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I'm 50-50 for Dockers: Carey
Alan Shiell
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5:13:17 PM Wed 16 July, 2003

Wayne Carey, nursing 14 stitches in a deep, swollen gash just above his right kneecap, gives himself a 50-50 chance of playing in the crucial Adelaide-Fremantle match at Subiaco Oval on Sunday.

Carey wants to play in his 10th match this season and is likely to be named in the Crows’ initial squad of 25 on Thursday, with a final decision left until Friday or even Saturday.

“It’s pretty good,” Carey said of his knee, which he hurt in a heavy, sliding collision with a point post during the third quarter against Essendon at AAMI Stadium last Friday night.


“It was pretty sore a few days after but it feels very good now. The swelling’s gone down a lot – it was fairly puffy – and I give myself a pretty good chance.

“I’ll run tonight (Wednesday) indoors on a treadmill and give myself every chance to play on Sunday. A nine-day break has given me a good chance. I’d say I was probably 50-50. I’m not really a betting man, other than on Saturdays, Sundays and Fridays.”

Carey said he had spoken to Adelaide coach Gary Ayres again on Wednesday and Ayres would decide whether he played against the Dockers.

“He said he’d give me every opportunity to get up for Sunday, so we’ll assess it again tomorrow and continue to work to play on Sunday,” Carey said.

“They’ve put about seven or eight stitches on the inside, and they’re dissolvable stitches, so hopefully they do the job. And with a bit of padding over the knee, I think we’ll get away with it.”

Carey said his body felt ‘really, really good’.

“I really haven’t got a complaint at the moment, other than running into the point post and having a gash in my knee,” he said. “I obviously want to play every week. I don’t want to miss this week, hence I’ll be doing my best to get up.”

Carey said he did not think the worst for his knee when he collided with the point post.

“I knew I hadn’t twisted the knee or anything like that, so I knew I wouldn’t need a reconstruction,” he said. “But I didn’t know whether I’d shattered my kneecap or something like that.

“You could actually see the kneecap, which was a bit scary. You could see the bone. That scared me more than anything, the fact you could see everything down there. It wasn’t a good look.

“I’ve been playing for a fair while now, from the time I was eight and I’m now 32, and I’ve never run into a point post before like that, so there’s a first for everything. It was just one of those things.”

Carey’s injury triggered contrasting emotions among the 41,758 spectators, who had braved cold, wet conditions at AAMI Stadium.

An eerie silence followed the collision, with the crowd fearing he had suffered a season-ending knee injury.

Then the crowd booed loudly when the offending point post was shown on the giant video screen.

And the crowd cheered when an update of Carey’s injury – ‘no structural damage’ – was shown on the big screen, and even louder cheering erupted again when Carey’s appearance in the players’ race, with his knee stitched and bandaged, also was screened.

All this remarkable, emotional adulation for a champion the fiercely parochial Adelaide crowd used to boo every time he got near the ball – when he played for the Kangaroos – was not lost on Carey.

“Ever since I’ve arrived, the people of Adelaide have shown great support,” he said. “I’ve received thousands of letters from Adelaide people and Victorian people – and all over Australia, for that matter. The support’s been great.”

Carey said he had ‘copped a bit of a ribbing’ from team-mates for appearing to give the crowd the thumbs-up sign when he was standing in the players’ race during the last quarter.

“I was standing in the race and a guy hung over the race and said: ‘Wayne, how are you?’ And I went like that (thumbs up) as if to say, OK, and they put it up on the big screen,” he said. “So it looked like I was doing it to the whole crowd. I wasn’t but the response was great – overwhelming.”

Carey said he did not hear the crowd boo the point post.

“I was actually in getting stitched up, in a little bit of pain, so I didn’t hear that,” he said.
 
Originally posted by Jerome
"And with a bit of padding over the knee, I think we’ll get away with it.
Don't like the sound of this. I know its a big game but there is no point in risking him. I get the feeling that every time he bends his knee or goes to ground he will split it open again. They showed the vision of the stiches on channel 7 and it looks far from settled.

Carey to miss, Perrie to come back in.;)
 
Why would you run him?
It would be like running Phar Lap after he gashed his fetlock on the rails when youve got a good young colt cabable of going the distance.

Perrie will be fired up for a big "home" game and I dont think we should risk it bending (splitting). If infection sets in it would only get worse.
 
i don't think that wayne will play this week, looking at his knee on the news tonight its weird the club hasn't ruled him out already.

as much as i want him to play this weekend, he hopefully won't, because he's going to be valuable come september... and there's no point in risking him now, especially with perrie coming back into the side!
 

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Not point risking him. As bad as his knee is, he would still get a kick in the EJ Whitten Legends game tonight. Good comedy value this thing. Hammys tears everywhere.:D

They showed a vision of training today with Yellows going against 1st choice players. Rutten was playing for the 1st choice side (regular guernseys) and was leading out of the goal square. Could this mean he might get a game this week?????:confused:
 
I don't think Carey will play this weekend, even if his knee does make a miraculous recovery, they wouldn't risk it. It's best he's given the weekend off to avoid any future problems and also so that he has a full recovery for the following weekend. I think there is some psychological game happening with them saying that he might play...
 
Originally posted by SAbella
I think there is some psychological game happening with them saying that he might play...

I'm reading it the same way. And why not??? Why declare your hand to Freo so that they only have to plan for his absence. At least make their brains trust think about both possibilities and make the selection of their own side a bit more uncertain.

And then again he might play. :)

And then again he might not!! :D
 

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I think they will name him and fly him over just in case. I agree we should not risk him. He has until saturday to prove himself.

However I think he has stuffed up any mind games the club would like to play with Dockers by showing the injury. Carey should have kept it covered and kept people guessing.

In regards to Rutten, I think he could be a back up if Welsh does not come thru. Welsh has missed traning this week with back soreness.

Anne is correct, John Reid suggested a plan during the pre season that AFC may rest Carey in certain games to keep him fresh during the year. Howvere his weeks off injured have killed that plan.

Jerome
 
I really don't think that we are playing mind games. Its not our style really. I cannot remember the last time we played mind games when it came down to our line up.

Jerome you could be right RE: Rutten however, Tyson Edwards was certain that Welshy would play on Sunday.;)

Carey will get named and will be given until Saturday to prove his fitness. He might even travel with the side along with Goodwin.

BTW, Goody was on 5AA today for his regular segmant and I am sure you would all be pleased to know that plaster is off. The hand is still feeling a bit sore and weak. He has got to do exercises to try and strenghten it up a bit. Someone suggested squeezing a squash ball. He thinks he might be able to resume full training next week.;)
 
Originally posted by Stiffy_18
[BTW, Goody was on 5AA today for his regular segmant and I am sure you would all be pleased to know that plaster is off. The hand is still feeling a bit sore and weak. He has got to do exercises to try and strenghten it up a bit. Someone suggested squeezing a squash ball. He thinks he might be able to resume full training next week.;) [/B]

On the Sunday Footy Show last weekend, they said something about Goodwin having injured his knee or something as well as his wrist? I wasnt sure if that was just an innocent mistake with their injury updates???
 
Originally posted by SAbella
On the Sunday Footy Show last weekend, they said something about Goodwin having injured his knee or something as well as his wrist? I wasnt sure if that was just an innocent mistake with their injury updates???
Nah it wasn't a mistake. He had arthroscopy on his knee to clean it up last week. He started running already and he shouldn't miss anymore games than he was originaly going to miss with broken wrist.;)
 
I am all for Rutten getting a game, although I am not sure about this week really. Too much of a crunch game to have him as our second tall option in his first real match.

He definitely looks more ready for AFL to me than Hentschel. Maybe just a yard or two too slow it would seem.

A bit of bad luck earlier in the season as he would almost certainly have played from Round 9 had he not injured his thumb.

I would try him out against St Kilda next week in a three tall combo.

This lack of trying rookies continues to disturb me.
 
Carey will not play

Remember the gash on Jeff White's shin

Play it safe

As for rookies, we dont' need to play them just for the sake of it. Until they can dominate in the SANFL for weeks in a row they are not worth the risk unless we have to

On that front, one would think that Haydyn Skipworth has done enough to get on the list for next year.

I think Skippy Parker and Porplyzia will all be put on the main list next year. This means we have to de-list six to pick three in the draft

Certainties: Nelson Bickley
Probables: Schell Smith Crowell
Possibles: Shirley Marsh

Pretty tough on a couple which may see Skipworth being the unlucky one given our depth in Midfield talent.

Something to ponder over the coming weeks.
 

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If Carey has his way he will play so hopefully the medical staff stand firm & common sense prevails,

Good news on the Goody front Stiffy we will need his class & run come the end of the year pity we are not so confident regarding Mark Stevens,

Jars agree with you on playing rookies in crunch games just for the sake of it,
 
Originally posted by Stiffy_18
Nah it wasn't a mistake. He had arthroscopy on his knee to clean it up last week. He started running already and he shouldn't miss anymore games than he was originaly going to miss with broken wrist.;)

Phew! thats fantastic news :)
 

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