Conspiracy Theory Coronavirus #2: Lockdowns

[Spitty_the_alpaca]

 

[Hawk Dork]

What is the ******* obsession with overseas. The sheep CONSTANTLY bring up the US

I thought the sheep ignored whats happening in the world ?

 

[burge13]

Trust simpletons to ignore facts. Proving yourself 100x over to be incapable of thought Hawkie...

Arrogantly stupid. Must be American?

 

[Hawk Dork]

Trust simpletons to ignore facts. Proving yourself 100x over to be incapable of thought Hawkie...

Arrogantly stupid. Must be American?

Which part of my statement makes the voice in your head say that ?

 

[Crankitup]

 

[Catfish Alley]

I still don't know anyone who has contracted covid so far in the 12 months it's been allegedly spiralling out of control around the world according to the msm & governments, But I keep hearing of more celebrities/influencers testing positive for covid every week that goes by.

That's not too surprising. 28,000 cases in a population of 25M - so 0.1%. I know 3 people that have had it. Symptoms ranged from a minor cold to something like chronic fatigue syndrome that lasted a couple of months.

 

[Fwoy]

 

[MrKK]

Summary of what I've said multiple times in various threads. These vaccines are focused on symptoms not stopping infection or transmission. So either there is no need for anyone other than the vulnerable to take it, or the fear mongering about asymptomatic transmission this year is totally unfounded.

 

[burge13]

Much of the wealthy in the middle east (UAE mostly) have had a vaccination already (apparently). Billionaire investors, even the prime minister of the UAE (have connections to the UFC, hence fight island being a thing and how I saw this) has taken it.

Vaccine rolled out there is from Sinopharm, a Chinese company. If Billionaires and world leaders are taking it (1 million doses rolled out) why was this not reported in the west? AlJezeera reported the news re: the UAE PM taking it back in early November

Now it's hard to trust anything China or the middle east do or say but heck at this point why does anyone trust our news either. Which scenario is more likely here? Middle East are already rolling out an effective enough vaccine to get life back to normal or that's not happening at all hence the radio silence by our news? If they have one, that should be front page of every paper giving people 'hope' (ignore the fact it doesn't need a vaccine for now)

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Much of the wealthy in the middle east (UAE mostly) have had a vaccination already (apparently). Billionaire investors, even the prime minister of the UAE (have connections to the UFC, hence fight island being a thing and how I saw this) has taken it.

Vaccine rolled out there is from Sinopharm, a Chinese company. If Billionaires and world leaders are taking it (1 million doses rolled out) why was this not reported in the west? AlJezeera reported the news re: the UAE PM taking it back in early November

Now it's hard to trust anything China or the middle east do or say but **** at this point why does anyone trust our news either. Which scenario is more likely here? Middle East are already rolling out an effective enough vaccine to get life back to normal or that's not happening at all hence the radio silence by our news? If they have one, that should be front page of every paper giving people 'hope' (ignore the fact it doesn't need a vaccine for now)

You cant sell what you dont own so I do understand that

China have already sold their vaccine to other nations outside of the West. Us talking about it is pointless since we will never see it

 

[burge13]

You cant sell what you dont own so I do understand that

China have already sold their vaccine to other nations outside of the West. Us talking about it is pointless since we will never see it

I don't get what you mean by any of this. The first line makes no sense to me at all

But if China have sold a provably suitable and successful used by world leaders that's newsworthy and should be reported. If it's successful, why the **** are we getting vaccines from companies who couldn't get their dosages in testing right, let alone prove it works. Global health should override trade arguments between China and the west and petty trade wars preventing people getting help lies with our politicians and questions should be asked and publicly reported

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

I don't get what you mean by any of this. The first line makes no sense to me at all

But if China have sold a provably suitable and successful used by world leaders that's newsworthy and should be reported. If it's successful, why the fu** are we getting vaccines from companies who couldn't get their dosages in testing right, let alone prove it works. Global health should override trade arguments between China and the west and petty trade wars preventing people getting help lies with our politicians and questions should be asked and publicly reported

Because they have already sold it to other people and can only make so much?

 

[burge13]

Because they have already sold it to other people and can only make so much?

Ok, fair.

A) they'll make more, and
B) it isn't newsworthy that world leaders are taking a vaccination?! I know only bad news sells and the media are the ones pushing this pandemic nonsense but that needs to be questioned why no one here reported such a 'landmark event' in 2020...

 

[BlueE]

FACT. There have not been animal trials for the mRNA vaccines and when the vaccines for SARS CoV 1 were tested on ferrets, mice, cats or primates, then challenged with SARS they had more serious effects of SARS or died because of 'The formation of so-called "non-neutralizing antibodies" can lead to an exaggerated immune reaction, especially when the test person is confronted with the real, "wild" virus after vaccination.' Because of this reaction human trials of the vaccine were halted and it did not proceed.

The measure of so called success of the Pfizer vaccine is that it produces spike proteins or antibodies, with the similar side effects as the placebo. None of the human test subjects have been tested to see if the vaccine prevents them from getting SARS CoV 2. They haven't been challenged with the disease. Dr Madej (and ex Pfizer VP and German immunologist in petition to stop vaccine trials) suggests this is because of the above non- neutralising antibodies in the previous SARS vaccine trial.

Also, the placebo in the Astra Zenica trial is not the usual inert substance, but a meningococcal vaccine which was chosen as it produces similar side effects to SARS so won't show many differences. Not sure if this is the same with the mRNA vaccines. Just a co-incidence that the death of a 28 year old previously healthy doctor test subject in Brazil from meningitis, was in the control group?

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Ok, fair.

A) they'll make more, and
B) it isn't newsworthy that world leaders are taking a vaccination?! I know only bad news sells and the media are the ones pushing this pandemic nonsense but that needs to be questioned why no one here reported such a 'landmark event' in 2020...

For the same reason the biggest famine in world history will be a blip in our media. If it doesnt affect us, we dont care or write about it

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Also ill say this

The day Rupert Murdoch dies will be one of the better days in Western society I think. He is genuinely one of the worst people who has ever lived

 

[BlueE]

WA premier threatens.

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So with zero school aged children in any of the vaccine trials so far, why is McGowan making vaccination compulsory for a group with 0% of dying or having serious effects, without any safety data for that age group?

But there is data that suggests the vaccines might cause infertility as the vaccinations are expected to produce antibodies against spike proteins of SARS-CoV-2.

However, spike proteins also contain syncytin-homologous proteins, which are essential for the formation of the placenta in mammals such as humans. It must be absolutely ruled out that a vaccine against SARS-CoV-2 could trigger an immune reaction against syncytin-1, as otherwise infertility of indefinite duration could result in vaccinated women.

The steralisation of an estimated 500,000 girls and women in Kenya and other countries with UN sponsored vaccination the UN initially denied, should be a warning. https://tpchronicles.com/un-vaccines-sterilize/

 

[parsons nose]

So with zero school aged children in any of the vaccine trials so far, why is McGowan making vaccination compulsory for a group with 0% of dying or having serious effects, without any safety data for that age group?

But there is data that suggests the vaccines might cause infertility as the vaccinations are expected to produce antibodies against spike proteins of SARS-CoV-2.

However, spike proteins also contain syncytin-homologous proteins, which are essential for the formation of the placenta in mammals such as humans. It must be absolutely ruled out that a vaccine against SARS-CoV-2 could trigger an immune reaction against syncytin-1, as otherwise infertility of indefinite duration could result in vaccinated women.

The steralisation of an estimated 500,000 girls and women in Kenya and other countries with UN sponsored vaccination the UN initially denied, should be a warning. https://tpchronicles.com/un-vaccines-sterilize/

There is a difference between ‘could’ and ’will’.

 

[burge13]

There is a difference between ‘could’ and ’will’.

That's something we can agree on yet we're constantly being locked down over something that 'could' happen.

 

[BlueE]

There is a difference between ‘could’ and ’will’.

We know spike proteins also contain syncytin-homologous proteins, which are essential for the formation of the placenta in mammals such as humans.

It must be absolutely ruled out that a vaccine against SARS-CoV-2 could trigger an immune reaction against syncytin-1, as otherwise infertility of indefinite duration could result in vaccinated women.

So where is the safety data that rules this out? There is none because this would mean animal testing and years of data collection in humans which hasn't happened.

 

[burge13]

FACT. There have not been animal trials for the mRNA vaccines and when the vaccines for SARS CoV 1 were tested on ferrets, mice, cats or primates, then challenged with SARS they had more serious effects of SARS or died because of 'The formation of so-called "non-neutralizing antibodies" can lead to an exaggerated immune reaction, especially when the test person is confronted with the real, "wild" virus after vaccination.' Because of this reaction human trials of the vaccine were halted and it did not proceed.

The measure of so called success of the Pfizer vaccine is that it produces spike proteins or antibodies, with the similar side effects as the placebo. None of the human test subjects have been tested to see if the vaccine prevents them from getting SARS CoV 2. They haven't been challenged with the disease. Dr Madej (and ex Pfizer VP and German immunologist in petition to stop vaccine trials) suggests this is because of the above non- neutralising antibodies in the previous SARS vaccine trial.

Also, the placebo in the Astra Zenica trial is not the usual inert substance, but a meningococcal vaccine which was chosen as it produces similar side effects to SARS so won't show many differences. Not sure if this is the same with the mRNA vaccines. Just a co-incidence that the death of a 28 year old previously healthy doctor test subject in Brazil from meningitis, was in the control group?

Honestly, we should stop worrying about vaccine side effects. We keep saying we should manage our own health, if a bunch of covid cheerleaders rush to get this vaccine against all common sense and logic, let them...

No one I care about will get it. There's a bunch of people I know who will but I'll happily laugh in their faces if the vaccine makes them sick. They're campaigners (covid beliefs aside, they're just shit people)

 

[giggler99]

This a freakin’ joke!

Now they want us to carry around vaccination cards?



Gagf!!

 

[giggler99]

Couldn’t have said it better myself! I’m so angry and sick of this shit and people will no doubt encourage it!

 

[burge13]

This a freakin’ joke!

Now they want us to carry around vaccination cards?



Gagf!!

Some things here.

Our public service won't be able to track it, it's full of idiots.
Will also be easy to fake/forge if you want to if it's just a card...

I'm genuinely not worried about anything mandated that will be monitored and tracked by the public service. They are so incompetent it'll go the way of the dodo very quickly.

South Australia has had 10+ years to set up electronic medical records. Still barely done and billions over budget, multiple ICT companies hired, fired. NBN a disaster. Christ, the HR system here took them 7 years to upgrade. Don't be alarmed if these morons are rolling this out, you'll never see it, especially those in SA

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Anyone got a printer?

I need to get a vaccine