News Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Thread IV

[Ligma]

I’m not really one for laughing at antivaxxers that die from covid but I’m pretty comfortable with this one.

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Imagine being antisemitic in this day and age it’s truely mind boggling

 

[Val Keating]

Imagine being antisemitic in this day and age it’s truely mind boggling

There’s so many people in the world that there’s always going to be idiots. We just have one less now.

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

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There’s so many people in the world that there’s always going to be idiots. We just have one less now.

And the biggest problem is they think they’ve got the ‘conspiracy’ worked out.

 

[B4Bear]

I’m not really one for laughing at antivaxxers that die from covid but I’m pretty comfortable with this one.

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Love it when Jewish plots kill Nazi *silly people.

 

[Hojuman]

I’m not really one for laughing at antivaxxers that die from covid but I’m pretty comfortable with this one.

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Strike one up for the " leftie jewish plotters " then.

 

[big_e]

well posted BigE,

ok so that looks a little more palatable, and is written with gaping loopholes,
part 4 states its an offense to use the RAT test as a means of detecting if you have covid, no problem to posess one or are "testing" one for scientific purposes ;-)

and part 5 overides part 4 anyway!,

legislation for the sake of legislation.

In a practical sense, though, it meant you couldn't get them here. And not in a "I was going to this shop but they sold out in five minutes" way - they literally were not available in Western Australia at all.

 

[The acurate one]

There’s so many people in the world that there’s always going to be idiots. We just have one less now.

I’m not really one for laughing at antivaxxers that die from covid but I’m pretty comfortable with this one.

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Well just maybe covid has change tack and taking out those involved with horrid music? We at this stage cannot rule it out.

ˈmyo͞ozikacron maybe . I may have discovered a new variant.

He had other issues and by the look of him I'm not surprised. RIP, a life lost and some will no doubt miss him. Unfortunately idiots breed pretty quick, so he'll be replaced fairly smartly.

 

[travelli]

chefs kiss

I admire how level headed you are, it’s amazing. Even though in the past we have disagreed the way you articulate you’re opinions and views isn’t in a way of expressing self importance or arrogance and for that sir I commend you

Thanks, but me thinks that might be a message for someone else...

 

[Ligma]

Thanks, but me thinks that might be a message for someone else...

NO!!!! I genuinely think that you’re really easy to exchange opinions with

 

[Gasometer]

Australia has had its deadliest day yet of the pandemic – here’s what we know about who is dying

As the nation reaches the deadliest stage of the entire coronavirus pandemic, the protective effects of the vaccine remain clear

www.theguardian.com

A pretty good summary of what is happening out there.

Pretty damn ******* depressing

 

[Gasometer]

Thanks, but me thinks that might be a message for someone else...

Love the Gif

 

[Hojuman]

Covid Anniversary. Long 2 years ago today that Aus.had it's first disgnosed case.

Moderna booster yesterday here. No prob's.

 

[Themanbun]

I was down Lygon street Brunswick last night and it was busy, but I’d say the majority of people out were 30 and under. It was weird. Usually it’s a pretty even spread of ages. Seems some people are worried about catching covid even though they’re fully vaxxed. If someone told you in 2018 that people would be staying home because of a virus they’re fully vaxxed from youd look at them like they were speaking gibberish.

I’ll have to check out the deck. I’ve got a mate who moved down the peninsula a few years ago, I keep telling him I’ll catch up. Maybe we’ll go there.

People are fully vaccinated against the original strain. Unfortunately, this thing's ability to mutate in ways that escape vaccine protection in terms of transmissibility is a massive pain in the arse.

The WHO even pointed out the other day that we need resourcing and plans to deal with the new strain on its own merit rather than just throwing boosters of the original vaccine at it, which can only get you so far.

 

[Val Keating]

People are fully vaccinated against the original strain. Unfortunately, this thing's ability to mutate in ways that escape vaccine protection in terms of transmissibility is a massive pain in the arse.

The WHO even pointed out the other day that we need resourcing and plans to deal with the new strain on its own merit rather than just throwing boosters of the original vaccine at it, which can only get you so far.

I understand that but after 2 years of wasted life I’m ready to get out. The way it is now is good. Don’t think there should be any restrictions anymore. Those that don’t want to participate in society can stay home but those that want to live again can go back to living. Especially considering how low the hospital rate of the new variant is.

 

[Val Keating]

People used to be scared they could die, now they’re just scared of catching it.

 

[Themanbun]

I understand that but after 2 years of wasted life I’m ready to get out. The way it is now is good. Don’t think there should be any restrictions anymore. Those that don’t want to participate in society can stay home but those that want to live again can go back to living. Especially considering how low the hospital rate of the new variant is.

That's cool, I was just responding to your comment judging others for not being prepared to do the same (of their own volition, not due to restrictions) is all.

The vaccine wasn't designed with this variant in mind, so to say that you'd be shocked if years back someone said they'd be staying home because of a virus they're "fully vaccinated against" isn't really on the money IMO.

 

[Val Keating]

That's cool, I was just responding to your comment judging others for not being prepared to do the same (of their own volition, not due to restrictions) is all.

The vaccine wasn't designed with this variant in mind, so to say that you'd be shocked if years back someone said they'd be staying home because of a virus they're "fully vaccinated against" isn't really on the money IMO.

I meant that because they’ve changed the definition of being vaccinated.

Edit- Sorry if I came across as judgmental, I was just saying it felt weird because it was very obvious that a big section, arguably the most prominent age group pre pandemic, was absent.

 

[Themanbun]

I meant that because they’ve changed the definition of being vaccinated.

Who has?

When a new flu variant comes up each year with a new vaccine, no one says "ah I had my shot last year so I'm fully vaccinated."

The government has imposed non-medical definitions out of necessity and simplicity for restrictions on the non 'fully vaccinated', but in medical terms (which most people voluntarily reducing how much they socialise would look at, which seems to be your gripe) we are not fully vaccinated against this variant. We are trying to jam an extra layer of protection in with booster shots of the original vaccine while we feverishly work in the background for a vaccine targeting this variant.

People are voluntarily staying home because they know tonnes of people getting sick and potentially some in hospital. Which shouldn't surprise anyone. They know they vaccinations they've had aren't targeted against this variant and so are a greater risk of catching it.

 

[Gasometer]

Covid Anniversary. Long 2 years ago today that Aus.had it's first disgnosed case.

Moderna booster yesterday here. No prob's.

I think it was March 4 when I started the first version of this thread. I am expecting to have had it by that date with the world about to fire back up

 

[7577969923]

That's cool, I was just responding to your comment judging others for not being prepared to do the same (of their own volition, not due to restrictions) is all.

The vaccine wasn't designed with this variant in mind, so to say that you'd be shocked if years back someone said they'd be staying home because of a virus they're "fully vaccinated against" isn't really on the money IMO.

Figures released by the CDC in the USA have shown that the unvaccinated are 49 times more likely to be hospitalised with Covid than those that are triple vaxxed and that data includes a large amount of the Omicron wave. Yes, the current vaccines weren't specifically designed for Omicron, or Delta for that matter, but they do seem to be highly effective at preventing the worst outcomes.

 

[Themanbun]

Figures released by the CDC in the USA have shown that the unvaccinated are 49 times more likely to be hospitalised with Covid than those that are triple vaxxed and that data includes a large amount of the Omicron wave. Yes, the current vaccines weren't specifically designed for Omicron, or Delta for that matter, but they do seem to be highly effective at preventing the worst outcomes.

Yep, not disputing that they provide a decent level of protection against severe disease. More so that I don't judge people who've had their shots for staying home amid the latest variant.

 

[7577969923]

Yep, not disputing that they provide a decent level of protection against severe disease. More so that I don't judge people who've had their shots for staying home amid the latest variant.

I've been working in a hospitality environment for the past few months and what I noticed is that after NYE when the Omicron variant surged we had the dual impact of losing staff and had a lot of canceled bookings. We also had to shut for a few days as we couldn't staff the venue with all the younger team members having caught covid on NYE. I think at that point there was a bit of panic about. since then we have had all the staff come back (none of them were more than mildly ill) and no second wave of staff going down.
Pretty much everyone now knows multiple people that have had Covid and come out the other side without being hospitalised so I suspect that the panic has subsided and people are getting back to living their lives. The only cancellations now seem to be from people having to isolate themselves.
You're right about not judging people on making the decision not to engage fully with society. That is what "living with the virus" needs to be, people being well informed and making the decisions that suit them.

 

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[koshari]

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those last 3 age profiles are very telling, unvaxxed making up over 3 times the amount of vaxxed, that dispite they only represent 1/10th of the population! talk about over representation!

 

[koshari]

You're right about not judging people on making the decision not to engage fully with society. That is what "living with the virus" needs to be, people being well informed and making the decisions that suit them.

unfortunately some people like to wear blinkers when it comes to most of the facts. i know a few and quite frankly their arguments are sad. even going as far as believing Pauline Hansons claim the hospitalisation data is falsified.