List Mgmt. Collingwood Trade Talk 2016

[Rusty Beam]

People have to get Wright out of their heads, won't be happening.

Yep, already signed a 1 year extension for next year on top of his 2 year draftee contract.

Suns would demand top 10 pick (possibly top 5 pick) as well and Witts' value isn't anywhere near that vicinity.

 

[No SPIN]

I agree with everyone else, Wright would be awesome.

But thanks for drafting De Goey, Hine, looks a winner........lol

You're the bloke that called him an ELITE player in the making - so how fickle are you

 

[Medders123]

What are your thoughts on Gary Rohan?
He's got serious pace, and is pretty good defensively. He would add another dimension to our midfield. He's 25, time is on his side to recapture his best.
He also is a free agent at the end of next year. Therefore Sydney may want to deal now, in order to get more than the compensation they'd receive if he were to leave next year.

 

[Soups]

What are your thoughts on Gary Rohan?
He's got serious pace, and is pretty good defensively. He would add another dimension to our midfield. He's 25, time is on his side to recapture his best.
He also is a free agent at the end of next year. Therefore Sydney may want to deal now, in order to get more than the compensation they'd receive if he were to leave next year.

If we could get Rohan and keep him on the park it would be immense for our side IMO. It would be like having two Varcoe's. It could be a pretty risky signing he breaks down a bit like Marsh, whenever he seems like he's getting a good run injury hits.

 

[TradeDraft]

If we could get Rohan and keep him on the park it would be immense for our side IMO. It would be like having two Varcoe's. It could be a pretty risky signing he breaks down a bit like Marsh, whenever he seems like he's getting a good run injury hits.

and that is without Donavorn have a Go at Him

 

[Chrispiesssss]

Cam Ellis-Yolmen? He played quiet well last year, and can't get a look in with Adelaide's immense midfield. He dominates the SANFL most weeks. Would be worth a look.

 

[The_Anvil]

Yep, already signed a 1 year extension for next year on top of his 2 year draftee contract.

Suns would demand top 10 pick (possibly top 5 pick) as well and Witts' value isn't anywhere near that vicinity.

Spot on. Not to mention Nicholls would be ahead of him in the pecking order. Witts isn't entertaining a trade to a northern state to play Neafl.

 

[soreplums]

Brisbane second rounder would be handy

 

[SApies]

Cam Ellis-Yolmen? He played quiet well last year, and can't get a look in with Adelaide's immense midfield. He dominates the SANFL most weeks. Would be worth a look.

I definitely would bring him in. Wouldn't cost much. Played really well under Walsh, didn't get a go under Camporale and hasn't been given the go under Pyke. The only thing is we have a few big bodied strong midfielders.

 

[Scodog10]

Cox....? Wyatt....?
Spencer is a waste of a spot on a senior list.

Wyatt? He's more likely to be delisted at years end than ever playing a senior game...

 

[Baltimore Jack]

People have to get Wright out of their heads, won't be happening.

Some people confuse real life recruiting with their Super Coach Team

 

[jc37]

Peter Wright 12 games 15 goals vs Mason Cox 10 games 15 goals. Not sure we need 2 meter peter. Cox has lots of improvement in him both as a Ruck and full forward. I am remember reading a while back we are interested in Caleb marchbank.

 

[Apex36]

Peter Wright 12 games 15 goals vs Mason Cox 10 games 15 goals. Not sure we need 2 meter peter. Cox has lots of improvement in him both as a Ruck and full forward. I am remember reading a while back we are interested in Caleb marchbank.

You're talking about a 20 year old vs a 25 year old though, who happens to be a freak of nature.
15 goals from 12 games is very good, and the kid has a ton of development left in him.
No idea why people think that GC would contemplate letting him go given he's contracted though.

 

[legendstatus]

Here we go... time for another hate on De Goey session

This isn't a hate of JDG, I've seen enough to know that we made a monumental mistake in picking him at 5, was never overly thrilled with the highlight reel (and remember that's generally where we get excited) when I saw them. Was big on PW and having him & Moore would have given us bookends for the next 10 years.

Midfields are a dime a dozen. Hine blew it this time.

 

[loki04]

You're the bloke that called him an ELITE player in the making - so how fickle are you

Opinions change.

JDG is a solid pick in terms of getting a good player. But the questions over his ceiling (and consequently his draft rating) are a valid discussion.

Not sure why people get so worked up over footy discussion.

No one is calling him s**t or a bust, all they are questioning is what special talents does he possess to warrant his top 5 pick in the draft.

Yes he is a second year player and very well likely could come out next year and make us all look very silly for questioning why he was taken so early. But right now it is an interesting discussion point.

 

[Vicky Park]

Do we really need another midfielder? We can't fit all the mids we have in the team, so we play some out of position, and then tend to criticise their performance. So we start talking again about the need for more and better midfielders. We seem to be on a midfielder merry-go-round.

 

[frizzle]

You're talking about a 20 year old vs a 25 year old though, who happens to be a freak of nature.
15 goals from 12 games is very good, and the kid has a ton of development left in him.
No idea why people think that GC would contemplate letting him go given he's contracted though.

But your talking about someone who has been playing footy all their life to someone who hadn't touched a football just a couple of years ago.
Cox is considerably taller & should have at least as much room for development if not more. But you are correct GC will want to develop Wright themselves.
I'm happy to hang on to Cox.

There I said it.

 

[Apex36]

But your talking about someone who has been playing footy all their life to someone who hadn't touched a football just a couple of years ago.
Cox is considerably taller & should have at least as much room for development if not more. But you are correct GC will want to develop Wright themselves.
I'm happy to hang on to Cox.

There I said it.

Yeah, hence the freak of nature bit. There's no denying that Cox has plenty of development in him too, I just think it's a bit of an unfair comparison given that 2MP will physically be a vastly different beast at the age of 25, just as I'm sure Cox is a much different prospect to what he would have been 5 years ago.

I'd love to have both of them, but I can't see it happening given he's contracted, unless something dramatic happens and he needs to get back to Victoria. My biggest concern though would be that a forward line of Moore, Cox and Wright might be too top heavy. I haven't seen a massive amount of Wright this year, but he never struck me as a particularly mobile player.

 

[Quicky]

Do we really need another midfielder? We can't fit all the mids we have in the team, so we play some out of position, and then tend to criticise their performance. So we start talking again about the need for more and better midfielders. We seem to be on a midfielder merry-go-round.

Given we are one of worst clearance teams in the competition and our skills by foot are depressingly bad, I think its an important discussion. And given our best midfielders are up there with the best in the game, some scrutiny should be on the second tier. We desperately need them to be performing better.

 

[Bay Pie]

Opinions change.

JDG is a solid pick in terms of getting a good player. But the questions over his ceiling (and consequently his draft rating) are a valid discussion.

Not sure why people get so worked up over footy discussion.

No one is calling him s**t or a bust, all they are questioning is what special talents does he possess to warrant his top 5 pick in the draft.

Yes he is a second year player and very well likely could come out next year and make us all look very silly for questioning why he was taken so early. But right now it is an interesting discussion point.

In a trade thread ? Surely could be kept in the JDG thread.

I'd love a buck for every hindsight draft pick change or ditching a youngster after 20 games or less, but then wanting another teams youngster when he plays a couple of good games.

My god BF has become more and more fickle as the years roll on.

Draftees are drafted on what they can be in 4 to 5 years time. Most experts don't expect much until they've played around 50 games, then you see where they are at. Let the kids develop before you want to ditch them for someone else.

 

[Scodog10]

In a trade thread ? Surely could be kept in the JDG thread.

I'd love a buck for every hindsight draft pick change or ditching a youngster after 20 games or less, but then wanting another teams youngster when he plays a couple of good games.

My god BF has become more and more fickle as the years roll on.

Draftees are drafted on what they can be in 4 to 5 years time. Most experts don't expect much until they've played around 50 games, then you see where they are at. Let the kids develop before you want to ditch them for someone else.

Nope as fickle as ever. Your tolerance levels have just dropped as the results have plummeted...

 

[loki04]

In a trade thread ? Surely could be kept in the JDG thread.

I'd love a buck for every hindsight draft pick change or ditching a youngster after 20 games or less, but then wanting another teams youngster when he plays a couple of good games.

My god BF has become more and more fickle as the years roll on.

Draftees are drafted on what they can be in 4 to 5 years time. Most experts don't expect much until they've played around 50 games, then you see where they are at. Let the kids develop before you want to ditch them for someone else.

I didn't start the discussion in here on him, just weighed in on it.

Yes we get it he is very young likely having 2nd year blues and is likely to be a good player for us.

No one wants to trade him, people are merely surmising was/is he worth what we paid and was there a better option.

Why get all worked up over it?

 

[BPikkers]

I see alot of upside in JDG. He is only into his second year and has plenty of development. He has shown he can clear and is strong and hard at it.
He has some improvement in terms of being a little cleaner with the ball etc, but I'm happy with the way he's developing.

I get the impression some feel a pick at 5 should be a superstar from the first year.

In terms of trading, we need more run/speed particularly out of the backline, as well as some key position players to develop.

Cox will only ever be a player who sits in the forward line and does some relief rucking. We need a genuine forward to partner with Moore.

 

[Cory]

If we could get Rohan and keep him on the park it would be immense for our side IMO. It would be like having two Varcoe's. It could be a pretty risky signing he breaks down a bit like Marsh, whenever he seems like he's getting a good run injury hits.

Davoren will be licking his lips to ruin another player.

 

[loki04]

Do we really need another midfielder? We can't fit all the mids we have in the team, so we play some out of position, and then tend to criticise their performance. So we start talking again about the need for more and better midfielders. We seem to be on a midfielder merry-go-round.

Yep we need to fill the specialist positions with class and xfactor types.

Seems to be a bit of an obsession having 15 mids in the 22 these days.