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Good news, my friend received a letter from them today... wanting more information.
The information they want was something that she submitted at the time of her application and was told it wasn't necessary.:drunk:
She is just laughing about it now as she is pretty easy going.
 
JackOutback said:
If I choose not to participate in this nonsense, do I get a refund on my taxes paid? Or is everything just a one way street with you?
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You still have to work for the dole and leave no stone unturned in trying to find a job otherwise its not fair on other tax payers who have never been on the dole .

People on a wage have to work , why shouldn't people on the dole ?
 
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geelong_crazy26 said:
The idea that learning soft skills such as working in a team , taking orders ,being in a working routine and turning up on time is less helpful than watching day time tv is nonsense .

It also makes life less comfortable for people on the dole and provides an incentive to leave no stone unturned to getting a job .

I am in the top tax bracket so I pay a lot of tax and I expect people on newstart to leave no stone unturned in looking for a job .
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Work for the dole schemes do not provide sustainable work opportunities.

Work for the dole schemes increase the length of joblessness for those conscripted into them.

Like them or not, those are facts.

If the facts don't fit your worldview, you alter your worldview.
 

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FredLeDeux said:
Work for the dole schemes do not provide sustainable work opportunities.

Work for the dole schemes increase the length of joblessness for those conscripted into them.

Like them or not, those are facts.

If the facts don't fit your worldview, you alter your worldview.
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What facts ?

Sorry your the one that doesn't like the facts that 31% of all scheduled meetings for people on dole do not get attended . These people are too lazy to go to a 20 minute meeting every 4 weeks .
 
FredLeDeux said:
Do some basic research.
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I have spoken to the minister in charge of Centrelink many times Alan Tudge , he is friends with my dad . I know the situation well .

Part of the problem and its not all of it but you get all these young people studying art degrees which is usually being taught by some Marxist and they end up thinking they are soo smart but its a degree that does not lead to many jobs . Their egos wont left them perform a basic job .
 
geelong_crazy26 said:
I have spoken to the minister in charge of Centrelink many times Alan Tudge , he is friends with my dad . I know the situation well .

Part of the problem and its not all of it but you get all these young people studying art degrees which is usually being taught by some Marxist and they end up thinking they are soo smart but its a degree that does not lead to many jobs . Their egos wont left them perform a basic job .
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That would be the Marxist-indoctrinated Arts Graduate, Alan Tudge, I assume.

Gawdelpus.
 
FredLeDeux said:
And recent events show how smart he is as a lawyer, don't they?
Perhaps he didn't bother attending his lectures on contempt of court because they were taught by one of your imaginary Marxists.
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The human services portfolio is a position given to an up and coming superstar , he will soon be a very senior member of the liberal party .

He is doing a very good job with these cashless welfare cards .
 
Up and comers in the Libs don't get social services, just like they don't get education, in a Liberal government those are loser portfolios nobody likes. This is demonstrated by the fact that no marks like Tudge, and Birmingham are left to push shit up hill.
 
Gough said:
Up and comers in the Libs don't get social services, just like they don't get education, in a Liberal government those are loser portfolios nobody likes. This is demonstrated by the fact that no marks like Tudge, and Birmingham are left to push shit up hill.
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Who was the last social services minister ?
 

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Here's an unsolicited thought for the day. Say if there were a person who worked full time to get a ~median income, this person would have to use all (pre-tax) of their ~median income to pay off a loan for a ~median house over ~ten years, if we add on whatever rape charge (compound interest) the bank dreams up, this period of time will be longer. If we then think a bit more realistically and only look at the post tax, the period of time increases.

If we then add on the exorbitant arse-raping cost of power (in a country where we export the natural resources that are coming out of the country's arseh*le - for the government and big business to get filthy rich!), and the exorbitant cost of our tax-paid NBN (to get 0.03Mb/s). As the person is working full time the person will be unable to claim hardship and have to pay the full price. Thus, the poor bastard has to work for a longer period of time.

Somehow this hard working individual has to eat, so we need to add on a longer period of time to pay off their loan, and as the person is only buying a median priced house (read as crappy dilapidated shack somewhere in the outskirts) they will need a form of transportation, public or private and therefore add on a longer period of time to pay off their loan. Then there will be furniture etc, maintenance when things go wrong etc adding on a longer period of time. Which increases the rape charge (compound interest), and therefore the actual cost of the house over the longer period of time. Now that the house loan will be over an ~30 year period, this will mean the once ~median house price will actually be 2 x ~median house price.

In effect a person working full time for a ~median income will be paying a fortnightly sum of money for ~30 years (just like rent) to live in a dilapidated shack in the outskirts, and will always have financial issues. The mistake this person is making is working full time. It would make more sense for the person to go on welfare payments, pay rent to live in a dilapidated shack in the outskirts, always have financial issues, yet always be able to claim hardship for health, transport, power etc BUT without any stress of working full time...

There is no incentive to work.
 
geelong_crazy26 said:
I have spoken to the minister in charge of Centrelink many times Alan Tudge , he is friends with my dad . I know the situation well .

Part of the problem and its not all of it but you get all these young people studying art degrees which is usually being taught by some Marxist and they end up thinking they are soo smart but its a degree that does not lead to many jobs . Their egos wont left them perform a basic job .
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Arts students don't go on the dole they just become perpetual Student activists.
 
geelong_crazy26 said:
I have spoken to the minister in charge of Centrelink many times Alan Tudge , he is friends with my dad . I know the situation well .

Part of the problem and its not all of it but you get all these young people studying art degrees which is usually being taught by some Marxist and they end up thinking they are soo smart but its a degree that does not lead to many jobs . Their egos wont left them perform a basic job .
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People like Tudge are more interested in the politics than results (hence the continued support for cashless welfare cards, which have at least been problematic, not that they would ever admit that). If you're listening to him, you're getting a fraction of the story.
 

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JackOutback said:
People like Tudge are more interested in the politics than results (hence the continued support for cashless welfare cards, which have at least been problematic, not that they would ever admit that). If you're listening to him, you're getting a fraction of the story.
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So let me get this correct watching TV and sleeping in will do more to help someone on the dole find a job than attending meetings with their employment agency and working for the dole ?

Work for the dole and meetings with agencies out guys , more day time TV and sleep ins are the way to go for people on the dole .
 
geelong_crazy26 said:
Everyone on long term unemployment should be on it .
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You may want to subtract your like to my post above, as the argument I'm making above is not an argument against welfare, but making a juxtaposition of what rising housing costs have done to the median Australian. I.e. An argument against corporate arse raping.

I was thinking of writing a musical on this. Picture this. There is a child born in Australia in a year that when they reach adulthood they will miss free tertiary education and reasonable house prices.

But at the start of the musical the kid is happy and are singing "give me a home among the gum trees".

This idea of owning a home becomes ingrained in the kids psyche - The Australian Dream.

Then the kid grows up, knows a tiny bit of elementary mathematics, and realises that because of their abysmally incompetent and disgustingly greedy government they will never be able to afford their own patch of land.

This is when we hear the song at the end of the musical "give me a home among the gum trees" yet played at a slower tempo to represent the person's dreams being crushed.

This piece will be viewed as a tragedy, and a reality, for most Australians. But if it screened at parliament, those clowns will be laughing their **** off, thinking it is a comedy, while smoking rolled up wads of cash stuffed with cocaine, and performing other evil and degenerate acts.
 
CakeEater said:
Given the next welfare card trial will be in Kalgoorlie, things should really get interesting now.

Half the town is founded on drinking.
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Appears to be relying on an 'independent report' that drug and alcohol consumption has significantly dropped and spending on gambling has also fallen.

I doubt most of us could comment either way on the legitimacy of said report. But I have noticed on twitter a lot of the left have come out against it.
 

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