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Originally posted by Stiffy_18
Kane Johnsons is not slow but he was not quick either. Kane Johnson is a footballer. Fullstop. Nick Stevens has pace, Kane Johnson doesn't, I think you know who I would pick out of the 2 ;)
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I would have appointed "Sugar" as the next AFC captain - so you can tell who my vote is for;)
 
Originally posted by Stiffy_18
I think its his football brain and his reading of the play. Last year I have often said that Rutten has this fantastic side to his game where he will run at the bouncing ball and pick it up so well. He just has that footy brain that tells hhim what will happen next. His awareness in ciongested situations is second to none IMHO. When it comes to hadballing in cingested situations he has the quickest pair of hands in our side. His footy brain really is fantastic. I have always said that if we could get Perrie's athletic abiliy and pace and "install" it into Rutten would have a top player.

I know its a big call but IMHO Rutten is one of the smartest footballers on our list if not THE smartest. You can't teach footy smart and Rutten has buketloads of it.
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Which is exactly why we need to find a way to assimilate into our side that also overcomes his lack of pace...we could do with one less dumb footballer in our side...we have plenty.

As I have said before, the lumbering forward can still be potent if the structure is right....look at Sav against Port, he played very well.

Hell, Rutten probably has more pace than Carey has these days...and we've seen how well Carey is using his brain to overcome it...
 
Originally posted by macca23
The one thing that you haven't said about Johnson, or have I missed it, is that apart from being a tough nut, is his incredible usage of the ball. He never wastes a crumb by hand or foot.

We miss him incredibly, as overall, delivery of that standard is not our trademark.
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Seen him a few times with Richmond, I think he must carve a hole in the turf, as he only travels up and down the centre corridor.
Best disposal in the AFC by a mile.
 
Originally posted by Wayne's-World
Then give that very good summation, would you prefer a footy smart player who is slow, and can get and do things with the ball, or a player like Biglands who has good pace for a bigman, but can't get or do anything with the ball.
Is he that much slower (and i have always questioned the boards assessment of his pace)than S.Stevens, and M.Stevens, who IMO arn't that quick either.?
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Give me a slow Footballer rather than athletic dumby. ;)

This is the problemw ith recruting these days. There is TOO much empahisi on athletic ability rather than footballing ability.

Rutten is slower that both Stevos.
 

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Originally posted by macca23
The one thing that you haven't said about Johnson, or have I missed it, is that apart from being a tough nut, is his incredible usage of the ball. He never wastes a crumb by hand or foot.

We miss him incredibly, as overall, delivery of that standard is not our trademark.
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Yeah I mentioned it in one of the earlier posts. He never wasted a possesions. Johnson will hurt you more with his 10 kicks than Burton will with his 30.
 
Originally posted by Stiffy_18
Give me a slow Footballer rather than athletic dumby. ;)

This is the problemw ith recruting these days. There is TOO much empahisi on athletic ability rather than footballing ability.
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I completely agree here, as I said elsewhere, we have too many dumb, poorly skilled footballers under pressure. It is rather simplistic, however I'd prefer it if we tried to recruit more football talent and nous rather than someone who can run and jump like a gazelle but struggles to execute the footy basics.
 
Originally posted by Stiffy_18
Give me a slow Footballer rather than athletic dumby. ;)

This is the problemw ith recruting these days. There is TOO much empahisi on athletic ability rather than footballing ability.
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thats so very true Stiffy.

Id like to see how all you blokes would rate our team in terms of how well each players' disposal is. ie, a 1, 2, 3, 4 so on rank for each player

Purely based on maybe this year and last year.

Id have no idea, So im asking you blokes. :p
 
Originally posted by RaDaR ReiLLy
thats so very true Stiffy.

Id like to see how all you blokes would rate our team in terms of how well each players' disposal is. ie, a 1, 2, 3, 4 so on rank for each player

Purely based on maybe this year and last year.

Id have no idea, So im asking you blokes. :p
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That's a good idea for a thread, my deep thinking assistant. ;)

Hey Stiffy, you wanna get one started??
 

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