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Who said anything about that being the deal? Just saying that Gregson might be an option given he has a lot of friends at the AFC.
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This guy said it.
Didn't they do something similar when Brennan went to Gold Coast?
I think he's the better player but can he push up successfully into the midfield? Am I overrating Gore or would he be the better prospect (esp if we don't get Redden).
Also 9 + Gregson (a forward pocket) is nowhere near good enough imo…I wonder how he will figure into the trade.
My guess is Geelong will try to palm us pick 9 and a player worth a 2nd rounder. If our club has any balls whatsoever we should demand their other 1st as well but I'd bet we will settle for their 2nd rounder…thus leaving Geelong another 1st (2016) for Henderson.
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Sloane was taken at pick 44. I don't think that draft number holds much relevance anymore. Personally, I'd want a bit more than pick 9 and Gregson too, but I think he's shown that he was pretty bloody good value at pick 47.
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Boy can play. Was playing 1sts as a yr10 at Sacred Heart. Has played well for the Cats since going over. Was a good pick by them.
Who said all the good players are in the first round? Remember Rory?
Exactly, that would be an absolute disgrace though I would say Gregson's value has risen to the 20-35 mark now.
It should be 9 + 2016 1st + Gregson.
Dangerfield is a TOP 5 PLAYER IN THE WHOLE COMP…we should not be getting slops.
But you aren't factoring in the risk of getting a guy through the National Draft.
The pick number is irrelevant once they hit the field.
Using your logic, Pick 9 + Jack Watts (pick 1) is a win
Gregson has shown he was a bargain at that pick. Like Sloane who was taken at #44 - or do you not rate him either?
Correct.
Just as we would be carrying on like the Geelong supporters if Motlop for instance said he wanted to come home to Adelaide.
Good luck
Yep, and there is no need to sell Adelaide the place to him. He sees Adelaide with rose-coloured glasses rather than the other way around.
Dangerfield was pick 10, how can we demand 2 first round picks?But you aren't factoring in the risk of getting a guy through the National Draft.
The pick number is irrelevant once they hit the field.
Using your logic, Pick 9 + Jack Watts (pick 1) is a win
Gregson has shown he was a bargain at that pick. Like Sloane who was taken at #44 - or do you not rate him either?
Pick taken means dickall. If you wanted to go based on the # they were taken we should ask for Tambling to come back because he must be a superstar. Gregson has performed like a player worth a lot more than pick 47. From what I've seen he's probably worth something like an early second rounder/last first rounder.
Combined with pick 9 it's still far below Dangerfield's worth. But it's pretty clear we won't get his worth in the current system. Just have to make most of a bad situation.
Agreed.
'Should' and 'will' are two very diff things!
If it's 9 + Gregson it also needs a 2nd rounder as well (despite 1st being justified).
If no Gregson then 2 1sts remains the minimum acceptable.
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but that is sooo different ...
I mean Geelong and Hawthorn are in the same league / level where as Adelaide is a low-end feeder club
Why would Geelong give up a top player to direct competitor like the Hawks? Adelaide giving up Danger to Geelong is just giving a top-bloke a real chance at success while allowing his family to drive to the games ... right?
</thickest sarcasm you can muster>
Their supporters seem to have a hugely overinflated view of their club and their sense of self-entitement is laughable.
Geelong are a middle of the road club who have been punching above their weight due to a once in a generation group of players and were hugely assisted early via father/son players that they obtained for next to nothing.
Def has performed above 47 but at his size will he ever be able to be a full time mid? If his ceiling is a forward pocket then that also limits the ceiling on his worth.
Gregson prob won't happen and Menzel is also a pipe dream atm but could we imagine a forward line from these options:
Walker, Jenkins, Lynch, Betts, Cameron, Menzel, Gregson, Knight…WOW!
Desperately need to bolster the midfield to stay in finals hunt though.
Walker, Jenkins, Lynch, Betts, Cameron, Menzel, Gregson, Knight…WOW!
Desperately need to bolster the midfield to stay in finals hunt though.
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We need rangy flanker/wing types that are quick but most importantly can use the ball well. I don't have a problem with our midfield, particularly if Crouch gets back to full fitness and stays there.
Look at Hawthorn.
Look at Hawthorn.
Problem is that this year's draft is (reportedly) pretty rubbish. So 2nd round pick this year is more or less worthless in the context of the Dangerfield trade. So if we want a 2nd round pick from Geelong, we would want their 2016 2nd, not this year. And they can't trade their 1st AND 2nd next year, which means they wouldn't be able to trade next year's 1st for Henderson in that case.
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If their supporters are any indication of how the GFC are gonna handle this, then there is not doubt that this is going down mediation
I don't buy this. I bet that in a couple of years when we look back at the 2015 draft, this idea that it is weak is proven to be bulldust.
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Hopefully Curtly Hampton will address some of this.
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There is no disputing Danger's worth, but unfortunately we're not going to get close to his value as a trade.
The various levels of posturing and posting make me believe that we will not get what Dangerfield is worth on the open trade market. Plus, in the background we have an AFL which is very keen to see its interpretation of its rules work. This will be the first Free Agency challenge. The AFL will stop at nothing to see that it is enacted in a way that protects Free Agency and to ensure it is quite distinct from a typical trade transaction. Somewhere at sometime, a terse whisper will come down the line to support of Free Agency (Geelong) and warn against creative trading (Adelaide)
I've given up on that dream; the dream of another Judd trade revisit. I think the best we can hope for is their pick 9 plus a player that will get straight into our best 22, and perhaps something else. That is most likely to next years Round 1 or 2 from Geelong or perhaps a whole of picks upgrade from them to us - they give us 28, 46 and 64 and we give them 32, 50 and 68.
I've given up on that dream; the dream of another Judd trade revisit. I think the best we can hope for is their pick 9 plus a player that will get straight into our best 22, and perhaps something else. That is most likely to next years Round 1 or 2 from Geelong or perhaps a whole of picks upgrade from them to us - they give us 28, 46 and 64 and we give them 32, 50 and 68.
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