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Analysis Collingwood Coaching Panel 2016

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We have head coach Bucks - C

Burns and Harvey are in charge of midfield - B

Hart in charge of backline - C



As you can see there is no dedicated coach for the forwards, we can only assume and because Bucks has experience looking after forwards under Mick, that he has taken it upon himself to be responsible for the forwards alone.

Problem is he has to look after the game itself and I think this is where he can improve as a coach, gameday strategies and plans, he seems to be reactive rather than pro active and having multiple gears and know how to own the footy and work for each other as a single cog.


So because of our poor performances by our forwards, especially on the weekend, I'm looking squarely at Bucks.

1. Because he has not appointed a dedicated senior gameday coach

and

2. Because he has presumably taken it upon himself to be in charge of the forwards and they have been poor.



Anyway, I think we have shown glimpses this year of greatness, they just need their bodies a bit bigger and we might give it a shake.


Also I don't like how Bucks has changed players roles too often, such as Crisp the last couple of weeks having Greenwood back.
Having Langdon in the forward half vs Richmond, what was that about?

I don't like our game plan either, falling off your man and letting them get over the top easily is a horrible style and has us give away too many goals in red time because they are stuffed.

They need to understand the clock of the game and understand how to control periods within a quarter and feel when the opposition is lifting intensity and absorb it, then when they tire lift our own above them.
But if they don't work back hard enough and force them wide, then we will never be a good team.

I give these coaches and this team 2 more seasons, if I don't see pushing and getting close to top 4 then those C's and B's might become F's.
 

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Why is this titled 2016 when all you talk about is the current panel (incorrectly) and have no input on who or what should be in place going forward? All I am reading is that you don't like how Buckley coaches, which is fine but I am pretty sure there is a dedicated thread full of like minded individuals opinions.
 
We have head coach Bucks - C

Burns and Harvey are in charge of midfield - B

Hart in charge of backline - C



As you can see there is no dedicated coach for the forwards, we can only assume and because Bucks has experience looking after forwards under Mick, that he has taken it upon himself to be responsible for the forwards alone.

Problem is he has to look after the game itself and I think this is where he can improve as a coach, gameday strategies and plans, he seems to be reactive rather than pro active and having multiple gears and know how to own the footy and work for each other as a single cog.


So because of our poor performances by our forwards, especially on the weekend, I'm looking squarely at Bucks.

1. Because he has not appointed a dedicated senior gameday coach

and

2. Because he has presumably taken it upon himself to be in charge of the forwards and they have been poor.



Anyway, I think we have shown glimpses this year of greatness, they just need their bodies a bit bigger and we might give it a shake.


Also I don't like how Bucks has changed players roles too often, such as Crisp the last couple of weeks having Greenwood back.
Having Langdon in the forward half vs Richmond, what was that about?

I don't like our game plan either, falling off your man and letting them get over the top easily is a horrible style and has us give away too many goals in red time because they are stuffed.

They need to understand the clock of the game and understand how to control periods within a quarter and feel when the opposition is lifting intensity and absorb it, then when they tire lift our own above them.
But if they don't work back hard enough and force them wide, then we will never be a good team.

I give these coaches and this team 2 more seasons, if I don't see pushing and getting close to top 4 then those C's and B's might become F's.

Research - F

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Don't need a coke addled has been whom imported the personnel that gave Essendon the most entertaining ASADA/WADA saga.
 
We have head coach Bucks - C

Burns and Harvey are in charge of midfield - B

Hart in charge of backline - C



As you can see there is no dedicated coach for the forwards, we can only assume and because Bucks has experience looking after forwards under Mick, that he has taken it upon himself to be responsible for the forwards alone.

Problem is he has to look after the game itself and I think this is where he can improve as a coach, gameday strategies and plans, he seems to be reactive rather than pro active and having multiple gears and know how to own the footy and work for each other as a single cog.


So because of our poor performances by our forwards, especially on the weekend, I'm looking squarely at Bucks.

1. Because he has not appointed a dedicated senior gameday coach

and

2. Because he has presumably taken it upon himself to be in charge of the forwards and they have been poor.



Anyway, I think we have shown glimpses this year of greatness, they just need their bodies a bit bigger and we might give it a shake.


Also I don't like how Bucks has changed players roles too often, such as Crisp the last couple of weeks having Greenwood back.
Having Langdon in the forward half vs Richmond, what was that about?

I don't like our game plan either, falling off your man and letting them get over the top easily is a horrible style and has us give away too many goals in red time because they are stuffed.

They need to understand the clock of the game and understand how to control periods within a quarter and feel when the opposition is lifting intensity and absorb it, then when they tire lift our own above them.
But if they don't work back hard enough and force them wide, then we will never be a good team.

I give these coaches and this team 2 more seasons, if I don't see pushing and getting close to top 4 then those C's and B's might become F's.
You may need to recruit a research specialist
 
We have head coach Bucks - C

Burns and Harvey are in charge of midfield - B

Hart in charge of backline - C



As you can see there is no dedicated coach for the forwards, we can only assume and because Bucks has experience looking after forwards under Mick, that he has taken it upon himself to be responsible for the forwards alone.

Problem is he has to look after the game itself and I think this is where he can improve as a coach, gameday strategies and plans, he seems to be reactive rather than pro active and having multiple gears and know how to own the footy and work for each other as a single cog.


So because of our poor performances by our forwards, especially on the weekend, I'm looking squarely at Bucks.

1. Because he has not appointed a dedicated senior gameday coach

and

2. Because he has presumably taken it upon himself to be in charge of the forwards and they have been poor.



Anyway, I think we have shown glimpses this year of greatness, they just need their bodies a bit bigger and we might give it a shake.


Also I don't like how Bucks has changed players roles too often, such as Crisp the last couple of weeks having Greenwood back.
Having Langdon in the forward half vs Richmond, what was that about?

I don't like our game plan either, falling off your man and letting them get over the top easily is a horrible style and has us give away too many goals in red time because they are stuffed.

They need to understand the clock of the game and understand how to control periods within a quarter and feel when the opposition is lifting intensity and absorb it, then when they tire lift our own above them.
But if they don't work back hard enough and force them wide, then we will never be a good team.

I give these coaches and this team 2 more seasons, if I don't see pushing and getting close to top 4 then those C's and B's might become F's.

There are obviously problems but I don't think this nails it.

Earlier in the year our young backline was lauded for the job it was doing in restricting scoring. I don't think Hart's coaching dropped off so much as young bodies became tired. I'd also add that the lack of midfield defensive pressure sent a maelstrom of shit down on the defenders.

To that midfield issue I'd suggest that our young ruck combination, especially with Grundy holding the mantle, made us tender prey. When an opposition ruck dominates the ruck contest so clearly, the mids are caught betwixt and between.

The underlying fact for me is the youth and therefore the capacity to run out games let alone a full taxing season.
 

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If we don't have a specialized ruck coach for these guys it's pretty inexcusable really.
Didn't I read somewhere that Peter Moore may be helping out in that area (at least with advice and what not) but the club can't formally hire him as it would have to go under the player salary cap because he's Darcy's Dad?
 
Didn't I read somewhere that Peter Moore may be helping out in that area (at least with advice and what not) but the club can't formally hire him as it would have to go under the player salary cap because he's Darcy's Dad?

Considering Peter Moore was in America or something for his job when Darcy Moore was about to debut I doubt it.
 
I wouldn't mind seeing us employ a ruck coach.

It's staggering, IMO.

A little insight I can provide for anyone wondering why Grundy kicks in hope from stoppages instead of farming it out to release smalls. Well it's because that's what he's been instructed to do by the coaching group...
 

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It's staggering, IMO.

A little insight I can provide for anyone wondering why Grundy kicks in hope from stoppages instead of farming it out to release smalls. Well it's because that's what he's been instructed to do by the coaching group...

It's a recipe for scrappy rather than quality clearances. I guess we are backing our forwards to lock it in and reset? A good rebounding team will kill us.
 
It's a recipe for scrappy rather than quality clearances. I guess we are backing our forwards to lock it in and reset? A good rebounding team will kill us.

That's my understanding of the thought process. This then feeds into our desire to flood the next contest with numbers to pressure the opposition and maintain a territorial advantage.
 
I wouldn't mind seeing us without Harves as our midfield coach. We've been one paced in there ever since he took over.
We need a new broom in the mids.....Ratten? Ling?
 
We kick straighter this season and we are a lock for the 4. Would have only lost 3 games. ( possibly not even those we would be so up.)
Hire a hypnotist, a Surveyor, a with doctor...who cares, so long as they can get us kicking goals rather than points.
Batteries, jumper cables and wet sponges...don't care.
Make em kick straight.
 
I wouldn't mind seeing us without Harves as our midfield coach. We've been one paced in there ever since he took over.
We need a new broom in the mids.....Ratten? Ling?
Not sure we'd see Brett r leave hawthorn any time soon, he'd need lots of time to feel ready to just come back.
Ling? Unsure if he wants to leave his gig as commentator, unsure why the boom on him as coach, but then again he could be very good.
Harvey comes across as very thoughtful so unsure what the gripe is about him?
Sanderson and Nathan are best mates maybe he'll come in to support the coaches
 

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