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Damage control: Yet another St.Kilda scandal Part 2

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She is supposedly releasing 5 more pics when she land at 5pm. If she doesnt we all now she was bluffing but if she does more shit is going to hit the fan
 
She is supposedly releasing 5 more pics when she land at 5pm. If she doesnt we all now she was bluffing but if she does more shit is going to hit the fan
She's been bluffing for 3 days

And she has a meeting at court this morning she is not going to. She misses that, and releases more photos, she could land herself in some more hot water.

Girl needs serious help. She's losing grip fast
 
I'm half with you, half against you.

No doubt this girl needed help and should have been given help some time ago. Her parents and her school and community are probably most responsible for that. Now we don't know, maybe she was so far out of control that any help was rejected/useless.

But in terms of the media, they can't ignore this and I actually think, given what is now starting to become clear about all of his, that they have been reasonably softly, softly with her. I think there is a general understanding amongst the media and the broader community that this is a girl with some serious issues.

Had she been, say, a 25 year old and the facts the same, I think she would have been trn to shreds.
From what I read at least one interviewer has torn her to shreds. Anyway, I just think it's all a bit sad... for everyone involved.

To be fair, I think the fact here is that this girl is obviously hitting back after what she sees as a lack of empathy from the St Kilda footy club and the AFL following on from the pregnancy drama. Clearly she is throwing everything at this (tall tales and true) to get publicity with the clear aim of having her story told. Blind freddy can see she wants a book published as another way of hitting back. Whether her actions are logical or not it's clear that this is a child who needs urgent help. I seriously hope somebody in her life steps up to the plate and gets her that help, and soon.
 
From what I read at least one interviewer has torn her to shreds. Anyway, I just think it's all a bit sad... for everyone involved.

To be fair, I think the fact here is that this girl is obviously hitting back after what she sees as a lack of empathy from the St Kilda footy club and the AFL following on from the pregnancy drama. Clearly she is throwing everything at this (tall tales and true) to get publicity with the clear aim of having her story told. Blind freddy can see she wants a book published as another way of hitting back. Whether her actions are logical or not it's clear that this is a child who needs urgent help. I seriously hope somebody in her life steps up to the plate and gets her that help, and soon.

Yes, but the problem for her now is that she has shredded her credibility and in terms of her pregnancy....was she ever? Her version of events, that she was pregnant with twins, one miscarried, the other stillborn, just does not ring true in terms of both timeframe and what happened to the stillborn baby...where was it delivered? That will be the next thing examined no doubt.

Couple that with the fact that, if she was pregnant, what is there to conclude Sam Gilbert was the father.

This seems more about projection than "a fight for the truth".

This woman should have taken someones advice on all this. She is now paying for the fact that she hasn't and yes, in some ways that is unfair but she has attacked some innocent people who did not deserve to be collateral damage, not to mention the fact that she has smeared some very marketabkle brands and has potentially caused real financial losses.
 

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Question that might have gone unanswerd here...

If she actually took the photo and hence, had it from the get go - why no release the pics GF week? Is there a bigger week to ruin for the club? For the AFL?....

Only goes to build the case she never took it, and acquired it recently (looking thru twitter, looks like it was 35-40 days ago)...

The focus was 110% AFL that week, HUGE publicity.. Ruin preparations.. etc..

Over xmas, New years, hard time to get good coverage and the best journos are away (hutchie is in NYC, he would be all over this if here)...

just a thought
 
I'm tipping her and her representatives won't be at the Federal Court today as requested by Gilbert.


I'm tipping your right. It is all very well to tell porkies on Facebook and via Twitter but getting up in court and telling lies is a fast track to time.
 
Question that might have gone unanswerd here...

If she actually took the photo and hence, had it from the get go - why no release the pics GF week? Is there a bigger week to ruin for the club? For the AFL?....

Only goes to build the case she never took it, and acquired it recently (looking thru twitter, looks like it was 35-40 days ago)...

The focus was 110% AFL that week, HUGE publicity.. Ruin preparations.. etc..

Over xmas, New years, hard time to get good coverage and the best journos are away (hutchie is in NYC, he would be all over this if here)...

just a thought

Exactly. If she took the photos it wouldve been well before september so she would have had them in her possesion before the GF's and would've been the biggest disruption to a Grand Final in a long time if she released them then.
 
Yes, but the problem for her now is that she has shredded her credibility and in terms of her pregnancy....was she ever? Her version of events, that she was pregnant with twins, one miscarried, the other stillborn, just does not ring true in terms of both timeframe and what happened to the stillborn baby...where was it delivered? That will be the next thing examined no doubt.

Couple that with the fact that, if she was pregnant, what is there to conclude Sam Gilbert was the father.

This seems more about projection than "a fight for the truth".

This woman should have taken someones advice on all this. She is now paying for the fact that she hasn't and yes, in some ways that is unfair but she has attacked some innocent people who did not deserve to be collateral damage, not to mention the fact that she has smeared some very marketabkle brands and has potentially caused real financial losses.
I don't disagree with that at all. What I am saying though is that her credibility to her at this stage is not particularly relevant or important. What she is angry about we don't necessarily know save that she is angry and that is pretty self evident. What she is doing is akin to screaming at the top of her voice from the highest hill. To me, although blind freddy can see that the players have been harmed, it's not about punishing her, it's about getting her some much needed help to get over whatever it is that has her so worked up. I can't comment one way or another about the pregnancy but given her actions I'd hardly rule it out either.
 
Question that might have gone unanswerd here...

If she actually took the photo and hence, had it from the get go - why no release the pics GF week? Is there a bigger week to ruin for the club? For the AFL?....

Only goes to build the case she never took it, and acquired it recently (looking thru twitter, looks like it was 35-40 days ago)...

The focus was 110% AFL that week, HUGE publicity.. Ruin preparations.. etc..

Over xmas, New years, hard time to get good coverage and the best journos are away (hutchie is in NYC, he would be all over this if here)...

just a thought
I think she has caused enough trouble as it is.
 
Murray Schoorman said:
Will @its_k_isabella be at the interlocutory relief order to be heard at 10:30am today in the Federal Court Room 6A before Justice Marshall?

Girl in question said:
Not a chance.

Writing is on the wall..
 
I'm tipping your right. It is all very well to tell porkies on Facebook and via Twitter but getting up in court and telling lies is a fast track to time.
She won't be there because she physically can't get there. She's in QLD and won't be back until after the hearing. In any case, it's only an interlocutory hearing and the likelihood is that all that will happen is that the court order will be extended.
 

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She won't be there because she physically can't get there. She's in QLD and won't be back until after the hearing. In any case, it's only an interlocutory hearing and the likelihood is that all that will happen is that the court order will be extended.


I knew about it last night. There are flights from Queensland to Melbourne every hour. It is not that she "can't" be there. But she won't be there.
 
I knew about it last night. There are flights from Queensland to Melbourne every hour. It is not that she "can't" be there. But she won't be there.
...and as far as I know she doesn't have to be there. Any solicitor worth 2c would be in a position to quickly get an adjourment if they want to.
 
On her twitter she called Steven Baker a kitchen bitch back on 16 Nov. She says get ready for damage control to St Kilda FC on the same day. twitter account zacd sends a message to her on the 16th saying that is a nice pic and you will be famous soon. on the 19th she says Well Well Well Lookie what I have here. I'm seeing photos.

from all of that it looks like she only got the pics in early to Mid November. If she was really pissed with St Kilda and wanted damage control then she wouldve posted these photos on the 24th of September, seeing as though she "took" the photos back in March.
 
...and as far as I know she doesn't have to be there. Any solicitor worth 2c would be in a position to quickly get an adjourment if they want to.

That's right but if she is a no show, judgements can be made against her without her representation. Gilbert may for example apply for the return of any photos in her possession.

If she does turn up to fight the injunction then she may be asked questions that she has in the past provided false answers too.

So the only incentive not tio turn up to me would be to avoid that. Otherwise she is simply not safeguarding her interests.
 
Well half an hour until the court hearing. Dont think she is going to make it will she?
 

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That's right but if she is a no show, judgements can be made against her without her representation. Gilbert may for example apply for the return of any photos in her possession.

If she does turn up to fight the injunction then she may be asked questions that she has in the past provided false answers too.

So the only incentive not tio turn up to me would be to avoid that. Otherwise she is simply not safeguarding her interests.
Hard to know what it's all about but it certainly sounds like they're just seeking to extend the injunction. They won't have much ability to question her about anything much if she has legal representation. Of course if she's silly enough not to be represented then that's another story.
 
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