Conspiracy Theory Coronavirus #2: Lockdowns

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Id also say that stanning Dan to the level owen has pretty much means you are very very pro-China. Dan has done more for China then Australia at present and is very much a arm of the Chinese govt. There is a reason alot of people refer to him as Xi Andrews

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Never go full Dan

Just alter your Dan levels based on what thread you are posting in. Works well for owen and co

 

[faible]

Im not attributing anything to you?

Ironically enough, all lockdown rules are in the same piece of legislation and just being tact onto the end of it.

In a certain way, yes, in that policies are connected with one another. So for example you cannot believe lockdowns are good but wearing a mask is bad since there is a direct correlation that one event will lead to the other. Once we lockdown, we get out and wear masks for the next few months and then welllll past virus incubation period rules are past. Its a bit like how I cant support coal mining but want to lower carbon emissions. The two policies are linked whether you like it or not

If you want to stan Dan, you need to go full Dan. Doing otherwise just makes you a massive hypocrite

Id also say that stanning Dan to the level owen has pretty much means you are very very pro-China. Dan has done more for China then Australia at present and is very much a arm of the Chinese govt. There is a reason alot of people refer to him as Xi Andrews

Jesus mate. The lack of self awareness here is astonishing.

You're quite literally, making shit up.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Jesus mate. The lack of self awareness here is astonishing.

You're quite literally, making sh*t up.

You are not a Dan fan?

Please. Pick a side of the fence and stick to it. Its getting boring

 

[faible]

You are not a Dan fan?

Please. Pick a side of the fence and stick to it. Its getting boring

The absurd thing is that you assume it's a sides thing, for someone so caught up in their own (alleged) intellect, it's not a surprise that you don't have any concept that it's not about 'sides'. Except for you it seems. Baaa.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

The absurd thing is that you assume it's a sides thing, for someone so caught up in their own (alleged) intellect, it's not a surprise that you don't have any concept that it's not about 'sides'. Except for you it seems. Baaa.

Politics isnt a sides thing?

**** me, how naïve can you be

 

[faible]

Politics isnt a sides thing?

fu** me, how naïve can you be

If you want to make it a sides thing, where each person has to pick a side, that's on you my friend. Baaaa.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

If you want to make it a sides thing, where each person has to pick a side, that's on you my friend. Baaaa.

It wouldnt have to be if one side wasnt forcing there beliefs onto another with legislation. intimidation and removing of civil liberties.

That isnt on me or us either by the way. You can take whatever vaccine you want, wear whatever you want, stay at home however much as you like etc. Just dont bitch when I dont?

I said it before

'Yesterday I was clever, so I wanted to change the world. Today I am wise, so I am changing myself.

Please live by that. I can so why cant you?

 

[faible]

It wouldnt have to be if one side wasnt forcing there beliefs onto another with legislation. intimidation and removing of civil liberties.

Just because you want it to be so, doesn't mean it is a 'sides' thing.

It's like, you're incapable of seeing that people might have varying views on varying things, that it's not an all-inclusive package you sign up for. Unlike the sheep mentality you have. Baaaa.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Just because you want it to be so, doesn't mean it is a 'sides' thing.

It's like, you're incapable of seeing that people might have varying views on varying things, that it's not an all-inclusive package you sign up for. Unlike the sheep mentality you have. Baaaa.

You are welcome to your varying views. Dont force your varying views onto me and us? Not a single person in this thread cares if you wear a mask, take a vaccine, stay at home. We only care when people like you ask us to do what you want us too.

People wont go up and talk to you about your mask wearing but they will when Im not for example. That is a case of one side forcing its views onto others really. Something we are not doing.

 

[faible]

Way to avoid the thing you quoted

Dont quote a post you dont respond too please

The rest of your post didn't exist when I posted my reply. Sorry you weren't quick enough on your edit.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

The rest of your post didn't exist when I posted my reply. Sorry you weren't quick enough on your edit.

All good. I misread your post to be honest so thats on me

 

[faible]

We only care when people like you ask us to do what you want us too.

The problem with this is, that your actions don't exist in a vacuum when you live in a society with other people. It's like smokers arguing they should be able to smoke, whilst ignoring that smoking in a public space has impacts upon other people.

I don't particularly care what people do, but when you're coming on here, espousing your views, you're leaving yourself open to criticism.

It's like people being 'anti-vax'. Many vaccines are proven to work, and proven safe. So it's a flawed position, an ideoloigcal position.

If you're anti this vaccine, then it comes down to why. If it's because you believe that you should be exempt from any form of communal responsibility, even though you partake of communal society, then there's an issue. If you're skeptical because it's been a very abbreviated timeline and there may be side-effects that haven't had sufficient time or a sufficiently large sample size to be idenitifed, then that's a sensible enough position.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

The problem with this is, that your actions don't exist in a vacuum when you live in a society with other people. It's like smokers arguing they should be able to smoke, whilst ignoring that smoking in a public space has impacts upon other people.

I don't particularly care what people do, but when you're coming on here, espousing your views, you're leaving yourself open to criticism.

It's like people being 'anti-vax'. Many vaccines are proven to work, and proven safe. So it's a flawed position, an ideoloigcal position.

If you're anti this vaccine, then it comes down to why. If it's because you believe that you should be exempt from any form of communal responsibility, even though you partake of communal society, then there's an issue. If you're skeptical because it's been a very abbreviated timeline and there may be side-effects that haven't had sufficient time or a sufficiently large sample size to be idenitifed, then that's a sensible enough position.

Normally and maybe its just me but if I see someone smoking, I dont walk up to them and tell them to stop smoking? I also dont hang around where they are smoking to complain that they are smoking? In any sense it does have huge impacts on other people and I hugely agree with your statement. I have this whole time. I am 100% behind smoking being 100% banned and it should be as it will create consistent political policies without bias or prejudice. If you ban smoking, I am 100% for the mask wearing attitude for sure as its a consistent political policy. At the moment letting people smoke like chimneys, putting others in danger then asking me to wear a mask because i might put others in danger is massively hypocritical. At the same time as this id greatly tax items that damage the immune system. If we want to alter the course of legislation to protect peoples health, we need to be consistent with it. I drink 1 Coca Cola every day, my choice, its unhealthy but if you ask me I should be paying 7 bucks for that 1 can of Coke each day with 6 dollars going right to the hospital system. Its the fair thing to do. If my unhealthy habit has the ability to put strains on our infrastructure, health or otherwise I should pay a fee for that.

Also I dont consider this a vaccine, its a treatment. If it was a vaccine people still wouldnt get it, mutate it and pass it on. Id like more proof about the concept of my non mask wearing hurting others before its passed in stone as a proven theory also

 

[faible]

Normally and maybe its just me but if I see someone smoking, I dont walk up to them and tell them to stop smoking? I also dont hang around where they are smoking to complain that they are smoking? In any sense it does have huge impacts on other people and I hugely agree with your statement. I have this whole time. I am 100% behind smoking being 100% banned and it should be as it will create consistent political policies without bias or prejudice. If you ban smoking, I am 100% for the mask wearing attitude for sure as its a consistent political policy. At the moment letting people smoke like chimneys, putting others in danger then asking me to wear a mask because i might put others in danger is massively hypocritical. At the same time as this id greatly tax items that damage the immune system. If we want to alter the course of legislation to protect peoples health, we need to be consistent with it. I drink 1 Coca Cola every day, my choice, its unhealthy but if you ask me I should be paying 7 bucks for that 1 can of Coke each day with 6 dollars going right to the hospital system. Its the fair thing to do. If my unhealthy habit has the ability to put strains on our infrastructure, health or otherwise I should pay a fee for that.

Also I dont consider this a vaccine, its a treatment. If it was a vaccine people still wouldnt get it, mutate it and pass it on. Id like more proof about the concept of my non mask wearing hurting others before its passed in stone as a proven theory.

From memory - and I haven't looked at it for a while - smokers actually pay more in taxes on cigarettes than it costs in healthcare burden for them. Personally I couldn't care if smoking got banned, but the way the government is going is basically pricing them to oblivion so people simply can't afford to take it up instead of banning it.

Things like sugary drinks etc.. could certainly be taxed more heavily as a way to encourage people to buy more affordable fresh produce, or drink water, but would also represent a shift in government thinking. Given the enormous levels of overweight and obesity in society, maybe it's a necessary shift.

Asking for evidence first, in what is a developing situation, is a little disingenuous though. You can't 'uninfect' someone if you've already passed it on for example. So it's not an equally weighted argument.

Old mate who just flew from Perth to Melbourne after testing negative and doing 14 days in quarantine felt pretty safe and well i'm sure, until he didn't.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

From memory - and I haven't looked at it for a while - smokers actually pay more in taxes on cigarettes than it costs in healthcare burden for them. Personally I couldn't care if smoking got banned, but the way the government is going is basically pricing them to oblivion so people simply can't afford to take it up instead of banning it.

Things like sugary drinks etc.. could certainly be taxed more heavily as a way to encourage people to buy more affordable fresh produce, or drink water, but would also represent a shift in government thinking. Given the enormous levels of overweight and obesity in society, maybe it's a necessary shift.

Asking for evidence first, in what is a developing situation, is a little disingenuous though. You can't 'uninfect' someone if you've already passed it on for example. So it's not an equally weighted argument.

Old mate who just flew from Perth to Melbourne after testing negative and doing 14 days in quarantine felt pretty safe and well i'm sure, until he didn't.

The only stats are kept is the smoking deaths per revenue and that is borderline bang on the dollar. Once you add those whose immune systems fall over etc but actually die due to non smoking illnesses thereafter it ends up being a huge net loss for the community. They keep putting the tax up to keep up but its not working as you mentioned

Its not only a necessary shift, its the first shift. Havnt US death stats around obesity with Covid confirmed that? Its the elephant in the room for sure. No one wants to talk about it in the precious media for obvious reasons.

Asking for evidence first is never disingenuous. Forcing me to believe something without evidence is the true definition of disingenuous

 

[faible]

Asking for evidence first is never disingenuous. Forcing me to believe something without evidence is the true definition of disingenuous

As I said, it's not an equally weighted argument. Asking for evidence is fine, but you can't ignore that there's a very distinct difference in outcome between taking some action then assessing the evidence later, and taking no action and trying to gather evidence first.

Its not only a necessary shift, its the first shift. Havnt US death stats around obesity with Covid confirmed that? Its the elephant in the room for sure. No one wants to talk about it in the precious media for obvious reasons.

Don't shame the fatties.

 

[M Malice]

It's like people being 'anti-vax'. Many vaccines are proven to work, and proven safe. So it's a flawed position, an ideoloigcal position.

If you're anti this vaccine, then it comes down to why. If it's because you believe that you should be exempt from any form of communal responsibility, even though you partake of communal society, then there's an issue. If you're skeptical because it's been a very abbreviated timeline and there may be side-effects that haven't had sufficient time or a sufficiently large sample size to be idenitifed, then that's a sensible enough position.

This is precisely why I don't want to get this particular vaccine.

 

[burge13]

Restrictions coming to Perth/WA...

 

[ioppolo]

Restrictions coming to Perth/WA...

Over hotel quarantine.

 

[M Malice]

Restrictions coming to Perth/WA...

Did someone sniffle?

 

[burge13]

Did someone sniffle?

Probably not even that...

 

[Bender20]

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I came across a post put up on YouTube comments weeks ago regarding this. Seemed to be posted from someone in one of the labs.
Of all the samples they tested they found influenza, then asked the CDC for a sample of covid 19 which the CDC declined. Seems the pcr tests are garbage.

 

[Bender20]

30. Right. When I was 30 I was invincible too. You’ll change.

I'm 54 and still invincible, plenty of regular exercise and love making.
You dont have to get old.

 

[giggler99]

Restrictions coming to Perth/WA...

No surprise ANZAC day coming up.. cases always magically come up when we have major events or Holidays on.. gotta keep the people locked and masked up for or own safety so dictator Premiers can pretend to look like saviors.

Victoria might enforce restrictions too soon after today's news. Dan Andrews might even come out of hiding on Zoom to reassure us "our safety is paramount."