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Would like to see the disturbance it's caused to our midfield during the finals in 09 (Brad Scott) and 11 (Mark Neeld) stopped.

Maybe do what the NFL does and only allow contact with coaches once their team is out of contention.
 

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handy point said:
Would like to see the disturbance it's caused to our midfield during the finals in 09 (Brad Scott) and 11 (Mark Neeld) stopped.

Maybe do what the NFL does and only allow contact with coaches once their team is out of contention.
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2nd paragraph absolutely spot on clubs who have not made the finals should not be able to coerce assistants from clubs that have,not to break contracts until the season is finished for everyone it happened to the Pies and Geelong.

Do not have a problem with it when the season is finished but reading some reports about it some assistants were putting all their clubs secrets and IT in their resumes and that is not on during finals.
 
Glad AFL is working to close this anomaly,it's completely absurd that in a game as professional as this, that teams can be left in the position of losing key coaching personnel at such a crucial time.

Of course it makes a difference to on field performance, to think otherwise is naive.

However, the counter argument has merit as well in that a newly appointed coach has to acquaint himself with the new list and who stays and goes and who to pick in the National Draft but team performance in finals is what it's all about and should take priority
 
Coaching and assistant positions should be sacrosanct until the clubs concerned are out of contention for the flag. Its difficult enough managing training loads, injuries, on field time and playing lists through the finals without any added distractions.
 
Something I find very strange about this whole coaching poaching situation is the lack of consideration for integrity.

In my industry (not football), any prospective job candidate who is prepared to walk out on their current employer and leave them in the lurch would get a big red texta through their name.

Consider this: Had Neeld said to Melbourne "Hey, I would be honoured to be considered for the role of your Senior Coach. I'm very interested. However, I am committed to supporting my present employer through the current finals series. I would only be available to take part in any selection process at the conclusion of my present employer's season."

Now the reason that this wouldn't work is because Melbourne were competing with Adelaide and Western Bulldogs (and though they didn't know it at the time, Freo / St Kilda) and they wanted to avoid any disadvantage by being late to the marketplace.

If the AFL imposed a rule stating "No interviewing for coaching roles until after the Grand Final" then I don't think the teams would be unhappy - it would simply mean a level playing field.

Some pundits might say that this wouldn't work because it would interfere with trade week. I would contend that this is far more important than trade week. As important as it was trading Darren Jolly from Sydney, appointing the right Senior Coach is far more important than that.

Move trade week to the week before the draft.
 
76woodenspooners said:
Something I find very strange about this whole coaching poaching situation is the lack of consideration for integrity.

In my industry (not football), any prospective job candidate who is prepared to walk out on their current employer and leave them in the lurch would get a big red texta through their name.

Consider this: Had Neeld said to Melbourne "Hey, I would be honoured to be considered for the role of your Senior Coach. I'm very interested. However, I am committed to supporting my present employer through the current finals series. I would only be available to take part in any selection process at the conclusion of my present employer's season."

Now the reason that this wouldn't work is because Melbourne were competing with Adelaide and Western Bulldogs (and though they didn't know it at the time, Freo / St Kilda) and they wanted to avoid any disadvantage by being late to the marketplace.

If the AFL imposed a rule stating "No interviewing for coaching roles until after the Grand Final" then I don't think the teams would be unhappy - it would simply mean a level playing field.

Some pundits might say that this wouldn't work because it would interfere with trade week. I would contend that this is far more important than trade week. As important as it was trading Darren Jolly from Sydney, appointing the right Senior Coach is far more important than that.

Move trade week to the week before the draft.
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This is the best result for all. Playing in the finals is the ultimate in the game. To think a team can lose a key coaching staff member during this time is crazy.

I understand a team appointing a new senior coach needs all the time to can get for list management decisions, but just move trade week back to 2 or 3 weeks after the GF (as long as it is before pre-season training can commence). I think a week before the draft is a bit late as traded players wouldn't be able to commence pre-season training with the rest of the list.
 
handy point said:
Would like to see the disturbance it's caused to our midfield during the finals in 09 (Brad Scott) and 11 (Mark Neeld) stopped.

Maybe do what the NFL does and only allow contact with coaches once their team is out of contention.
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Its odd thats not just a given, as someone said , any other workplace you give your notice and stay your time, unless collingwood agreeed to him leaving earlier and he did offer to stay to the end.

Just courtesy really, what were melbourne really getting out of him for that extra week or two in the finals series they werent in.
 

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The real disappointing this on the article is the part where it mentions at least one assistant downloaded confidential key strategies and club IP to take as part of their presentation.

This is why clubs are trying to draw the line. It is far too great a conflict of interest and leaves clubs vulnerable with whatever competitive advantages they are trying to create and implement only for a selfish assistant to go and undo all that hard work.

There needs to be some boundaries. Downloading club IP and taking it to another club without even the guarantee that you are going to get the job leaves a very sour taste for all parties involved.
 
OniAu said:
Its odd thats not just a given, as someone said , any other workplace you give your notice and stay your time, unless collingwood agreeed to him leaving earlier and he did offer to stay to the end.

Just courtesy really, what were melbourne really getting out of him for that extra week or two in the finals series they werent in.
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They were contributing to a destabilizing of the pies is what they were getting. Just go on the main board and you will find many of the most rabid anti pies posts originate from melb supporters.:rolleyes:
 

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