News Coaching Thread: The Hardwick Era

[ajsars]

Don't rate Hinckley as a coach as highly as some other people. Really hoping for a new coach with some new ideas

 

[Stroppy]

Evans said that he had spoken with Rocket during the season and Rocket asked to be told at the point when any decision had been made (renew or not renew).
Board ticked off the decision to look for a new coach on Monday.
Rocket was told Monday, in person, by Evans. As previously agreed.

Move along, nothing to see here.

PS. No easy way to move on from players and coaches who want to stay. Getting it done at the point it becomes official is a reasonable way to do it since it allows the club to actively look for a new coach. If Rocket was gone but not told, club could not in good faith start looking for a new coach.

 

[Bazza37]

question - given Rocket's success in turning around our culture, and given that this was imo his primary objective, what are the odds of this anyways being the plan? that is, bring in Rocket to sort our shit out, then replace him with X when new coach and club are ready? maybe we've had our new coach locked in, in principle, for some time?

Did Eade really change the culture ????


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[Suns of Anarchy]

im currently hearing hinkley is coming with voss or lade to take over at port

I'm hearing that we are about to embark on a national search & an extensive process to find John Barker...........

 

[SandyToes]

Evans said that he had spoken with Rocket during the season and Rocket asked to be told at the point when any decision had been made (renew or not renew).
Board ticked off the decision to look for a new coach on Monday.
Rocket was told Monday, in person, by Evans. As previously agreed.

Move along, nothing to see here.

PS. No easy way to move on from players and coaches who want to stay. Getting it done at the point it becomes official is a reasonable way to do it since it allows the club to actively look for a new coach. If Rocket was gone but not told, club could not in good faith start looking for a new coach.

I promise you 3 weeks would have made no difference to who coaches next year and who knows, 3 decent performances may have changed some minds re extending Eade

 

[Cold Sober]

Pardon the intrusion but IMO the man for the job is Simon Lloyd the current Cats director of coaching, has a similar pedigree to Chris Fagan. The bio below is a few years old but he has experience in some diverse roles, he is also now a level 4 coach.

Simon Lloyd

DOB:17/09/1970

Playing record:
Carlton Under 19s
- Captain 1988-1989
Williamstown (VFA) 1990-1994
- Vice-captain, 87 games
- P'Ship 1990, R/U 1992
Avondale Heights Football Club 1996-1999
- Captain Coach, 80 games

Coaching record:
Avondale Heights (EDFL) 1996-1999
- Assistant Coach 1998; Coach 1999
- Vic. Metro Senior Rep. Team Captain/Asst. Coach 1998
- Vic. Metro Senior Rep. Team Coach 1999
- EDFL Senior Representative Team Captain/Coach 1998-1999
Hawthorn 1999-2004
- Club Psychologist
- Box Hill Hawks Asst. Coach (VFL)
- Player Development Manager/Development Coach
Collingwood High Performance Manager/Club Psychologist 2005-2009
Fremantle Senior Development Coach 2010-

Simon has a Bachelor of Arts (Psychology), a Graduate Diploma in Applied Psychology (Organisational), a Master of Applied Psychology (Sport), is a registered psychologist and is a Level 3 Accredited coach.

Thank you for the application Mrs. Lloyd.

 

[Mini GF]

BScott firmed from $4.50 to $4 this morning

Barker moved out from $2.60 to $2.75

Another mover is SDew to be equal with Solomon at $7

 

[SunnerSS]

Maybe skavs mail was correct? Eade might have been told Monday night that he would not be coach next year but the club wanted him to stay on as director of coaching or head of football or something. Rocket slept on it and decieded he wanted to return to Melbourne or retire?

 

[ajsars]

If we end up with B Scott I'm be very disappointed

 

[Big Red Machine]

Did Eade really change the culture ????


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You're joking right?

Since Eade took over we haven't had any players on the front page of the Courier Mail doing a line of ****ing cocaine.

 

[SandyToes]

You're joking right?

Since Eade took over we haven't had any players on the front page of the Courier Mail doing a line of ******* cocaine.

And we haven't got any players fidgety about re-signing
May Lynch and Swallow all re-inked under Rocket

 

[Fat Pizza]

Brad Scott has come in from $41 to $6 to coach Suns in the last 6 hours , that's a lot of money , a leak perhaps?


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How big is the betting pool? It might not take much to move the market.

 

[Cold Sober]

Is it right I heard norf say they wouldn't stand in scotts way, if true he would surely already have the swimmers packed in the bag.
I would be looking at Ratten if Bomber is off the market.

 

[Reign Man]

I wouldn't assume that everyone would want this job - could be a poisoned chalice, particularly for a new coach. The successful applicant would have to relocate family to the GC and chances are you'll most likely be sacked and probably never get another crack at it.

 

[SunsBhoy]

I wouldn't assume that everyone would want this job - could be a poisoned chalice, particularly for a new coach. The successful applicant would have to relocate family to the GC and chances are you'll most likely be sacked and probably never get another crack at it.

Gee you sound like a fun bloke.

 

[Cochblocked]

I wouldn't assume that everyone would want this job - could be a poisoned chalice, particularly for a new coach. The successful applicant would have to relocate family to the GC and chances are you'll most likely be sacked and probably never get another crack at it.

So if you might fail it's not worth trying? Great outlook on life.

 

[Mini GF]

How big is the betting pool? It might not take much to move the market.

Yeah they don't show the pool like with horse races

 

[PREETY_FLY]

im currently hearing hinkley is coming with voss or lade to take over at port

Source like a link?


Koshi wouldn't allow Hinkley to go anyway .

 

[vide0n]

I wouldn't assume that everyone would want this job - could be a poisoned chalice, particularly for a new coach. The successful applicant would have to relocate family to the GC and chances are you'll most likely be sacked and probably never get another crack at it.

Re: getting the sack that's pretty much the same situation that every prospective coach faces when joining a club where someone has been given the axe for underperforming?

Biggest point of difference is that our chairman has a public profile and makes comments that most would keep to themselves... If that's a deal breaker for anyone, they don't really want to be a coach. Clarko had to deal with Kennett.

 

[Reign Man]

So if you might fail it's not worth trying? Great outlook on life.

What I'm saying is if you're sought after applicant you might want to wait for a better opportunity. As a first time coach you generally only get one crack at it. I think the job is more appealing for a proven coach or a first timer who's not likely to get a crack at another job.

 

[Cochblocked]

What I'm saying is if you're sought after applicant you might want to wait for a better opportunity. As a first time coach you generally only get one crack at it. I think the job is more appealing for a proven coach or a first timer who's not likely to get a crack at another job.

But there aren't ever any perfect openings. Clubs sack coaches for a reason unless a horrible event such as Phil Walsh's death happens and a top club like Adelaide becomes available your going to have to take a risk. I know i have a bias but i think coaching GC would be one of the best coaching jobs. Young list, not held back by too much history, great spine, quick players and lack of media pressure you might find a Collingwood.

 

[SandyToes]

The only way this decision will be validated is if Suns play finals next year
Possibly the new coach with a decent injury list may just do that but I think it was wrong to use Rocket as a scapegoat

 

[SandyToes]

The only way this decision will be validated is if Suns play finals next year
Possibly the new coach with a decent injury list may just do that but I think it was wrong to use Rocket as a scapegoat

Presumably if we still haven't played finals in 3 years we'll be onto the next coach?

 

[nutstar]

Where's Skav? I'd like to know what happens next, if there's anyone with their finger on the pulse, it's him.

 

[Supersuns]

Where's Skav? I'd like to know what happens next, if there's anyone with their finger on the pulse, it's him.

Dusty to Suns, along with Clarkson?