neale's attacking output wasn't shocking - he had an equal game-high 8 score involvements - but Andrews intercepts and spoils started most of their slingshot chains. We need to put work into nullifying his impact and keeping him away from long kicks to contests.

 

[Play it Sam]

Maybe an unpopular opinion but I think we should've kicked to Neale less and all of Dangerfield, Cameron and Stengle more. Just because of the Andrews factor.

Neale's attacking output wasn't shocking - he had an equal game-high 8 score involvements - but Andrews intercepts and spoils started most of their slingshot chains. We need to put work into nullifying his impact and keeping him away from long kicks to contests.

Bringing ball to ground is one thing, straight up out marked another when the ball isn't sitting right, or he isn't ready.

You're right, to nullify Andrews and take Shannon off being the target, would have to be part of the plan as time wore on. The problem being that all of those players were being worn like jumpers. Bris defensive fast hands, intent and luck, and dare we say A+ for homework.

 

[Tony Barber]

Maybe an unpopular opinion but I think we should've kicked to Neale less and all of Dangerfield, Cameron and Stengle more. Just because of the Andrews factor.

Neale's attacking output wasn't shocking - he had an equal game-high 8 score involvements - but Andrews intercepts and spoils started most of their slingshot chains. We need to put work into nullifying his impact and keeping him away from long kicks to contests.

I'm sure the coaches are across it. But maybe having Neale lead to a flank when the ball was going to come through the middle might have worked.
But Andrews is bloody good. Just like Stewart. He would have worked it out.

Pure and simple, it was our kicking that killed us. I cant remember the last time we kicked like that. Has to be 10 years plus.

 

[Mr Meow]

I'm sure the coaches are across it. But maybe having Neale lead to a flank when the ball was going to come through the middle might have worked.
But Andrews is bloody good. Just like Stewart. He would have worked it out.

Pure and simple, it was our kicking that killed us. I cant remember the last time we kicked like that. Has to be 10 years plus.

Agreed.

I said during the game that it felt like our worst kicking effort (field and goal) in many years.

I accept that Brisbane had something to do with that, but we were one of the very highest rated kicks in the comp heading into this, and should’ve done better.

 

[Catsace]

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I thought when watching the replay that the Lions player actually hit the ump, not MOC.

 

[Vdubs]

Agreed.

I said during the game that it felt like our worst kicking effort (field and goal) in many years.

I accept that Brisbane had something to do with that, but we were one of the very highest rated kicks in the comp heading into this, and should’ve done better.

As CS said, it was not typical of our play this year, an outlier. Unlikely we play like that again. Friday night was only a disaster for Friday night
If we do, trouble.
Objectively, Lions are full of guns in their MF and stocked with talent all over.,

 

[Mr Meow]

As CS said, it was not typical of our play this year, an outlier. Unlikely we play like that again. Friday night was only a disaster for Friday night
If we do, trouble.
Objectively, Lions are full of guns in their MF and stocked with talent all over.,

One of my concerns is that over the last 3 times we've played Brisbane - outside of that brilliant second quarter of the prelim - our small forwards and Dempsey have been shut down and erratic.

Their scoreboard impact over those 3 full games:

Mannagh*: 1 goal, 0 goal assists, 7 score involvements
Miers: 3 goals, 1 goal assist, 12 score involvements
Stengle: 0 goals, 2 goal assists, 14 score involvements
Dempsey: 2 goals, 1 goal assist, 14 score involvements
Close: 1 goal, 0 goal assists, 10 score involvements

Totals: 7 goals, 4 goal assists, 57 score involvements

A fair chunk of those goals came in that rampaging preliminary final 2nd quarter.

That output is seriously down on what they usually give us. Brisbane's small defenders are all over us. Our point of difference gets nullified each time.

We expect a tough battle in the midfield, yes. But it's been disappointing how our "usually guns" group of small forwards have performed.

*2 games

 

[Tony Barber]

One of my concerns is that over the last 3 times we've played Brisbane - outside of that brilliant second quarter of the prelim - our small forwards and Dempsey have been shut down and erratic.

Their scoreboard impact over those 3 full games:

Mannagh*: 1 goal, 0 goal assists, 7 score involvements
Miers: 3 goals, 1 goal assist, 12 score involvements
Stengle: 0 goals, 2 goal assists, 14 score involvements
Dempsey: 2 goals, 1 goal assist, 14 score involvements
Close: 1 goal, 0 goal assists, 10 score involvements

Totals: 7 goals, 4 goal assists, 57 score involvements

A fair chunk of those goals came in that rampaging preliminary final 2nd quarter.

That output is seriously down on what they usually give us. Brisbane's small defenders are all over us. Our point of difference gets nullified each time.

We expect a tough battle in the midfield, yes. But it's been disappointing how our "usually guns" group of small forwards have performed.

*2 games

In the prelim I remember thinking. "We won't win this centre bounce". And then they blocked the corridor.
The exact same thing happened on Friday.

And I thought Stanley started well.

 

[Mr Meow]

In the prelim I remember thinking. "We won't win this centre bounce". And then they blocked the corridor.
The exact same thing happened on Friday.

And I thought Stanley started well.

Do you agree about the small forwards and Dempsey though? Usually so prolific and dynamic. Against Brisbane they genuinely look out of ideas, or panic when they get their opportunities.

 

[cats_09]

Maybe an unpopular opinion but I think we should've kicked to Neale less and all of Dangerfield, Cameron and Stengle more. Just because of the Andrews factor.

Neale's attacking output wasn't shocking - he had an equal game-high 8 score involvements - but Andrews intercepts and spoils started most of their slingshot chains. We need to put work into nullifying his impact and keeping him away from long kicks to contests.

Not sure that should be an unpopular position - it really shouldn’t have mattered if it was Cameron or Neale matched up against Andrews, once Payne was out & then Gardner being a late out, we should have had pretty clear instructions that Andrews oppoponent was to essentially sacrifice their game to take him away from the contest

If the situation presented where Andrews was then going to drop off to play as the loose, start looking to go through his man to make him accountable while having enough awareness to also look at other options

 

[Mr Meow]

To add to my point, the AFL Player Ratings from Friday night had just one Geelong starting forward (Cameron) in the top 30 players on the ground.

Brisbane had 6 defenders in the top 30.

 

[Jumping Jack]

The match report on the AFL site named Smith as Geelong’s best player.

Were they drunk - stoned - or both ???

 

[And_ROOS]

Maybe an unpopular opinion but I think we should've kicked to Neale less and all of Dangerfield, Cameron and Stengle more. Just because of the Andrews factor.

Neale's attacking output wasn't shocking - he had an equal game-high 8 score involvements - but Andrews intercepts and spoils started most of their slingshot chains. We need to put work into nullifying his impact and keeping him away from long kicks to contests.

I actually think in games like this we need to engineer a match up of OHenry on Andrews and tell him to sit behind him and try to take mark of the year on him with every f50 entry.
The games he does best in are games on a tall forward, and where he struggles is where he is on a medium forward who can outpace him but also match him in the air.

 

[Play it Sam]

I actually think in games like this we need to engineer a match up of OHenry on Andrews and tell him to sit behind him and try to take mark of the year on him with every f50 entry.
The games he does best in are games on a tall forward, and where he struggles is where he is on a medium forward who can outpace him but also match him in the air.

We can sum up all this: Henry couldn't save us.
The entries were duds, the options were covered, small forwards and Dempsey stifled, they nullified any of our forward defensive pressure with fast hands, and had a game plan to suit our ground and spin us out. Pressure made us indecisive with hacked delivery everywhere, midfield holes and absolutely no run or luck.
When we did get it, we missed. C'est la vie, we'd better learn for next time. Oh, and pick an aqua blue T shirt.

 

[Max10]

In the context of things I’m not disappointed. Brisbane came to play and they did. I just feel with the game plan we have set out, that our home ground is not the place to execute it. That place is the MCG. We bank the next wins and prime ourselves for a good shot come finals

 

[geelong_crazy26]

Was it the chicken or the egg??

nothing brisbane did was different to what other sides have tried to do. As much as the commentators carried on it was the same idea just with a better execution.
As Scott put it, “they came out and did exactly what we expected them to do”.

They tried hard to stifle our run and carry on turnovers, especially from the back half.

Was this a result of their defending or our transition being a touch off??

I would argue we were more off.

I go back to that collingwood game who imo applied more pressure than brisbane did, yet we ran in huge waves thru them with slick hand passes.

it’s often about that 80-100m play.

You need to be switched on with sharp hands to get that 2,3,4th chain going thru with speed and precision to then break over the wall of defense and cause some damage. If you only get that first 1-2 links going before you are forced to bomb if long, it often goes straight to the oppositions wall.

I think the difference between that 3-4th link and getting that penetration over the wall is often the difference in that 2% sharpness and willingness to back yourself in a little with calculated risks.

If you are a little off with skills or fumbles… it will look like the opposition has “pressured you”, but often it’s a combination of both you off and the opposition on.

The way we lacked any run or dare with linking and kicked it straight down their throats, fumbles and drops all night… I would say we were off.

Some have also said it was slippery.. which doesn’t suit us historically with this game plan

 

[Vdubs]

The match report on the AFL site named Smith as Geelong’s best player.

Were they drunk - stoned - or both ???

Just based on stats i suspect

 

[Pollywaffle]

Was it the chicken or the egg??

nothing brisbane did was different to what other sides have tried to do. As much as the commentators carried on it was the same idea just with a better execution.
As Scott put it, “they came out and did exactly what we expected them to do”.

They tried hard to stifle our run and carry on turnovers, especially from the back half.

Was this a result of their defending or our transition being a touch off??

I would argue we were more off.

I go back to that collingwood game who imo applied more pressure than brisbane did, yet we ran in huge waves thru them with slick hand passes.

it’s often about that 80-100m play.

You need to be switched on with sharp hands to get that 2,3,4th chain going thru with speed and precision to then break over the wall of defense and cause some damage. If you only get that first 1-2 links going before you are forced to bomb if long, it often goes straight to the oppositions wall.

I think the difference between that 3-4th link and getting that penetration over the wall is often the difference in that 2% sharpness and willingness to back yourself in a little with calculated risks.

If you are a little off with skills or fumbles… it will look like the opposition has “pressured you”, but often it’s a combination of both you off and the opposition on.

The way we lacked any run or dare with linking and kicked it straight down their throats, fumbles and drops all night… I would say we were off.

Some have also said it was slippery.. which doesn’t suit us historically with this game plan

I guess these sort of results just show the fine line between rooster and feather duster in the modern game.