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BrizzyBlue said:
Appartently Caroline Wilson was pumping up Bluey McKennas tyres on Footy Classified last night. We don't see that up here in Bris Vegas. Anybody see it?
That lines up a bit with my contacts info about the betting on the new Coach. I also hear that Sticks fancies Ratts, Swannie fancies McKenna, just don't know who is the Voss advocate. Big Dick maybe? ;)
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Either one of these blokes would do very nicely.
Great read as well BrizzyBlue. :thumbsu: :thumbsu:
 
AlecDuncan said:
I'm not worthy. I wasn't aware that they'd mixed things up since the start of the year. Why did they do that?
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I first noticed it during the Crows game. They were aadressing different groups.

Braddles and Ratts with the mids, Gav with the forwards, and Libba with the defenders.

Not sure if they swap at training though.:)
 
Bluebear said:
I first noticed it during the Crows game. They were aadressing different groups.

Braddles and Ratts with the mids, Gav with the forwards, and Libba with the defenders.

Not sure if they swap at training though.:)
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Does TD do any coaching on match days? Can't say that I have noticed him around the club on match days recently.
 

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ozserpico66 said:
With regards to the Fevola trade scenarios I suggest you go to the Fiction board :rolleyes:

You will get a low First round pick at best
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Given Collingwood were able to get pick 8 & Paul Medhurst (admittedly they traded a first round pick somewhere in the deal as well) for Tarrant, a forward who averages less than 2 goals per game over his entire career, I would think that Fevola would be worth a bit better than pick 8 & an inconsistent player like Paul Medhurst. If Fevola is to be traded, the club should not settle for anything worse than at least pick 5.
 
BrizzyBlue said:
Appartently Caroline Wilson was pumping up Bluey McKennas tyres on Footy Classified last night. We don't see that up here in Bris Vegas. Anybody see it?
That lines up a bit with my contacts info about the betting on the new Coach. I also hear that Sticks fancies Ratts, Swannie fancies McKenna, just don't know who is the Voss advocate. Big Dick maybe? ;)
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Interesting.....saw Vossy talking to the Collingwood recruiting team today....perhaps Voss to the pies replacing McKenna who goes to carlton?
 
DIG said:
While I agree, other clubs are far more likely to offer draft picks for Fev than gun 20-24 year olds on their list - they just won't give em up. The player trade market has been getting thinner each year.

Unless someone who fits the bill is desperate to come back to Melbourne, or a club is willing to sacrifice a midfielder to get a FF, we're realistically looking at a first and second round pick for Fev, but 9 and 26 is too low - through a 3way we should be able to demand a top 6 pick and a 2nd within the top 20.

It's important too that even if we do give up on Fev, we preach publicly that he is a "required player" "under contract" etc so we don't lose any bargaining power. He has to get his act together the rest of the year if he wants to continue his AFL career - be it with us or elsewhere.

5 picks in the top 25 thru a Fev trade and priority pick would still be awesome.
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Fev is potentially a 100 goal FF in a good side. They're like gold thus you pay through the nose if you want them. For players like that you trade a gun for a gun not a speculative draft pick (don't want anything like Hamill for pick 4.......Livington..remember!). You can't replace those guys in a draft. Trade preferably for a KP forward or defender (eg Reiwoldt/Rutten/Glass). Unless you get Judd don't worry about a midfield trade. We need a KP defender alot more and this is a good chance to get one. A midfielder's more easily picked up in the draft than a KP player. If no-one wants him then he's under contract and we keep him.

Personally, I'd prefer to keep him.
 
Interesting but I'm definately not even half-way convinced.

If there is a leak from CFC then that is bad news that it would be leaked to a half wit who would post all future operations on the net?

And I am pretty sure from good word if Denis leaves CFC, Fev will be running back in the door at Prince's Park.
I think Fev has his differences with the whole coaching squad who i believe are goons bar ofcourse Ratts & Braddles.
 
Bentick's My Man. said:
Interesting but I'm definately not even half-way convinced.

If there is a leak from CFC then that is bad news that it would be leaked to a half wit who would post all future operations on the net?

And I am pretty sure from good word if Denis leaves CFC, Fev will be running back in the door at Prince's Park.
I think Fev has his differences with the whole coaching squad who i believe are goons bar ofcourse Ratts & Braddles.
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Out the back door you mean?
Pagan is the ONLY reason Fev is still at the club. Period.
If it wasnt' fer Dennis Fev would be tearing it up for a VFL side......or maybe he would have lost all motivation and be doing something else......either way, he was gone at the end of Brittains coaching stint (Funny how no-one claimed "Britts has lost the players......." despite winning our first spoon:rolleyes:)

If Pagan sees fit to get rid of him then its his only friend I'm afraid.
 
Bluebear said:
Out the back door you mean?
Pagan is the ONLY reason Fev is still at the club. Period.
If it wasnt' fer Dennis Fev would be tearing it up for a VFL side......or maybe he would have lost all motivation and be doing something else......either way, he was gone at the end of Brittains coaching stint (Funny how no-one claimed "Britts has lost the players......." despite winning our first spoon:rolleyes:)

If Pagan sees fit to get rid of him then its his only friend I'm afraid.
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Source?
 
Bluebear said:
Out the back door you mean?
Pagan is the ONLY reason Fev is still at the club. Period.
If it wasnt' fer Dennis Fev would be tearing it up for a VFL side......or maybe he would have lost all motivation and be doing something else......either way, he was gone at the end of Brittains coaching stint (Funny how no-one claimed "Britts has lost the players......." despite winning our first spoon:rolleyes:)

If Pagan sees fit to get rid of him then its his only friend I'm afraid.
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I wasn't arguing the fact that Denis saved his career at Carlton but he didn't do a hell of a lot until Denis took over.

I'm saying that Brendan is now unhappy under the management of Pagan, Libba and co.

Thats why I believe if Pagan goes, Fev will stay.
I think Fev wants to leave for a new coach, if anything.
 

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BrizzyBlue said:
If the bottom end of the ladder was to finish with Richmond below us (Likely Spoon), Melbourne winning a couple more games, which they should, the rest of the ladder remain in the same order (unlikely also) and we don't win any more (likely), then this would be the order of picks before trades:

Priority Pick
Carlton.....1

Round 1
Richmond...Pick 2
Carlton...Pick 3
Melbourne...Pick 4
Brisbane...Pick 5
St.Kilda...Pick 6
Fremantle...Pick 7
Sydney...Pick 8
Port Adela...Pick 9
Essendon...Pick 10
W Bulldogs...Pick 11
Adelaide...Pick 12
Kangaroos...Pick 13
Collingwood...Pick 14
Hawthorn...Pick 15
West Coast...Pick 16
Geelong...Pick 17

Priority Pick
Richmond....18

Round 2
Richmond....19
Carlton......20

Now if we trade Fev to the Tiggies lets say for Pick 2 & Pick 18/a player, then we would end up with Pick 1, 2, 3, 18/a player, 20, 36 etc. There are many computations depending on where teams finish, how many games they win and of course trades. ;)
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I'm not sure what makes you think the Tiggies would be so interested in Fev...
but if they were I'd say Polack + Foley/Lids/Cogs would go a long way to easing my pain of losing Fev...much more than draft picks anyway...
 
HBF said:
Does TD do any coaching on match days? Can't say that I have noticed him around the club on match days recently.
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I've noticed him in the pre-game warm ups pushing Fev around when he runs on leads
 
HBF said:
No Yoss, it was on Ch.10's news. And Prattys wife said she was looking forward to hosting his 92nd birthday next year.
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I'm still at the office, so haven't seen the news.

DP also had me thinking Pagan not Pratt...
 

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BrizzyBlue said:
If the bottom end of the ladder was to finish with Richmond below us (Likely Spoon), Melbourne winning a couple more games, which they should, the rest of the ladder remain in the same order (unlikely also) and we don't win any more (likely), then this would be the order of picks before trades:

Priority Pick
Carlton.....1

Round 1
Richmond...Pick 2
Carlton...Pick 3
Melbourne...Pick 4
Brisbane...Pick 5
St.Kilda...Pick 6
Fremantle...Pick 7
Sydney...Pick 8
Port Adela...Pick 9
Essendon...Pick 10
W Bulldogs...Pick 11
Adelaide...Pick 12
Kangaroos...Pick 13
Collingwood...Pick 14
Hawthorn...Pick 15
West Coast...Pick 16
Geelong...Pick 17

Priority Pick
Richmond....18

Round 2
Richmond....19
Carlton......20

Now if we trade Fev to the Tiggies lets say for Pick 2 & Pick 18/a player, then we would end up with Pick 1, 2, 3, 18/a player, 20, 36 etc. There are many computations depending on where teams finish, how many games they win and of course trades. ;)
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I loved your OP BrizzyBlue, but I honestly think your trades are a bit out mate. Richmond are already a club that is under pressure for poor trading and they have now acknowledged that they are in a re-building phase. They would be flogged unmercifully if they traded away pick 2. Especially if was to acquire Fev when they already have Richo:D

If Fev does go then it will be to a team challenging for the finals over the next few years, that has a strong leadership group, has the depth to trade a decent player and desperately needs a key forward. There are a couple of teams that fit the bill, but would they be able to offer enough to get a deal over the line?

We are unlikely to get a deal which would cover his playing loss due to his baggage:o Which perhaps means that he could stay despite the signs pointing otherwise and HBF's good point about Fev being our Richo.

Lots of possible scenarios the post season will be full of fun and games:D
 
Bentick's My Man. said:
I wasn't arguing the fact that Denis saved his career at Carlton but he didn't do a hell of a lot until Denis took over.

I'm saying that Brendan is now unhappy under the management of Pagan, Libba and co.

Thats why I believe if Pagan goes, Fev will stay.
I think Fev wants to leave for a new coach, if anything.
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How do you know that? Fev has always been the one player to publicly support Pagan.
 
Well one part of the plan is coming to fruition! :cool:
BrizzyBlue said:
The Great Coaching Standoff: My sources tell me that Dick/Swannie/Icke are amazed at how this situation was allowed to develop. How Smorgo/Malouf/Sticks either were responsible for the fiasco or at least turned a blind eye to the situation. I can reveal that it is about to cease. Don’t wet ya kimbies just yet. There are some difficult contract/legal issues to resolve first, but the ball is in motion. Firstly they are definite about a Carlton reserves team next year. This will do a number of things. Firstly, kids playing in the magoos will be playing roles that the Senior Coach needs for their development. Secondly, they will play half of their games at PP under the watchful eye of our Coaches.
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