Crows consider netting the Sixers

[Alex99]

ADELAIDE Football Club chairman Bill Sanders has confirmed the Crows are considering the viability of purchasing the Adelaide 36ers basketball team.

"We have considered and are assessing that as a business proposition," Sanders said last night. "There is still a lot of work to be done. There is no conclusion one way or the other as yet. It's simply a matter of us assessing it as a commercial opportunity and we are still doing that."

Bidding for the Sixers, the Distinctive Homes Dome and the Adelaide Lightning has been extended from May 25 to June 9 because of strong buyer interest. Sales of the teams and Dome are not expected to recoup the money - believed to be between $12 million and $14 million - owed to taxpayers by the Basketball Association of SA.

It has been reported on ABC Radio news at 7AM that the Adelaide Crows will not be pursuing the sale of the Adelaide 36ers any further.

They confirmed that the club's board did look at buying the Adelaide 36ers and the Dome, but the AFC general manager of commercial operations, Phil Harper has said that the club won't be pursuing the matter any further. He said: "We can't see the value in it for Adelaide Football Club getting behind it".

Oh well it would have been nice to have a multi dimensional sporting club that involved both summer and winter activities but it’s not going to happen.

 

[RogerRabbit69]

I'm glad actually. Footy's almost a 12-month-a-year operation nowadays. I'm happy for the club to concentrate its efforts on its core business - football.

 

[maccas_no1]

I'm glad actually. Footy's almost a 12-month-a-year operation nowadays. I'm happy for the club to concentrate its efforts on its core business - football.

Exactly spot on Basketball is 2nd rate in this country. NBA or European Basketball or nothing.

 

[noddy]

Exactly spot on Basketball is 2nd rate in this country. NBA or European Basketball or nothing.

A few years back Basketball was seen by many to be the one sport in Australia that could mount a challenge against the supremacy of AFL footy.

Well those thoughts are now in decline as Basketball as of late has been struggling for popularity/$$ in this country.

Would like to have seen the 36s become part of our "rapidly expanding empire" (that little tid-bit is for you-know-who ) but not at a cost that could blow right out.

 

[Stiffy_18]

A few years back Basketball was seen by many to be the one sport in Australia that could mount a challenge against the supremacy of AFL footy.

Well those thoughts are now in decline as Basketball as of late has been struggling for popularity/$$ in this country.

Would like to have seen the 36s become part of our "rapidly expanding empire" (that little tid-bit is for you-know-who ) but not at a cost that could blow right out.

I agree.

I would have liked to see us net the sixers and bring them back to the level that they deserve to be at.

There would have been some strong positives in having Crows own the sixers.

 

[drakeyv2]

There would have been some strong positives in having Crows own the sixers.

How would owning the sixers help Adelaide?

 

[- PC -]

I'm glad actually. Footy's almost a 12-month-a-year operation nowadays. I'm happy for the club to concentrate its efforts on its core business - football.

So BHP should stick to making steel?

Companies can and do have diverse business operations. Just because the AFC are ''in football'' doesnt make the idea less viable. I would assume there would be a minimal AFC people involved.

I posted on the Port board when this came up in regards to Port buying it , that it is an extra revenue stream, it can be branded however you wish it to be and is an opportunity to cross promote and gain new members

Happy to see them having ideas outside the square

 

[Alex99]

I agree.

I would have liked to see us net the sixers and bring them back to the level that they deserve to be at.

There would have been some strong positives in having Crows own the sixers.

Economies of scale would have been a major influencing factor in the AFC decision to look into the Adelaide 36ers NBL licence

By having the AFC own the Adelaide 36ers the two organizations administration could become one and would have allowed for the club to save money, printing, larger catering contracts, (stuff like that) would have allowed them to implement ‘economies of scale’ If the AFC could have simply purchased the NBL licence then I guess they may have been more willing to venture into a diverse sporting market

One of the main reasons I genuinely think the AFC didn’t look into this venture with more gusto would have been the purchasing price of the dome; approximately $10,000,000 would have been extremely hard for them to recoup.

The Sixers in SA are a good thing and being owned by the Adelaide Football Club would have given them a few thousand extra supporters.

 

[drakeyv2]

It is an extra revenue stream, it can be branded however you wish it to be and is an opportunity to cross promote and gain new members

My understanding is that it is a money looser. Also do we want to be promoting a sport that is in competition with us for players?

 

[- PC -]

How would owning the sixers help Adelaide?

Ladies and Gentlemen the AFC are proud to announce our association with the Adelaide 36ers basketball side. Some of the benefits of this is that more people can get to see the great Adelaide sides compete with our Membership packages .

You can be a Dribbler ... kids membership to Crows and 36ers .

You can be a Passer ... teen membership to both clubs

You can be a Scorer.. adult membership to both clubs

The new and exciting range of memberships will provide parking at either stadium, you will recieve discounts on a wide variety of sporting gear at our new store ''36 West Lakes'' . You will also be pushed ahead of the waiting line to receive Full Membership at the AFC

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Cross promotions will draw a few more people to the BBall which increases $$. I can see many more benefits if it happened.

 

[showdownhero]

My understanding is that it is a money looser. Also do we want to be promoting a sport that is in competition with us for players?

Could be a draft pool

Look at huddo and big ivan

 

[Alex99]

My understanding is that it is a money looser. Also do we want to be promoting a sport that is in competition with us for players?

NBL = summer

AFL = winter

No in direct competition as European sporting clubs are owned by the same person all the time.

 

[- PC -]

My understanding is that it is a money looser. Also do we want to be promoting a sport that is in competition with us for players?

Investigate the reasons it is a money loser and half the problem is solved.

 

[drakeyv2]

NBL = summer

AFL = winter

No in direct competition as European sporting clubs are owned by the same person all the time.

I don't mind the club branching out into other businesses etc. My concern would be in buying a Franchise & stadium that are loosing money in a competition that is struggling to be viable, in a sport which seems to be going backwards.

Would we suddenly become responsible for basketball development in SA? If so how much football money would be diverted?

 

[drakeyv2]

Investigate the reasons it is a money loser and half the problem is solved.

My understanding is that they have investigated the reasons it is loosing money & that is why it is up for sale.

 

[Cap]

I don't mind the club branching out into other businesses etc. My concern would be in buying a Franchise & stadium that are loosing money in a competition that is struggling to be viable, in a sport which seems to be going backwards.

Would we suddenly become responsible for basketball development in SA? If so how much football money would be diverted?

I wouldn't get to concerned about the AFC buying it - by losing money it will probably help the Crows anyhow - they also have the funds to push into it to improve the stadium which is also beneficial to the Crows balance sheet (or Profit and Loss )

 

[Von Douche]

Would they be re-badged though or would they remain the Sixers?

I reckon it'd be awesome.

*Double-up memberships

*Membership to one entitles you to first access to all public access games of the other (except showdowns)

*Crows vs 36ers game becomes an even more popular annual event than it already is

*Further income to the ever expanding AFC

*Gives us further training facilities to utilise at our own free will

*Ivan could keep his training up in the off season

I reckon it'd put more bums on seats for the 36ers and help raise the profile of another sport in SA.

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

Waste of money. The novelty of basketball has died in this country.

 

[Von Douche]

Waste of money. The novelty of basketball has died in this country.

No need to worry mate, we won't be picking it up.

 

[drakeyv2]

Waste of money. The novelty of basketball has died in this country.

That's pretty much my opinion too. I can see plenty of potential benefits for the sixers, & Crows supporters who are basketball fans but I'm not convinced the benefits to the AFC would outway the risks. I would have thought we would be better off buying pubs & poker machines.

The only national sporting franchise based in Adelaide I see as being worth buying would be Adelaide United.

 

[RogerRabbit69]

So BHP should stick to making steel?

Companies can and do have diverse business operations. Just because the AFC are ''in football'' doesnt make the idea less viable. I would assume there would be a minimal AFC people involved.

That's hardly a valid comparison. Perhaps citing other sporting clubs that have diversified into other sports might have been more relevant.

I don't have a problem with Crows admin thinking outside the square - but I also don't think they need to take unnecessary risks just because they happen to lob in their laps.

Without being an expert on basketball politics, it seems most NBL clubs are very marginal operations from a financial perspective. There have been quite a few that have gone down the gurgler in the past decade. There's nothing to suggest the Sixers are much different.

The fact that the Crows have decided not to pursue things any further perhaps tells a story in itself.

Anyway, it's not going to happen, so we don't need to worry about it.

 

[RogerRabbit69]

Ladies and Gentlemen the AFC are proud to announce our association with the Adelaide 36ers basketball side. Some of the benefits of this is that more people can get to see the great Adelaide sides compete with our Membership packages .

You can be a Dribbler ... kids membership to Crows and 36ers .

You can be a Passer ... teen membership to both clubs

You can be a Scorer.. adult membership to both clubs

The new and exciting range of memberships will provide parking at either stadium, you will recieve discounts on a wide variety of sporting gear at our new store ''36 West Lakes'' . You will also be pushed ahead of the waiting line to receive Full Membership at the AFC

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Cross promotions will draw a few more people to the BBall which increases $$. I can see many more benefits if it happened.

Plenty of positives from a basketballing perspective - but not too many from the football side of things. The club's already over-subscribed as far as memberships go. And somehow I don't think people who have been on a waiting list for a couple of years would be big fans of your last suggestion.

 

[Alex99]

I don't mind the club branching out into other businesses etc. My concern would be in buying a Franchise & stadium that are loosing money in a competition that is struggling to be viable, in a sport which seems to be going backwards.

Would we suddenly become responsible for basketball development in SA? If so how much football money would be diverted?

The same exact question could have been asked of the initial board of the Adelaide Football Club. The AFL in the late 1980’s and early 1990’s was on no way a strong financial operation as it is today.

The AFL was standing still and no one could envisage the competition would be this successful. The NBL’s move in to Asia could lead to the same sort of revenue the AFL is experiencing now, and the move into Asia will give the competition a brand new lease on life, something the AFL experienced 15 years ago.

The NBL will not turn into a super competition over night as it will take 10 year to build up but it certainly has the potential to rival the AFL and A league soccer.

 

[Alex99]

Would we suddenly become responsible for basketball development in SA? If so how much football money would be diverted?

No they would not, BSA are still going to going just because they are selling the Sixer, Lightning and Dome doesn’t mean they are going to disband. They will still look after the grassroots basketball; they just won’t have the 36ers as a major asset.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

The concern would have been continuous losses being a burden on AFC. Just need to look at what happened to Collingwood & Carlton with their failed ventures with soccer.

If the 36'ers can be viable, then there may be some advantages of linking them to AFC.