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The moment it was written and sent to every club it was guaranteed to be leaked. NM would know that was 100% before they hit the send button and would have made the decision to send with that knowledge.
 
Colby Cheer Squad said:
How sure are you that all he did was send text messages? Because that's all you read in the media?
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Honestly after everything I’ve read in the past few weeks about coercion and other forms of abuse, the whole text message thing is landing differently than it did.
 
Jen sent the email on May 1st.

If we were going to be the ones to leak it, we would have leaked it on May 1st.

9 days have passed. This leak 100% didn't come from NMFC.
 
Chadwiko said:
Jen sent the email on May 1st.

If we were going to be the ones to leak it, we would have leaked it on May 1st.

9 days have passed. This leak 100% didn't come from NMFC.
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Probably not but it doesn't matter. It was 100% going to be leaked - by who matters little.
 
giantroo said:
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He still doesn't get it. The issue was the language he chose - specifically, that Tarryn is a "good person".

This language is problematic because it effectively reduces the behaviour and removes accountability. How often do we hear "he's a good bloke, he was just having a bad day" or "he's not a bad guy, he was just stressed..." etc?

He's not a good person, just like every other perpetrator is not a good person, and too often we tend to try and separate the behaviour from the person to try and salvage them. Brad can support Tarryn however he likes in private and no one is saying he shouldn't receive support or counselling, but Brad saying shit like he did in public is a slap in the face to any victim of domestic violence.
 
DEVO said:
For me it should read Teams, besides North's current woes:
My English soccer team, Carlisle were relegated winning only 7 of 46 games. :(
My Scottish soccer team, Ross County is currently in a relegation battle. :(
And my NRL team, Parramatta are in the bottom 6 and only 4pts off the bottom. :(

It has been a really depressing 2024 to date with only one or two moments of joy. :(
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giantroo said:



theage.com.au


Roos unable to ‘meaningfully change’ Tarryn Thomas’ behaviour: CEO’s email to rival clubs​


Sam McClure

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An email sent by North Melbourne chief executive Jennifer Watt to her 17 club counterparts about sacked player Tarryn Thomas has laid bare the club’s frustration over their repeated attempts to rehabilitate him.

In the email sent on May 1, and seen by this masthead, Watt said the Kangaroos had been unable to change Thomas’ behaviour. Thomas, who was banned for 18 matches by the AFL for inappropriate behaviour towards women, had completed four different behavioural programs before being sacked by the club once the league’s ban was announced.

Former North Melbourne midfielder Tarryn Thomas at a training session at Arden Street last year.

Former North Melbourne midfielder Tarryn Thomas at a training session at Arden Street last year.Credit: AFL Photos

The email was addressed to West Coast CEO Don Pyke, who wrote to the AFL last week to urge the league to take a united stand against the prevalence of gender-based violence, amid growing community outrage about the killing of women in 2024; a woman has been killed violently on average every four days.

Watt wrote to Pyke and the other club chiefs to express her gratitude for Pyke’s leadership on the issue of violence against women.

“[North Melbourne president] Sonja [Hood] and I have been talking a lot about this, especially in light of the recent challenges we faced with Tarryn Thomas,” Watt wrote in the email.

“We were struck by just how hard it was to find programs to support behaviour change. And this was for someone with considerable resources and support around them.

“We eventually found a combination of programs for Tarryn. Even though Tarryn ended up completing four different programs which included an extensive combination of education, therapy and participation-style programs, we were not able to meaningfully change his behaviour.”

Watt said there was a “need for broad reform” and North Melbourne would “support an industry initiative”.

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Watt and Thomas’ manager, Ben Williams, declined to comment when contacted on Wednesday.

Thomas, 24, has to complete another education course at his own expense before the league will consider allowing him to be registered to play again, but he cannot return to the AFL in 2024 due to the timing of his suspension.

Thomas was suspended by North Melbourne in 2023 and charged by police over his Instagram message to his then-girlfriend in 2022 during an argument, asserting he had distributed intimate videos of the two of them. Thomas was initially charged with threatening to distribute an intimate image, which was later dropped and replaced with a charge of using a carriage service to harass. That charge was discontinued on the condition that Thomas make a $1000 donation to the court fund.

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Police have not charged Thomas for any of the subsequent incidents from 2024 that led to his AFL suspension. An AFL integrity unit investigation had found that Thomas “engaged in multiple acts of misconduct including threatening a woman via direct messages multiple times”.

Pyke received immediate backing from large sections of the football industry for his suggestion that the AFL take a united stand against the prevalence of gender-based violence.

“I’m not suggesting we’ve got all the answers,” Pyke said of the AFL and the clubs. “We’ve got to be part of the solution.

“The numbers are quite staggering when you look at them.”

Three club chief executives, who declined to speak publicly due to the sensitive nature of the issues, said they were surprised that Watt had referred to Thomas in her response after Pyke had written about violence against women in broad terms.


The AFL did not mention Thomas last week when it announced a league-wide stand on violence against women, in which players, coaches and umpires formed a circle for a minute’s silence before all nine games in round eight. Senior coaches also read a statement before their respective post-match media conferences.

Watt’s email came less than a month after comments by Geelong coach Chris Scott who, when asked about Thomas, said the club was “open-minded” about the recruitment of any player.

Chris’ brother, former North Melbourne and now Essendon coach Brad Scott, was criticised last week when he spoke about Thomas, having coached him at the Kangaroos.

“The reality is that there are people from privileged backgrounds who have had every opportunity in life, and there are others who haven’t,” Scott said.

“People will make mistakes and as a leader, as a coach and as a parent, the responsibility is to have people learn from those mistakes. And they will make mistakes at different stages, and we’ve got to lead by example.

“In Tarryn’s case, my view is one of support.”

Jimmy Bartel says he feels apprehensive with the prospect of former Kangaroo Tarryn Thomas re-entering the AFL next year.

Former Geelong champion Jimmy Bartel, who has previously spoken of harrowing ordeals he witnessed as a child, spoke passionately about Thomas and violence more broadly when asked about it on Footy Classified last week.

“So I get your premise of, the AFL, we can lead the charge, we can rehabilitate, we can be a leader in this space,” Bartel said.

“But this whole, forgiveness, try again, try again, is not working. So at some stage, what happened in the past ... we’ve actually got to go a bit more of a different direction. I lean a bit towards more zero tolerance than others because that’s personal to me.

“I’m open to all discussions, but I feel incredibly uncomfortable that we’re gonna have players arm-in-arm, another woman dies ... I just find it very hard.”

If you or someone you know is affected by sexual assault, domestic or family violence, call 1800RESPECT on 1800 737 732.
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privileged background.... what a joke... went to a private school. where i know for a fact he was a bully and all round s**t person, played with North Launceston and was nothing but trouble there . inside knowledge of both .
 
DANMAN said:
privileged background.... what a joke... went to a private school. where i know for a fact he was a bully and all round s**t person, played with North Launceston and was nothing but trouble there . inside knowledge of both .
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I hated that line. Absolutely hated it. It’s elitist and flat out wrong. I know many good people that didn’t come from a privileged background that know how to treat women.
 
Val Keating said:
I hated that line. Absolutely hated it. It’s elitist and flat out wrong. I know many good people that didn’t come from a privileged background that know how to treat women.
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Brad Scott is a ****wit who came from a privileged background.
DANMAN said:
privileged background.... what a joke... went to a private school. where i know for a fact he was a bully and all round s**t person, played with North Launceston and was nothing but trouble there . inside knowledge of both .
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If I what I heard on the weekend is true then he isn't a good person, he's a violent jerk.
 
Are we talking about Scott or TT?

Because I heard from a client who was in the same class as the Scott brothers at St. Kev’s was it? That they were bullies and ‘shitheads’.
Something to the extent of ‘daddy issues’?
 
DocSholl said:
He still doesn't get it. The issue was the language he chose - specifically, that Tarryn is a "good person".

This language is problematic because it effectively reduces the behaviour and removes accountability. How often do we hear "he's a good bloke, he was just having a bad day" or "he's not a bad guy, he was just stressed..." etc?

He's not a good person, just like every other perpetrator is not a good person, and too often we tend to try and separate the behaviour from the person to try and salvage them. Brad can support Tarryn however he likes in private and no one is saying he shouldn't receive support or counselling, but Brad saying s**t like he did in public is a slap in the face to any victim of domestic violence.
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he is 100 percent able to say whatever he likes of his thoughts of tt, i know a lot of good people that have done some pretty ordinary stuff, and if iam to be entirely honest there are a few things i have done over the years that were hardly my finest moments, why he thought it would be a good idea to make a public statement re tt on womens safety week is entirely a different matter.
 
DANMAN said:
privileged background.... what a joke... went to a private school. where i know for a fact he was a bully and all round s**t person, played with North Launceston and was nothing but trouble there . inside knowledge of both .
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I think it's an extremely clumsy way of saying that some boys, through family circumstances, do not have quality male role models who can help embed decent moral values upon them, especially in relation to their interactions with women. Wayne Carey is a classic example.
 
Lets just be honest here.

Brad Scott wants Taryn Thomas because of his football ability. Him saying the crap he did is merely an attempt to soften things should he able to sign him. His sole focus is clearly winning. If Taryn wasn't a potentially elite player who could make his side better, then him and his brother would be the first ones denouncing the possibility of signing him.

In other words they're ignoring the fact they shouldn't sign him because of the long list of shit he has done and amount of chances he has had because they see him as a component to their side winning more football games. The Scott brothers are good at manipulating idiots (aka the media) but anyone with any semblance of common sense and percetiveness can see right through it.

Hopefully the board at his club tells him to STFU and they stay away from Taryn.

Taryn Thomas should not be on an AFL list next year.
 
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