Cups horses...Spring 4yo's

[sethlad]

I didnt have DANEVER in this thread to be honest,thought he was below the best 3yo's.
Lockyer mentioned him so I added him when I saw he was 1st up at MV.
Showed some pace & knocked up as expected,need to see him at his right distance before I can really comment

seth

 

[sethlad]

AJC Derby winner & C Cup fave FIUMICINO resumes in the Warwick Stks (1400m) tomorrow on a heavy track again.

seth

 

[sethlad]

John Hawkes has virtually given up hope of having FIUMICINO ready to win a Melb Cup.
Several markets already have him marked as "unlikely".

seth

 

[Bobby Beecroft]

The mare Princess Coup (although Australian bred) clearly best of the NZeders IMO.

Running in the Group 1 Mudgway Stakes over 1400m at Hastings.
Saturday at 2.30pm our time.
The 1st of the big NZ Races horses to have won in the past include Sunline, Xcellent & Starcraft, certainly worth a look.

This years field includes: Seachange $2.50 fav, Jokers Wild, Splashing Out (ex Aust owned), Princess Coup, Jadane, Cog Hill, Hasta La Ciao Ciao, amongst others. TAB is betting on it.

 

[Hanis]

The forgotten horse who ran a great Melbourne Cup - Maybe Better!!!

Has had 2 solid runs so far and runs in the Memsie - will get better as the distance increases

 

[sethlad]

Maybe Better's in the "Cup Locals" thread,he's 5 not 4.
He's in it up to his teeth.

seth

 

[sethlad]

METTRE EN JEU continues his prep tomorrow in R3,should run well.

DANEVER also runs tomorrow with his 4th gear change,Hayes said this morning that this horse is "smarter than his trainer"

seth

 

[sethlad]

METTRE EN JEU couldnt win the Ararat Cup on that run

seth

 

[plays tall 1]

Yes, Mettre En Jeu disappointed today.

Lee Freedman said this morning on 927 that they think he may be a little one-paced. He confirmed it...and it's not a particularly fast pace either.

 

[sethlad]

This thread now appears to be all about:
EFFICIENT,SIRMIONE & ESKIMO QUEEN

Was hard to miss ESKIMO QUEEN making ground in the Lets Elope after drawing the carpark.
C Cup is well on her radar.

seth

 

[plays tall 1]

Any news about Volcanic Star ? - seems to have fallen off the charts. Ran a great race in the Qld Derby running on from the rear (beaten a head by Empires Choice, beat Sirmione by a half head).

 

[sethlad]

Moroney has booked Craig Newitt for ESKIMO QUEEN through to at least the C Cup.
She has 50.5kg in both Cups.

Will head to the Underwood & Turnbull before Caulfield.

seth

 

[sethlad]

SIRMIONE (R9) & EFFICIENT (R6) continue their campaigns at MV tomorrow.

seth

 

[Lockyer24]

There was something about Efficients run I really liked today - on track for Cups

 

[plays tall 1]

Will Efficient run in the Caulfield Cup?

Lloyd Williams' comments on Zipping suggest that the Cox Plate and Melbourne Cup are the two races he wants to win. If so, Efficient may skip the CC.

 

[sethlad]

SIRMIONE was good in the last,being Bart's there's a lot of talk about MC but Luke Nolan was on Sky saying he's much better suited to Caulfield.

Career best run from EFFICIENT,seems to appreciate the MV surface.
Who'd know where he'll go but Lloyd is obsessed with the Cox Plate.
Admits he still hasnt got over Mahogany.

My guess would be Cox Plate/MC although IMO he's got nil chance of winning a Cox Plate.At least as a Gp 1 winner he'll get a run.
MC looks his race,despite history being against him.

seth

 

[sethlad]

ESKIMO QUEEN steps up to WFA in the Underwood tomorrow.
SIRMIONE backs up after last weeks unlucky run in the Naturalism (R9)

seth

 

[sethlad]

ESKIMO QUEEN :still cant believe how well she ran after being totally luckless.
This is a 4yo mare who's had 9 starts,is a 2400m winner & drops to 50.5kg in CC,ticks a lot of boxes

SIRMIONE: I dont know what to make of that,why was he ridden so close?

seth

 

[sethlad]

ESKIMO QUEEN raced like a 2400m horse in a well beaten Turnbull effort.
Will be ridden more forward with 50.5 kg in the C Cup.

EFFICIENT was awful but why he was ridden so close is anyone's guess.
Retains favouritism for Flemington,is going to the Cox Plate.
Jury's out for mine.

SIRMIONE ran on to midfield in the 1700m race,not sure why the drop in distance from previous run.Will need all Bart's magic IMO.

PRINCESS COUP booked a CC trip with a win in the Kelt.Like EQ is proven at the trip,some query on the depth but was strong at the end.

seth

 

[sethlad]

NZ mares ESKIMO QUEEN & PRINCESS COUP & US traveller ANAMATO to fly the flag for this thread in the CC.

Not really surprising I guess with the AJC Derby horses not making it.

seth

 

[Lockyer24]

The swooping mares!

All you could be worried about along with Douro Valley of knocking off the boss.

 

[Ricketts]

No danger of the boss not making 2400? Doing all the powers of work up front?

 

[Lockyer24]

You would think with his gatespeed he will get whatever sit he likes, and with only Cinque Cento or some cat trying to make a hero of itself he will sit first 3-4 no matter what. Doesn't appear to be any speed demons to overwork him.
You can only hope if Might n Power can see out the 2400 and the 3200 so could Maldy...