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Magnesium water. Haha. Sounds like a gimmick.
Seriously happy though we've got something that matches up with some of our other competitors
No it's awesome you can get it in your own pool instead of chlorine. You absorb magnesium better through your skin it's amazing for muscle recovery better than standing in the salt water in the ocean. They use it in those float Tanks.
As l said 'world class'.
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i'd say the club would be holding out until after trade period to see if they are worth keeping on, can find a trade to accomodate them or to delist them.
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I'm all for cutting edge technology and I'm super happy our club is taking things seriously with regard to physical performance. With the injuries we've had we need it!
In saying that,
Do you know of any research that actually shows its better? I can't imagine that these guys would be magnesium deficient so not too clear on how it is supposed to aid muscle recovery. Did a search of actual medical / sports medicine / physiology journals and couldn't find any actual evidence basis to support their beneficial effects.
These were the closest things if anyone interested.
https://jissn.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12970-015-0081-z (magnesium supplementation found to have no significant benefit)
https://jissn.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1550-2783-10-7 (apparently deep ocean mineral water leads to better recovery)
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0085486 (potentially some benefit in rats)
The fact that 'house of nature' luxury day spa for women, couples and groups is championing its benefits but it is not seen in any proper sports physiology / medical journals makes me think its more gimmick than anything else.
Theres always a placebo effect though so might make them play better if they believe in the magic of magnesium water!
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Im stunned by it. I think Jack Leslie is great. Don't know why he hasn't got more of a run personally. Clay..ahh..not so fussed
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How about you give us your opinion?
I think he is
Great size and speed for a tall defender
In his one game this year he had 15 possessions (7 contested) at 93% efficiency, 4 marks (3 contested), 9 spoils, 7 rebound 50's
Why wouldn't we give him more of a run? I think it would be a mismanagement of our assets just to let him go.
I haven't seen him play a hell of a lot being over here, that is why I was asking people who are closer to the action.
If he was seriously that good, surely he would have displaced Thompson is my thoughts. Thompson is purely shut down, provides no rebound. If Leslie can shut down and hit a target surely he goes in.
There are numerous studies and books about the benefits of magnesium and its benefits to athletes. Deficiency in minerals is always debatable with such things as even vitamin RDAs profiles being highly debated by many experts.
I would say if any AFL players would be losing magnesium and others minerals in sweat it would be those training in the sub tropics.
It's basically epsom salts which has been used for decades for sore muscle recovery. Loads of world class athletes swear by it.
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Succinctly, the reason Gatorade/Powerade is so good for athletes but is ****ing terrible for anyone else is because sodium, potassium, and magnesium are lost rapidly during intense exercise. Dehydration and sweating causes an electrolyte imbalance and when you've got players running a greater distance in two hours than you or I walk in a week, any form of rebalancing their electrolytes is ideal.
Especially when potassium and magnesium are central in muscle function, having magnesium water is one (small) improvement in the recovery of our players that may well get their muscles healing quicker, and reducing soft tissue injuries.
In terms of measurable improvement it's probably negligible but everything counts I suppose - the skin is very absorbent!
Especially when potassium and magnesium are central in muscle function, having magnesium water is one (small) improvement in the recovery of our players that may well get their muscles healing quicker, and reducing soft tissue injuries.
In terms of measurable improvement it's probably negligible but everything counts I suppose - the skin is very absorbent!
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He's got all the attributes to be good, and some of his NEAFL performances have been really good, but its hard to say how good he is untill he gets a continued run in the seniors, but Rocket seems to love the combo of May/Rory and doesn't seem to want the 3 talls down back as Day can swing there if needed.
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Would have been the perfect year to give him a few games to see what he's made of. Too bad he got injured.
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OP updated. So at this stage 6 players remain off contract (O'Meara, Prestia, Leslie, Nicholls, Cameron and Brooksby) and presumably all of them could be potentially traded. Given both Nicholls and Brooksby remain off contract I think the Suns are going to look into available ruckmen this trade period and if they can't get what they want they'll just bring back both Nicholls and Brooksby. Leslie seems like the kind of player that could be tacked onto the end of a trade just to get it over the line and I reckon Clay Cameron is in the firing line should the club require an extra spot on the senior list.
I've put Jesse Joyce on the senior list in the OP because he just signed a two-year extension and I believe he will be promoted to the senior list. That means there are currently 38 players on the senior list with O'Meara and Prestia definitely coming off that list. To the best of my knowledge, the Suns are allowed 40 players on their senior list in 2017 and must draft three players in the 2016 national draft in October. I'm fairly sure at least one rookie upgrade (Joyce) is included as one of the compulsory picks so the Suns will only be forced to draft two players next month but we obviously all presume they are going to draft more than that with the picks they currently have in their arsenal.
So basically they have enough room to upgrade Joyce, draft Bowes and Scheer, trade O'Meara and Prestia for picks and still have one space left for an extra player/draftee. Beyond that they will need to trade/delist current senior players to bring in more external players/draft picks.
I've put Jesse Joyce on the senior list in the OP because he just signed a two-year extension and I believe he will be promoted to the senior list. That means there are currently 38 players on the senior list with O'Meara and Prestia definitely coming off that list. To the best of my knowledge, the Suns are allowed 40 players on their senior list in 2017 and must draft three players in the 2016 national draft in October. I'm fairly sure at least one rookie upgrade (Joyce) is included as one of the compulsory picks so the Suns will only be forced to draft two players next month but we obviously all presume they are going to draft more than that with the picks they currently have in their arsenal.
So basically they have enough room to upgrade Joyce, draft Bowes and Scheer, trade O'Meara and Prestia for picks and still have one space left for an extra player/draftee. Beyond that they will need to trade/delist current senior players to bring in more external players/draft picks.
I didn't make this up......I copied and pasted from an article, I think was on the Suns website, referring to Tom's win in the B&F. I've searched again but can't find it.
Matchu has updated the OP and it's not listed. So does anyone know what's going down. Has he re-signed or not.
So gone:
Keough (rookie)
Stanley (nominated rookie)
Russell
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Going:
Prestia
O'Meara
Likely/rumored to go:
Cameron
Loersch (rookie)
Malceski (if rumor about his knee being gone is true and moving to pure coaching role)
Likely to be traded:
Leslie
Matera
Schade
Open up 9 senior spots and 2 rookie spots
If we bring in Bowes, Scheer, Williams and Joyce in through draft that would leave 5 senior spots and 3 rookie spots (2 if we rookie Cameron)
Keough (rookie)
Stanley (nominated rookie)
Russell
Tape
Going:
Prestia
O'Meara
Likely/rumored to go:
Cameron
Loersch (rookie)
Malceski (if rumor about his knee being gone is true and moving to pure coaching role)
Likely to be traded:
Leslie
Matera
Schade
Open up 9 senior spots and 2 rookie spots
If we bring in Bowes, Scheer, Williams and Joyce in through draft that would leave 5 senior spots and 3 rookie spots (2 if we rookie Cameron)
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If Loersch goes.
Cameron and Leslie Schade too
Who the hell plays full forward in the 2s
And who are full back and CHB lol
Yeah we have to re-sign Leslie. I would love to rookie Cameron too, not interested in Schade. I'm sure other clubs would be interested in Leslie and Cameron so it might be a problem.
If we do end up with Sicily and turn Day into a full time Key defender then losing Leslie and Schade won't be such a problem but you would think we have to draft a key defender this year somewhere.
Anyone know who we might be able to get in the second round?
Surely interstate teams without the massive feeder comps Melbourne/Adelaide/Perth have should be allowed to have more palyers on their list that can't be upgraded to play in the seconds
If you had a core group of journeyman playing NEAFL , maybe 6, that dont have the option of being rookied or upgraded it would make a huge difference to Queensland and NSW
If you had a core group of journeyman playing NEAFL , maybe 6, that dont have the option of being rookied or upgraded it would make a huge difference to Queensland and NSW
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One of the great circle jerks in Bigfooty history is happening on the Magpies board , with someone having info 2MP is about to request a trade to Collingwood , very entertaining over 100 posts , if you want to kill 15 mins i recommend a visit.
while the back and forth is entertaining based on a faceless rumour, I dont see the point in losing your mind over a rumour over a month before the trade period. Unless the player comes out and says it (Dion/Omeara), its all just a d*** measuring contest between supporters on here to see which team can be 'linked' to the most/best players.
yep, surely after looking at AFL affiliate teams in the VFL and seeing them half filled with local players, it should have been obvious that an AFL size list can't consistently put out 2 teams a week. Thats 44 players! And instead of mature local players to fill out the team, we have to put in 17 and 18 year old kids which while it does give them experience if they're good enough, means we just aren't competitive enough unless we have very minimal injuries and/or have a GWS like amount of star academy players consistently coming through.
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