Changes V Port

[danzan22]

he had some handy touches late in the game giving us another option in a very blue collar midfield rotation. God help us if the burgoynes, pearce etc get goal side of their opponents. Winderlich was the only bloke who ran the lines for us last week(stants was injured). We need a little more balance in that midfield, as much as i'll be howled down for saying it i'd rather see us give ricky another chance rather than adding another tall to a side loaded with them.

I would not mind seeing ricky come into the team, but it really depends on VFL form.

 

[dave_27]

When did Angus go into the midfield rotation?

And Kepler does give us another option, an option Port will have difficulty in finding an opponent for.

He can play as a midfielder.

An option of what though longy?

His disposal is far from damaging and he's slow.

I dont see what he brings to the table from a midfield point of view.

 

[whirl]

Kepler is not that slow and Stanton is not that quick. Its Stantons engine that is huge.

Most who saw Keps in his younger days thought he'd be best suited to playing as a winger.

Whether the first point is true is up for debate imo. Regardless Stanton is a hell of a lot quicker, and goes that pace for a hell of a lot longer than big Keps so as a direct swap we are definitely losing in that area.

I'm not too sure about your second point either, he did play on the wing as a junior but many, from my recollection, doubted he'd be able to play that role in the AFL.

He's certainly better suited to playing the wing than key back though, as he can find the ball no trouble. However there's a fair chance we'd see the opposition going through his man at every opportunity and that man would find the ball just as much if not more as a consequence. Given Kepler's disposal and decision making skills it's likely we'd be on the wrong end of that bargain.

Kepler's future, should he have one, is going to be forward imho, ruck maybe. If he plays wing then he'll find himself in a role whose highest demands are in areas he's weakest in.

 

[marcuz]

When did Angus go into the midfield rotation?

pretty sure he was playing as a winger/high half forward late in the game.

And Kepler does give us another option, an option Port will have difficulty in finding an opponent for.

He can play as a midfielder.

Yes he can, he can also butcher the footy and turn it over time after time. Bradley, Pev, JJ and watson all rotating through the middle, we should be getting more blokes in that can actually use the footy by foot. Our forwards are having to invent goals becuase our midfield cant give them quality supply, kepler isnt going to help their cause.

 

[bomberrob]

wouldnt make any changes try and keep a steady side,tho if stanton doesnt come up well then we have to but we are pretty close to our best side thats why we are going well.....only really lovett and lovett murray are out ,maybe jetta

 

[Troy Wingate]

We have had a nasty habit of late of running your blokes into form. Tredrea and his mates have this game marked on the calender no doubt.

You guys can breath easy as the guy who usually does the most damage against you guys has retired. Stuart Dew.

Past histories between clubs has meant jack crap this year. Hawthorn hadn't beaten us for 5 years, and they smacked us. We had won 10 games straight against Carlton, they smacked us. Geelong hadn't won a single game against either Port or the Crows for premiership points in 7 years, they smacked us and beat the Crows today.

I'm sure Kevin Sheedy and his boys are ready to make up for the Power ruining Sheed's 800th game last year when we won by 10 goals at the Dome.

 

[GmeUP]

Stats isn't everything mate.

Might not be everything but they are definitely something, you can't win a footy match without scoring and you can't score without the ball. With alot of our guys struggling to find the pill giving Houli a crack in a likely open run game wouldn't be a terrible idea.

 

[Daytripper]

An option of what though longy?

His disposal is far from damaging and he's slow.

I dont see what he brings to the table from a midfield point of view.

Kepler is not that slow.

Gives us an option of a tall wingman who can go forward and provide other options if needed.

Kepler plays his best football when he doesn't have to think that much. Playing on the wing can give him that opportunity.

People last year said that Johns was a one trick pony who could only play forward but have a look at what he is doing in defense for Bendigo.

Its worth a punt with Stanton likely to be out.

 

[marcuz]

Kepler is not that slow.

He has all the accelaration of a car up on blocks with its hand brake on.

Gives us an option of a tall wingman who can go forward and provide other options if needed.

A tall ,slow wingman who does his best work hitting opposition players on the chest isnt going to help much. The guy is a decent back up if Scotty or Lloyd get injured.

Its worth a punt with Stanton likely to be out

Swap stanton with bolton and i might agree with you but kepler brings absolutely nothing to the table other than some comic relief when we're getting pantsed by a much faster and skilled unit. We arent going to beat them for run and speed but we need to at least compete.

 

[Daytripper]

He has all the accelaration of a car up on blocks with its hand brake on.



A tall ,slow wingman who does his best work hitting opposition players on the chest isnt going to help much. The guy is a decent back up if Scotty or Lloyd get injured.



Swap stanton with bolton and i might agree with you but kepler brings absolutely nothing to the table other than some comic relief when we're getting pantsed by a much faster and skilled unit. We arent going to beat them for run and speed but we need to at least compete.

You're very harsh on him, marcuz.

We'll agree to disagree.

 

[Longy413]

An option of what though longy?

His disposal is far from damaging and he's slow.

I dont see what he brings to the table from a midfield point of view.

He wouldn't come in as a midfielder, but he could pinch hit there if need be.

Monfries gives us nothing in the middle.

pretty sure he was playing as a winger/high half forward late in the game.

High half forward yes, midfielder or winger, no.

And Kepler is perfectly suited to the high flanker role, because he can run and he can mark. He has good hands.

Yes he can, he can also butcher the footy and turn it over time after time.

So can Monfries, Monfries disposal has been well below par this season.

Even his goal was a shank on the weekend.

Our forwards are having to invent goals becuase our midfield cant give them quality supply, kepler isnt going to help their cause.

Kep is a very good long kick of the footy. If he's instructed to kick the ball long and he carries out those instructions, Lloyd and Lucas will have a field day.

 

[marcuz]

You're very harsh on him, marcuz.

We'll agree to disagree.

I have no problem having him in the side but his role can't be as a free wheeling midfielder. The guy is a poor man's earl Spalding and thats the role he needs to play. Hard working CHF/HFF who provides a forward option for the more skillful guys to run off.

 

[Daytripper]

I have no problem having him in the side but his role can't be as a free wheeling midfielder. The guy is a poor man's earl Spalding and thats the role he needs to play. Hard working CHF/HFF who provides a forward option for the more skillful guys to run off.

I think he's a poor mans Andrew Embley. He's much more mobile than Spalding ever was.

 

[marcuz]

And Kepler is perfectly suited to the high flanker role, because he can run and he can mark. He has good hands.

that doesnt help the defeciancy we currently have in the midfield, i have no problem with him playing that role but winders needs a running mate.

So can Monfries, Monfries disposal has been well below par this season.

It may have been but thats the exception rather than the rule, Kepler is a dodgy kick 80% of the time.

Kep is a very good long kick of the footy. If he's instructed to kick the ball long and he carries out those instructions, Lloyd and Lucas will have a field day

Lloyd and scotty are leading forwards, they both prefer the ball out in front(i bet they miss Joey) and if we set up like we did last week then there will be nobody there to pick up any spillage.

 

[marcuz]

I think he's a poor mans Andrew Embley. He's much more mobile than Spalding ever was.

very poor, so poor he's bankrupt and his missus has taken off with the gardner.

 

[GmeUP]

very poor, so poor he's bankrupt and his missus has taken off with the gardner.

Classic

 

[Longy413]

Lloyd and scotty are leading forwards, they both prefer the ball out in front(i bet they miss Joey) and if we set up like we did last week then there will be nobody there to pick up any spillage.

Lloyd and Lucas are great marks of the footy full stop.

They both proved that, the reason they are so good is because they aren't just leading forwards.

Lloyd only kicked on of his three goals from a mark on the lead on the weekend.

Lucas two.

If you give them an opportunity to mark the ball one out, they'll win more contests than they lose and they both proved that on Friday night.

Kepler can spot up long targets, he's a very good long kick of the footy. It's when he kicks short on the back step that he struggles.

 

[Daytripper]

Classic

There's no need to suck up to the mods.

 

[marcuz]

Lloyd and Lucas are great marks of the footy full stop.

They both proved that, the reason they are so good is because they aren't just leading forwards.

Lloyd only kicked one of his three goals from a mark on the lead on the weekend.

Lucas two.

Says more about the delivery than their play dont you think? ask them how the prefer the footy to be driven forward and i know what their answer would be.

Kepler can spot up long targets, he's a very good long kick of the footy. It's when he kicks short on the back step that he struggles

Again ihave no problems playing keps but someone else needs to come in to give us some balance. I suppose the question is is anybody available?

 

[marcuz]

There's no need to suck up to the mods.

Brown nosing will get you everywhere....especially on bigfooty.

 

[silk]

I would be happy for Kepler to come in for Laycock, but not as a replacement for stanton, who runs his arse off all game, and will be sorely missed if out.

Monfries needs to spend more time up forward then he has been, as he is much more damaging in front of goals.


I would bring in longergan, or hislop for stanton..

 

[Longy413]

Says more about the delivery than their play dont you think? ask them how the prefer the footy to be driven forward and i know what their answer would be.

It's a bit like asking if you'd prefer to receive one million dollars or two millions dollars.

One million is still pretty damn good, but two is better.

As long as you get it in quick and long they're happy and they're given a chance.

Again ihave no problems playing keps but someone else needs to come in to give us some balance. I suppose the question is is anybody available?

I'd replace Kepler with Monfries, that doesn't effect our balance in the slightest.

Stanton will play, if he doesn't, we look at another kid.
Hislop.

 

[Longy413]

Monfries needs to spend more time up forward then he has been, as he is much more damaging in front of goals.

No way.

Monfries cuts into space often enough as it is, without running back out of it.

I wouldn't want him getting into Lloyd or Lucas's way.

 

[marcuz]

It's a bit like asking if you'd prefer to receive one million dollars or two millions dollars.

One million is still pretty damn good, but two is better.

As long as you get it in quick and long they're happy and they're given a chance.

Lets see how happy they are when port frees up Chad cornes to sit in front of Lloyd all game. both boys will need to get on their bikes and lead up.

I'd replace Kepler with Monfries, that doesn't effect our balance in the slightest.

Stanton will play, if he doesn't, we look at another kid.
Hislop.

I havent seen a lot of Hislop but from what i hear he sounds like a slightly more polished JJ. Is another inside hard nut what we need?

 

[Darealrath]

I havent seen a lot of Hislop but from what i hear he sounds like a slightly more polished JJ. Is another inside hard nut what we need?

If we're bringing in Bradley for Monfries I'd definately like to see Stanton replaced with a runner like Nash, Dyson or even Houli.