Oppo Camp Dangerfield's Gone (Zero tolerance to trolling) - READ THREAD LINKED IN OP BEFORE POSTING

[King Notorious]

The offers are laughable.

**** it. I would like to personally send him to the draft like

 

[Don Muraco]

Sounds like Conners is on a bonus for getting campaignerfield to Geelong.

 

[6BTS]

Nah - I didn't hear that at all. I thought Wells was much more along the lines of a trade being quite possible ... but they wouldn't give up everything for one player. Which is right. They will give up the minimum to satisfy AFC - nothing more.

If we get Pick 14 from compo then we hand over Mackay for pick 9 ... then I'll be all for it. I am not looking for AFC to match AT ALL COSTS. No-one should. We are looking for the best outcome for us - couldn't care less about what Geelong do. This is just an example, don't shoot me for including Mackay's name - but I do think Mackay would like a new start though ... he is stagnating and going to rot in the SANFL at this rate. Surely his ego would want him to have a shot at another club?

We would then have Pick 9, 13, 14 and no Mackay hanging around our necks for the next 3 years. We would have some real currency to trade for players - and we would walk out of the Trade Period with a better list and a couple of low picks to replenish the list with young talent inside the top 20.

I know we all want our club to be tough and take a stand - but we should really want our club to be smart as well. Get us what we need, I don't care about the details of how or from whom.

I'm all for Mackay being traded for Pick 9. I'd prefer Geelong give us this years and next years number 1 picks considering this is not the best draft class coming through.

 

[footy4ever]

Every noise from the club on this issue is about matching as the fans nor club will not accept the compo pick and are sick of players leaving. If you need a quote then you haven't been listening.

Wait - had to read back a few more….OH! , conceded the fans want them to match…now we're on the same wavelength. I thought your post meant the AFC had conceded they had to take pick 14. LOL

 

[1970crow]

Paul Connors is just doing his job, trying to get Dangerfield to Geelong in the easiest way possible for his client. All he cares about it making it easy for Dangerfield not Adelaide or Geelong. Once Adelaide match then I'd expect he would put pressure on Geelong as that will be what will make things easier for his client.

Good point. One thing I'd like is a bit more accuracy. It's very hard to argue that Patty gave us 8 years of wonderful service. We knew going in that he was going to spend his first year finishing year 12, so I have no issue with that. But that first year needs to be described for what it was and it certainly wasn't wonderful service to our club.

 

[ManInTheArena]

Are they saying with the pick 14 compensation as well as proposed by David King?

Nope. Apparently a fringe player and pick 9 is what Patrick ****ing Dangerfield is worth.

 

[baldandbroke]

I'm all for Mackay being traded for Pick 9. I'd prefer Geelong give us this years and next years number 1 picks considering this is not the best draft class coming through.

We hear that all the time - but the picks under 25 are always pretty good. It is later in the draft that "experts" are saying it gets shallow.

I wouldn't listen to them, they just make crap up all the time. None of them pick out the gems and identify the duds without hindsight.

 

[1970crow]

That interview was just cringe worthy. He wants first rounders for every player, had no idea what Adelaide can and cant do, apparently Danger and Henderson are under different rules even if Adelaide match. Holy smokes and people were abusing Noble!

No wonder the Geelong board still haven't shaken their misconceptions. Highly paid AFL employees can't even get it right. Although, anyone that is highly regarded by Trigg has an immediate asterisk next to their name.

 

[footy4ever]

Sounds like Conners is on a bonus for getting campaignerfield to Geelong.

I wouldn't want to make any false accusations but I wouldn't be at all surprised if there is some 'intangible' incentive.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

The fact Geelong and Connors made those statements is great news.. What we didn't want was them saying Adelaide are cooperating and have agreed to terms .

Geelong and Connors are simply trying to "embarrass" the Crows into a "soft" deal ......old old negotiation ploy which Fagan will simply smirk

 

[1970crow]

They havent really. They havent said anything more than 'its an option'.

I think they said that they planned to "match any reasonable offers" or 'all', I can't remember exactly.

 

[Don Muraco]

I wouldn't want to make any false accusations but I wouldn't be at all surprised if there is some 'intangible' incentive.

Exactly.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

I think the Crows have conceded they have no choice. The fan backlash would be enormous!

Think you're right ...the club will factor in the "fans" mood on this one

 

[Wood_Duck]

Nope. Apparently a fringe player and pick 9 is what Patrick ******* Dangerfield is worth.

Dont confuse what he is worth and what we will get under the current circumstance. You never achieve a players worth the minute he says hes going.

 

[Iron]

Connors sounds like a man whose toes are sore.

Exciting stuff. When was the last time we stepped on any?

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Gee Connors has a high number of players on the move each year ......obviously not a fan of talking players into staying

Sometimes with these guys ...it's the thrill of the "game" that excites them

Plus it's great publicity at draft time with new draftees looking for new managers ......what better time of the year to be high profile in the media

But that's just the cynic in me

 

[1970crow]

Stephen Wells was also on and he didn't sound like they were ready to give up low picks.

Said compo pick was fair

The compo pick is fair if assessed against what Hawthorn got for Buddy and if we choose to not excercise our right to match. It will be band 1, the maximum allowed under the rules, so by definition it will be fair. Of course, none of that matters if we do end up matching. Fair will be determined by different metrics altogether.

 

[JP Sauce]

Gee Connors has a high number of players on the move each year ......obviously not a fan of talking players into staying

Sometimes with these guys ...it's the thrill of the "game" that excites them

Plus it's great publicity at draft time with new draftees looking for new managers ......what better time of the year to be high profile in the media

But that's just the cynic in me

I'd say that's probably the general concenus, not cynical at all. Player managers are 100% in it for themselves.

 

[Brentmeister]

Gee Connors has a high number of players on the move each year ......obviously not a fan of talking players into staying

Sometimes with these guys ...it's the thrill of the "game" that excites them

Plus it's great publicity at draft time with new draftees looking for new managers ......what better time of the year to be high profile in the media

But that's just the cynic in me

It makes perfect sense. Almost every time a player goes to a new club they're receiving a better salary than they were previously. It's the price a team has to pay to lure a player.

Higher salary means more commission for scumbags like Connors. So loyalty goes out the door because he doesn't give a s*** if you want to be a one-club player. He'll always steer you towards a team which will pay more so that Connors can send his kids to private schools.

 

[1970crow]

As long as we are prepared to let him go to a draft and that is something that Geelong/Patty want to avoid, then we should do ok. If they are prepared to risk the draft, then we're screwed. Simples.

 

[ManInTheArena]

Dont confuse what he is worth and what we will get under the current circumstance. You never achieve a players worth the minute he says hes going.

Yes, I imagine that would be two first rounders or a first rounder and a player like Cockatoo. Not Murdoch and a first rounder. That's like us trading in Fyfe for pick 9 and Ricky Henderson. It just wouldn't happen.

 

[ManInTheArena]

Stephen Wells was also on and he didn't sound like they were ready to give up low picks.

Said compo pick was fair

That's when we go in and say we want three first rounders. That's how this shit works.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

It makes perfect sense. Almost every time a player goes to a new club they're receiving a better salary than they were previously. It's the price a team has to pay to lure a player.

Higher salary means more commission for scumbags like Connors. So loyalty goes out the door because he doesn't give a s*** if you want to be a one-club player. He'll always steer you towards a team which will pay more so that Connors can send his kids to private schools.

My main point is the high profile nature of trades this years helps attract the new draftees looking for managers ....who see his success rate at moving clubs

That's appealing for families

 

[1990crow]

That's when we go in and say we want three first rounders. That's how this shit works.

Yep or 2 top 5 picks. Gets us the minimum we deserve. 2 first rounders and a quality player.

 

[Sanguinarius]

I hate this stupid negotiating via the media.