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Conspiracy Theory Coronavirus: Origins

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Thoughts on COVID-19? (Choose 2 options)

  • It's a naturally occurring virus

    Votes: 18 20.2%
  • It came from a Chinese laboratory

    Votes: 39 43.8%
  • It came from a US/other laboratory

    Votes: 4 4.5%
  • It's dangerous and harsh restrictions are necessary

    Votes: 32 36.0%
  • Not dangerous enough to warrant harsh restrictions

    Votes: 22 24.7%
  • It's basically another flu, so restrictions are silly

    Votes: 20 22.5%

  • Total voters
    89

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Q. What's the relation between all this pedo stuff and Covid-19?

A. I’ve seen some of this before. Supposedly there’s a lab in Wuhan that produces synthetic adrenochrome and I’ve seen theories that that supply was “spiked” or infected or something and now these sketchy maybe-pedo figures are all getting covid. From the tainted synthetic stuff. At least that’s what I’ve gleaned from the past couple days of looking at this page. That, and “self quarantine” sometimes means “house arrest” or something.
 
so the first 2 deaths in Victoria on Wednesday night.. news is running that its unknown whether they returned positive tests prior to their deaths.
WTF is this suppose to mean?

Found the article. I think it means they were in hospital with cancer, got sicker and died, then they checked for Coronavirus and they had it. I’d like to know what caused them to die, maybe they were close to death with their cancer and that was the cause and they had the virus but were asymptomatic. If this is the case should not be counted in the stats obviously.
 
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Also I asked my brother about the 35 cases at my niece’s hospital (she’s a nurse) and it turns out that they had had 35 positive test but not all had been hospitalised. See how easy it is for misinformation to get about, even innocently?
 
Wuhan Institute of Virology Newsletter No.18 Nov 2017:

After a detective hunt across China, researchers chasing the origin of the deadly SARS virus have finally found their smoking gun. In a remote cave in Yunnan province, virologists have identified a single population of horseshoe bats that harbours virus strains with all the genetic building blocks of the one that jumped to humans in 2002, killing almost 800 people around the world.

The killer strain could easily have arisen from such a bat population, the researchers report in PLoS Pathogens on 30 November. They warn that the ingredients are in place for a similar disease to emerge again.

Cui and Shi are searching for other bat populations that could have produced strains capable of infecting humans. The researchers have now isolated some 300 bat coronavirus sequences, most not yet published, with which they will continue to monitor the virus’s evolution.

And they warn that a deadly outbreak could emerge again: the cave where the elements of SARS were found is just 1 kilometre from the nearest village, and genetic mixing among the viral strains is fast. “The risk of spillover into people and emergence of a disease similar to SARS is possible,” the authors write in their paper.

This is word for word whats posted in their newsletters... This just raises so many questions. This is factual evidence that they knew as early as November 17 that this could have happened...
 
Maybe not...



interesting 🤔

On a side note...Pence always looks like his stoned, or under hypnosis, or sedated or in some type of trance with no change of expression in his face

a truly odd fella
 
Taken from Newsletter No.7 Nov 2015:
"On the basis of these findings, they synthetically re-derived an infectious fulllength SHC014 recombinant virus and demonstrate robust viral replication both in vitro and in vivo. The work suggests a potential risk of SARS-CoV re-emergence from viruses currently circulating in bat populations"
 
In the same newsletter theres another article, this is the head line:
"Gates Foundation initiates plans to establish Grand Challenges China Program"

ffs you really cant make this shit up. There is so much we are not being told by the media.
 
some disturbing videos shown in this video --- part 4 -- police state...from china during the covid scare.



so much of that is beyond disturbing

I feel sorry for the Chinese citizens

those black shirts and their behaviour is straight out the Nazi SS manual of rounding up who ever they feel like and cart them off to god knows where ..never to be seen again
 
There’s something fishy going on that’s for sure ..

out of all the people I know only 3 have come down with symptoms that resemble a bad cold or a bit of flu

all woman in their late 40s

2 in Melbourne
1 in Perth

Other than that..no one else

That seems like a lot. What percentage are you expecting to get sick??
 
There’s something fishy going on that’s for sure ..

out of all the people I know only 3 have come down with symptoms that resemble a bad cold or a bit of flu

all woman in their late 40s

2 in Melbourne
1 in Perth

Other than that..no one else

I know zero people with even so much as a sniffle at the moment.
 

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That seems like a lot. What percentage are you expecting to get sick??

It seems a lot? Out all the friends and family I know? Which is quite a few.

I’m not expecting anything.

All I know is that I thought there would be more by now

one works in pharmacy and has probably copped a bad cold from the hordes flooding in the last few weeks

one works in the melb cbd

the 3rd has been in Melb shopping centres non stop for last 3 weeks buying stuff
 
so, there is all this information telling them that this was an inevitable event and then when it does happen they try and suppress all the information about it. **** you China
 
It seems a lot? Out all the friends and family I know? Which is quite a few.

I’m not expecting anything.

All I know is that I thought there would be more by now

Aren’t there only something like 4,000 cases in a population of 25 million?
 
Here we go now British PM Bojo has it but just mild or so they say,wonder if he was at the G20 summit?

They had a emergency video hookup of G20 leaders.

One thing I find puzzling is the number of famous people reportedly getting this thing.

Just taking the UK as an example, we now have two of the most famous people in that country with the disease (Prince Charles & Boris Johnson). What are the odds of that happening? There are currently 14,500 cases in a country with a population of 66 million people. The number of confirmed cases represents about 0.02 percent of the population. The chance that any particular individual taken at random should have the disease therefore is 1 in 5,000 and yet despite these odds the two most famous people in the UK other than the Queen have it along with UK entertainers, premier division football coaches and players. Most of us find it hard to win the meat raffle at our local pub or club despite buying several tickets from a raffle book of 100 FFS.

Quite strange.
 
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interest how the far-right Brazilian president is dismissing the whole COVID 19 hysteria. He really is the Trump of South America.

We know that him and Trump are good mates and recently got together at Trumps resort just before all this pandemic started.

it’s interesting that Bolsonaro has tested negative like trump while most of his cabinet is positive.

Just trying to work out why blokes like him and Trump aren’t taking it seriously. Is it because they have inside knowledge and possibly have immunity to the “ virus“?

it all doesn’t quite fit the narrative of other country leaders ..
The CoronavirusDenial Movement Now Has a Leader
Brazilian president Jair Bolsonaro has lashed out against local officials who have implemented severe lockdowns, accusing them of destroying the country

Brazil's far-right leader Jair Bolsonaro has sparked further outrage by suggesting the number of coronavirus cases in the country were being inflated for political purposes.
Mr Bolsonaro, who has called for lockdowns to be lifted across the country, has already faced criticism for calling the virus a media “trick”.
The death toll in Brazil has risen to 92, with 3417 cases.
Overnight, he told Brazilian television he suspected those figures were being inflated by a political rival and denouncing coronavirus “alarmism”.
“Some people will die. I’m sorry. That’s life," he said. “You can’t shut down a car factory because people die in traffic accidents.


Brazil's leader blasted over COVID-19 remarks
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Gavin Fernando
Brazil's far-right leader Jair Bolsonaro has sparked further outrage by suggesting the number of coronavirus cases in the country were being inflated for political purposes.
Mr Bolsonaro, who has called for lockdowns to be lifted across the country, has already faced criticism for calling the virus a media “trick”.
The death toll in Brazil has risen to 92, with 3417 cases.
Overnight, he told Brazilian television he suspected those figures were being inflated by a political rival and denouncing coronavirus “alarmism”.
“Some people will die. I’m sorry. That’s life," he said. “You can’t shut down a car factory because people die in traffic accidents."


Nicknamed the “Trump of the Tropics,” Bolsonaro has sought to emulate the American president’s right-wing populist-nationalism since launching his bid for the presidency in 2018. But compared with Bolsonaro’s position on the coronavirus pandemic, Donald Trump’s approach looks sober and scientifically grounded.


If there’s one lesson from the global responses to COVID-19, it’s this: The countries that have had the most success “flattening the curve” acted quickly and aggressively to contain the virus, rather than downplaying the threat it posed. Bolsonaro has had months to absorb this lesson, yet has chosen to take the opposite tack.
Bolsonaro, who leads one of the world’s most populous and economically dynamic countries, has described COVID-19 as a symptom-free nuisance for “90 percent” of infected Brazilians. He’s argued that while he may be 65, he wouldn’t be at serious risk even if he were to become infected, because of his “history as an athlete.” (The athletes who have contracted COVID-19 might be surprised to learn that their talents grant them special powers against the virus.) He has proposed isolating only the elderly and those with underlying health conditions. As recently as yesterday, Bolsonaro asserted that Brazilians “never catch anything,” even when they dive into “sewage,” and that they may have already developed the “antibodies” to stop the virus’s spread.

Trump has declined to criticize Bolsonaro for his coronavirus skepticism, but has not gone nearly as far as his Brazilian counterpart. In fact, Bolsonaro has been more extreme in his denialism than any world leader. Even Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi, another right-wing populnationalist, has ordered the largest lockdown in human history.*

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Ueslei Marcelino
This article is adapted from AQ's print issue on transparency and the 2018 elections
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It was a sunny Tuesday morning in Rio de Janeiro, and Flávio Bolsonaro, the son of Brazil’s arch-conservative presidential candidate, was patiently explaining to me when torture is okay.
“I’ll give you an example,” he offered. “I have two small daughters, five and three. If a criminal kidnaps my daughter and starts sending a piece of ear, a piece of finger to my house, and the police catches one of the criminals from that gang of kidnappers, and if he doesn’t tell where she’s being kept — I’m going to volunteer to torture that guy!”
“I’m not in favor of torture as state policy, but in certain situations any human being …” His voice trailed off. “You weigh what is the more important value in your life: Is it your daughter, or the right to remain silent? Do you understand?”
This was vintage Bolsonaro: a grim, apocalyptic view of law and order. A clever, possibly sincere nod to democratic convention (“I’m not in favor of torture, but  …”). And a simple, easy-to-understand message that, in a country with 19 of the world’s 50 most violent cities, makes even some moderate Brazilians say: You know what? He may be right!
It’s a message that horrifies advocates of human rights and democracy, as well as those who say there are more effective (and legal) ways to fight crime. But it has helped make the Bolsonaros the most successful family in Brazilian politics at a time when much of Latin America and the world are experiencing an explosion of nationalist, anti-establishment fervor.
Flávio, 36, is a state legislator in Rio. Carlos, 35, is a city councilman. Eduardo, 33, is a federal congressman representing São Paulo. Yet the real story is the family patriarch, Jair, a 62-year-old retired army captain and congressman. Just two years ago, he was widely lampooned as an embarrassing, hatred-spewing sideshow, but today he is a leading contender to become Brazil’s next president. Polls for this October’s election put him in second place, with about 20 percent of the vote — good enough to make a runoff in a fragmented, still unsettled field. Among Brazil’s wealthiest, best-educated voters, Bolsonaro is — believe it or not — the preferred candidate by a healthy margin, polls show. Voters age 18 to 25 adore him most of all.​
 
Those videos GG linked to that Australian guy showing footage of the way the Chinese SS Nazi style black shirt officials have treated their own countrymen is a massive red flag to how Jinping’s China is taking advantage of the situation and carting people off to death camps or detention.

All this violent action dragging people off and beating the shit out of them while wearing no masks or any type of PPE.

Imprisonment of citizens in their own home by boarding up their doors with sheets of wood is a sure sign that they don’t give two hoots about certain sections of their population and are happy if they just go ahead and die.

Its Germany 1938/39 all over again.


Ethnic cleansing at its finest.

Except in the Chinese version, it’s social status cleansing.

population cull.
 
Basically, the guy is a quintessential national socialist who’s story is straight outta the boy’s own Hitler manual of rising out the gutter to become leader of one of the worlds biggest nations.

The little corporal who rose to be general.

I never took much noticed of him until an hour ago. But it makes sense that trump thinks he’s a great guy.



Born in 1955 in a small town in São Paulo state, his parents originally wanted to name him Messias, or “Messiah.” But a neighbor suggested “Jair,” after a midfielder on the Brazilian national soccer team, so Messias became his middle name instead. Jair’s father was a practicing dentist with no professional training, which was somewhat common in that era, but also illegal. The family bounced around as he looked for a place to work in peace, before finally landing in Eldorado Paulista, a banana town in the Atlantic rain forest. Gunfights occasionally broke out in the town plaza, forcing Jair and his five siblings to take shelter under their parents’ bed.



As Brazil’s 1964–1985 dictatorship drew to a close, Bolsonaro enlisted as a parachute infantryman and rose through the ranks — slowly. His commanding officer described him as a man of “excessive financial ambition ... lacking logic, rationality and balance.” In 1986, while still in the army, Bolsonaro wrote a column for Veja, Brazil’s leading news magazine, decrying low military salaries. The article landed Bolsonaro in a military prison for 15 days for insubordination. It also launched his political career. Casting himself as a champion of the military’s rank-and-file during the chaotic, hyperinflationary early days of civilian rule, he was elected to Rio’s city council and then became a congressman in 1991.
Before long, Bolsonaro began grabbing headlines with his incendiary rhetoric: diatribes against minorities, nostalgia for the dictatorship, and a call in 1999 for President Fernando Henrique Cardoso to be shot for privatizing state assets (for a partial list, see the box below). But he was so distant from real power, in a Congress that also included a professional clown and several legislators accused of kidnapping and even murder, that few paid him much attention. “He said awful things,” said Ignacio Cano, a professor at the State University of Rio de Janeiro and frequent Bolsonaro critic, “but he was marginal and pretty much considered harmless.”

In September, I spent two hours in the office Bolsonaro shares with his son and fellow congressman, Eduardo. Cramped, sparsely decorated, and shielded from Brasilia’s blazing sun by the wispiest of curtains, at first it seemed unremarkable. But the clues were there.
First, near the door: A sign proclaiming “I support Car Wash,” a reference to the investigation of state oil company Petrobras that uncovered more than $5 billion in graft — Brazil’s biggest corruption scandal ever. Nearby, in a reference to the federal judge overseeing the case, a ribbon in the colors of the Brazilian flag read, “Faith in Moro, faith in Bolsonaro, faith in Brazil.”
The Car Wash probe, which contributed to the impeachment of President Dilma Rousseff in 2016 and has sent numerous other powerful politicians and tycoons to jail, remains immensely popular on the Brazilian street despite some recent setbacks. In an October poll, 94 percent of respondents agreed the investigation should “continue to the very end, whatever the cost.” In other surveys, corruption has frequently appeared as voters’ top concern, even at a time when unemployment is above 12 percent and the national health care system is in collapse.
When Rousseff was ousted, ending 14 years of Workers’ Party rule, many Brazilians hoped politicians would finally clean up their act. But her replacement, President Michel Temer, has been charged with racketeering and obstruction of justice (which he denies), narrowly escaped impeachment himself, and now has an approval rating of just 5 percent. One of Temer’s former top aides was jailed after police found suitcases stuffed with $16 million in cash in an apartment he used; other allies were caught on tape plotting to sabotage Car Wash. One of the only prominent national politicians who has not been implicated is  … you guessed it. In polls over the past year, Bolsonaro’s rise has almost exactly tracked Temer’s decline. “We now know he is our only hope for clean government,” said João Pereira da Silva, a student who had been waiting outside his congressional office for four hours, hoping for a glimpse. “Everybody else here is trash.”
 
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