Changes v Swans!!

[Longy413]

No, Howlett hasn't been playing a tagging role.

That's what Welsh does and he's been doing it pretty well, other than a stinker Anzac day. He's been averaging close to 20 disposals a game doing it.

His disposal might not be neat as Howlett, but he finds more of it and can do a stopping job.

Yep, Howlett has shown a bit and I really like him but I want to win games of footy and I don't want to carry a midfielder who drifts in and out of games. He can find that form at Bendigo. Welsh or Dyson or even Reimers for that matter do more than Howlett.

Yes, I think any three of them would have done more than Howlett against the Bulldogs.

He's a rookie and to get six games into him has been great. If he gets another go I'm sure he'll show some more good signs. But I don't think it's unreasonable for anyone to suggest he could be dropped because he hasn't been doing a lot.

 

[Red Black and Blue]

Howlett was in our top 5 players against Richmond, had a down week, but still wasn't disgraced. IIRC Zaharakis had poor games against Richmond and St.kilda, came out and played a crucial part against the doggies. No point making changes for the sake of it, if Lonergan is injured he should be the only other change except for the suspended Fletch.

 

[13bombers]

You think Welsh would have done any better against the doggies?? i dont think he would have. howlett has played about 5-6 games ? shows quite a bit and its only normal that he will have good and bad games. get some games into him i say. Also hasnt howlett been playing a bit of a tagging role?? taggers dont normally rack up the possies...

Slattery is a spud and shouldnt even be in the team. That is all.

im gonna have to side with longy. too many people are treating howlett like a 18 year old draft pick. hes about 22 already and has a well hardened body, should be doing more than the 'norm' that anyone one of our other players can provide and less consistently, he doesnt particulary stand out to me and he doesnt deserve a game in front of a lot of people who are waiting.

 

[Yoda_]

http://www.bom.gov.au/nsw/forecasts/sydney.shtml

Sunday A few showers.
City: Min: 12 Max: 18

Forecast rain, does this mean we bring in another tall? I dont think so..

Keep it simple:

INS: Tyson Slattery, Andrew Welsh

OUTS: Dustin Fletcher (Suspended), Sam Lonergan (Ommited)

T.Slattery is able to play tall (189cm) and has a good tank. I think this would be a good game to bring him in. Certainly be a tester against such a quality front half that is the sydney swans.

Whilst Andrew Welsh is Vice Captain which apparently gives you a free ride to the seniors. Could also see a host of others to come in but do not think that many changes will be made.

 

[ghostdog]

http://www.bom.gov.au/nsw/forecasts/sydney.shtml

Sunday A few showers.
City: Min: 12 Max: 18

Forecast rain, does this mean we bring in another tall? I dont think so..

Keep it simple:

INS: Tyson Slattery, Andrew Welsh

OUTS: Dustin Fletcher (Suspended), Sam Lonergan (Ommited)

T.Slattery is able to play tall (189cm) and has a good tank. I think this would be a good game to bring him in. Certainly be a tester against such a quality front half that is the sydney swans.

Whilst Andrew Welsh is Vice Captain which apparently gives you a free ride to the seniors. Could also see a host of others to come in but do not think that many changes will be made.

Cheers HFF
So many people have been singing the praises of T Slattery and with Fletcher out it's a good opportunity to give the guy a run. I wouldn't be disappointed to see him elevated, mostly because I'd rather see Hurley forward. How good is it to be in a situation where even with Fletcher and Hooker out we can look to a bloke like Hurley or Ryder (and hopefully T Slattery) with the knowledge that they'll be proficient back there.

On the Welsh v Howlett debate, I can see both sides but I don't think Welsh plays consistently enough to warrant a walk up start. Howlett may fade in and out of games but Welsh does this from game to game. He seems to me to rise to the occasion of playing a top side (Collingwood the exception) and that playing on a bloke like Judd or Hasleby or Ablett brings out the best in him. Welsh has been out for weeks now and I simply can't seem him going straight into the team and hitting his stride on gameday.

FWIW Lonergan I thought was savage at times v Dogs and could be given the lock-down role Welsh plays. Howlett should be given the chance to play on for now. Dyson, from the reports I've read, should probably stay at Bendigo to find some form again first.

 

[anf06]

Out: Fletcher (susp) Lonergan
In: Williams, Welsh

 

[Super Gusto]

I'd be suprised if Williams gets a game at the smaller SCG, I don;t think it would suit his game.

I don't agree with this but I think the changes will be

Out: Fletcher, Howlett
IN: Welsh, H Slattery

What I would like the changes to be considering Fletcher is susp is

Out: Fletcher
In: T Slattery

 

[Longy413]

Howlett was in our top 5 players against Richmond, had a down week, but still wasn't disgraced. IIRC Zaharakis had poor games against Richmond and St.kilda, came out and played a crucial part against the doggies. No point making changes for the sake of it, if Lonergan is injured he should be the only other change except for the suspended Fletch.

Of course he wasn't disgraced.
But he has been very quiet either side of the Richmond game and even though he was good against Richmond, it wasn't a brilliant game.

There is no point of making changes for the sake of it, but replacing a bloke who is inconsistent with his form with guys who were playing consistent football before they were injured, isn't making a change for the sake of it, it's making a change to improve the side.

Yep, Zaka was down on form, but had no obvious replacement and has qualities Howlett doesn't have. Had Reimers been available for selection at the time, a change might have been an option.

 

[hank31]

I'd be suprised if Williams gets a game at the smaller SCG, I don;t think it would suit his game.

I don't agree with this but I think the changes will be

Out: Fletcher, Howlett
IN: Welsh, H Slattery

What I would like the changes to be considering Fletcher is susp is

Out: Fletcher
In: T Slattery

Do you think Hank is in our best 22? I personally dont now McVeigh is playing that role, he is also playing it better.. I wanna know what the general point of view on Hank is. Is he likely to be a walk up start once fit?

 

[hank31]

Oh and BTW, i watched the replay of the game against WBD on Fox last night, anyone calling for ATKO's head is ****ing nuts!

 

[Hencho]

INS: T.Slattery, Welsh
OUTS: Fletcher (susp), Lonergan

I personally don't think Welsh deserves a walk up start but he'll get it given he's vice captain. Lonergan for mine offers toughness in the forward line but with Jetta, Davey and Zaka locking it in I can't see much use for Lonergan.

 

[anf06]

Edit: If Slattery is fit;

Out: Fletch, Lonergan
In: Slattery, Welsh

Absolutely, Slatts comes straight back in.

 

[hank31]

Edit: If Slattery is fit;

Out: Fletch, Lonergan
In: Slattery, Welsh

Absolutely, Slatts comes straight back in.

Strongly Disagree!

 

[beev]

Edit: If Slattery is fit;

Out: Fletch, Lonergan
In: Slattery, Welsh

Absolutely, Slatts comes straight back in.

Strongly Disagree!

Second that

 

[Gautama]

Oh and BTW, i watched the replay of the game against WBD on Fox last night, anyone calling for ATKO's head is ****ing nuts!

Would just like to reinforce this from a neutrals perspective. Myers and Jetta have finally played some good games and they're apparently guns but Atkinson is still a fringe player despite not putting a foot wrong all year! I know he wasn't a high draft pick but if any of these three has come good, it's Atkinson

 

[BomberTime]

Edit: If Slattery is fit;

Out: Fletch, Lonergan
In: Slattery, Welsh

Absolutely, Slatts comes straight back in.

What??? He is not good enough to walk straight back into this team after missing 3 weeks especially when the team has won those 3 matches and we have guys playing really well down back. No Slatts please!

 

[Red Black and Blue]

replacing a bloke who is inconsistent with his form with guys who were playing consistent football before they were injured, isn't making a change for the sake of it, it's making a change to improve the side.

Yep, Zaka was down on form, but had no obvious replacement and has qualities Howlett doesn't have.

Probably disagree with Welsh, Dyson's and Reimers form line. IMO fairly similar to Howlett's.

Howlett averages 4.7 clearances a game (2nd on our list), 6 tackles (equal 2nd), 9 contested possessions (6th). I think he is actually an important cog in the middle already. His ability to close space in a limited time, has been a highlight over the last few weeks, and a key part of why we have stifled opposition midfields.

 

[Longy413]

Yep, like I said.
He's been good.

Just wouldn't be surprised if he got dropped and don't think it's completely unjustified.
And I'm surprised others are surprised that he's a candidate to go down.

Welsh and Dyson were very consistent before they went out. Dyson especially so.
Top five in the B&F after Round 5, I'm sure of it.

 

[Red Black and Blue]

Welsh and Dyson were very consistent before they went out. Dyson especially so.
Top five in the B&F after Round 5, I'm sure of it.

From memory, I thought Dyson had been consistent, but half a step down from his form last year.