Oppo Camp Dangerfield's Gone (Zero tolerance to trolling) - READ THREAD LINKED IN OP BEFORE POSTING

[Smithtastic33]

In that case, what do you expect to realistically receive? (Assuming he goes to a Victorian club in a trade).

Realistically

Pick 10, cockatoo and a 3rd first choice 22 player

 

[SydCrow]

Honestly, it is. You want three Round One picks for a single out of contract player. Essentially picks 9, 10 and say 14.

As I wrote above there are myriad machinations where we pay less than that for him. We are not mortgaging the future of the club by giving, 2014, 2015 and 2016's first round draft picks away.

mate we survived without 2012 and 2013 picks. And that was just to get rid of Tippett for nothing.

 

[King Elvis]

BUT....it could also be a real benefit to the club if we play our cards right

If i said "sell Dangerfield" to get 2 x Jake Levers and a Matt Crouch .....would you say yes?

PLUS ....we still retain our first round picks as well ....or trade for Bennell or Menzel

I'd say no.

Best player in the competition, and a pure match winner/game breaker, is incredibly rare and valuable.

 

[manboob]

Why the interest in Cockatoo? Seems like a nothing player to me.

You've no interest in a 72 inch black **** that can do this?

and

 

[Tyls83]

The Geelong and Port people trolling through this period are the lowest of the low and Karma will catch up scumbags

 

[Troy Nation]

Sociopath. His airport interview yesterday confirmed it for me.

Which one, the one in Adelaide that had him say nothing but in Melbourne he turned into a chatty cathy!

 

[VKCrow]

Fak me adelaide must be a shat place to live and work. Woosha is out and off to essendon and Clanger is out too. What is up with SA??!! Faaaaaaaaaaaaark.........
I left 12 years ago to live in WA :/

 

[manboob]

You're buying the future of your club, by poaching the best player in the game.

If it means you need to pay fair value, which the above is, then so be it.

See this is where we are at odds. I don't think Dangerfield is worth three first round picks. He's not the best player in the league, he's great but still behind Fyfe and Ablett. My main point still stands you are not going to get those picks for him - so something else will have to be agreed to.

 

[Jack McKraken]

I've yet to see someone reliably answer this. It certainly changes the landscape of the whole situation if it's possible.

It's not overly clear from the Rules. It doesn't expressly say one way or the other. The relevant Rule just says that if we match, he can nominate for the Draft.

I would interpret that as you then follow the Draft rules de novo, which means he can reset his price. I would argue that if the AFL meant the alternative, the RFA rule would state that "he can nominate for the Draft on the same terms as the Offer".

Interestingly, we can either match the Offer, or offer something else entirely - as in a godfather deal to make him stay (not that I think this is even a remote chance of happening).

 

[Jack McKraken]

Danger's leaving

#putoutyourshanks

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Anyone got 30 pieces of silver?

 

[Infra Ted]

You've no interest in a 72 inch black **** that can do this?

and

meh.

 

[manboob]

Anyone got 30 pieces of silver?

Ask Gary Ablett he knows a guy.

 

[Smithtastic33]

The Geelong and Port people trolling through this period are the lowest of the low and Karma will catch up scumbags

What else do you expect?

 

[FR0GGY]

You've no interest in a 72 inch black **** that can do this?

and

zero interest in a 72 inch black ****

 

[Troy Nation]

See this is where we are at odds. I don't think Dangerfield is worth three first round picks. He's not the best player in the league, he's great but still behind Fyfe and Ablett. My main point still stands you are not going to get those picks for him - so something else will have to be agreed to.

Two first round picks is bare minimum. That is very fair and reasonable, I would be disappointed if Geelong refused to offer that.

 

[PrideOf]

Walsh had Dangerfield pegged.

Not enough likes for this.

Since phil mentioned team first footy, it's been obvious to me that there's one player who doesn't really fit.

 

[manboob]

Two first round picks is bare minimum. That is very fair and reasonable, I would be disappointed if Geelong refused to offer that.

I don't think it's bare minimum. I think it's what is fair.
Do the picks both have to come from Geelong or would you be happy with the compo and our pick 9?
It's probably the better deal to be honest. Our R1 next year could be anything.

 

[Captain Morgan]

So we're short one individual who didn't buy in to the team first culture, and we have $1M to spend in trade week.

Seems alright to me. As Phil would say, "next man up".

Phil would have also said "I don't want to talk about Patrick, he has put his own interests before the team - that's fine he us free to make that decision. We have other players that will now embrace this opportunity and make the most of it. Football is not an individual sport. The sun will rise tomorrow and we will keep playing crows footy " followed by the odd way he licked his lips.

 

[feenix67]

Which one, the one in Adelaide that had him say nothing but in Melbourne he turned into a chatty cathy!

The Melbourne one

 

[Jack McKraken]

If it came to it, wouldn't he make some ridiculous price $1.5 million or something, for a 2 year deal and Geelong would renegotiate contracts to get him there then sign on for $400,000 for the next 3? Or have I got that all wrong in the way it works

In theory yes.

But the AFL, the Crows and probably half the other AFL teams will be watching like, well, hawks to see what the new contract is, and be ready to pounce for draft tampering when its for peanuts. The real problem here is that the RFA offer the Cats make sets what they think his value is and the only explanation for why there would be a huge first contract followed by a "second" contract for far less is to price him out of the market now on the understanding that he would accept less later.

The relevant question may be "why didn't you go into the draft with a 5 year contract for the price over both contracts?"

 

[King Elvis]

See this is where we are at odds. I don't think Dangerfield is worth three first round picks. He's not the best player in the league, he's great but still behind Fyfe and Ablett. My main point still stands you are not going to get those picks for him - so something else will have to be agreed to.

I think Ablett's best is behind him.

Fyfe is a star, but I rate Danger above him - a bit more X-factor, game breaking type.

Either way, I say best, you say third best.

Not a huge gulf.

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

Walsh had Dangerfield pegged.

Harsh but fair

 

[TubbsFarquhar]

Fak me adelaide must be a shat place to live and work. Woosha is out and off to essendon and Clanger is out too. What is up with SA??!! Faaaaaaaaaaaaark.........
I left 12 years ago to live in WA :/

Port have no problem keeping their players.

 

[DoubleBlue2]

The personal attacks on Dangerfield are pathetic, he is the same man people adored a week ago. Get over yourselves ffs. If you didn't see this coming you're a bloody idiot anyway.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

It's academic anyway. He's going nowhere.

Honestly don't know much about Cockatoo but his stat sheet is a disaster. His highlights don't mean a hell of a lot to me. Even Vickery has a highlight reel.