Darcy Daniher
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mj23
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I hope O'keefe starts playing soon we took arisk picking him up. and remember we still get Craig Bird with our last pick hopefully that is our future midfieldI hope the Swans pull a surprise then.
If not, is there any Warrnambool boys in the draft this year like Daniel O'Keefe last year that we could pick up with pick 11?
ari18
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yeh neither did i.
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With a couple of good young players on our list, we're not in that bad a shape especially if we pick up Darcy Daniher.
And dont forget the Irish star Brendon Murphy.
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I always thought he was a kpp but I could be wrong though.
That is my understanding, yes. I won't guarantee 100% that I'm correct, but I have not seen any indication that the player's right to choose which of his father's clubs that he goes to has changed.
ari18
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Darcy Daniher – 192cm, 80kg-Calder Cannons. (CHB) Darcy has been played forward and back, sometimes in the same game, all year in the TAC Cup. When he has played forward he has shown he can kick goals. Can take a good grab and he is a free flowing runner who moves around the ground well. During the Champs he played mainly in defence and although he was not a stand out he did play pretty well. His kicking is pretty strong and he hits targets pretty well. Has had a lot of games where he has had 15 to 20 disposals which isn’t bad for a big bloke. Hasn’t really been outstanding too often but has played solid footy all the way through.
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ari18
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apparantly this is how it works:
every club in the competition nominates the pick they would use to select the player in question, and the club wishing to use the father/son rule must use its next available pick after the lowest nominal pick by other clubs to secure the player
every club in the competition nominates the pick they would use to select the player in question, and the club wishing to use the father/son rule must use its next available pick after the lowest nominal pick by other clubs to secure the player
No. It all happens before trade week starts.
Firstly Daniher has to choose one of the two clubs (or neither - he is entitled to decline any FS nomination and just enter the draft in the same way as any other player.)
Assuming he chooses either Sydney or Essendon, the other club then has no more rights over him than any other club. They can put in a bid for him as any other club can but that is where it ends.
Other clubs can then nominate a pick they will use for him at the start of trade week (ie while they have their original picks - they've not traded any away). If he has chosen Sydney and a club nominates a top 10 pick, Sydney would then have to commit to using their pick 11 on him, or indicate they are willing to let him pass through to the draft. If a club nominates a pick between 12 and 27, Sydney would have to use their no 28 pick on him.
Similarly, if he has chosen Essendon, they'd have to agree to use their no 6 pick on him if a club nominates a top 5 pick (probably unlikely). If a club nominates a pick from 7 to 22, they'd have to committ to using their no 23 pick.
What I am a little unclear on is what a bidding club's obligations and entitlements are. Say St Kilda bid pick 9 and the Swans declined to commit their pick 11, he would go into the draft. The bidding system doesn't make sense if St Kilda aren't then obligated to take him with pick 9 but I am not sure if that means he is definitely their's, or if they just have to pick him if he's still there at pick 9 when the draft actually happens. I suspect it means the Saints couldn't trade their pick 9.
With clubs jostling to pick up crumbs in any Judd related deal, I'd be surprised if any clubs nominated a top 10 pick for him before the start of trade week. Meaning he should be available to his choice (made up front) of Essendon with pick 23 or Sydney with pick 28. I doubt either club would baulk at that.
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I think so. And like Liz said if the Saints decide to pick him with pick 9, then the Swans would have to nominate pick 11 in order to pick him up.
ari18
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which they wont. Daniher cannot be that top. Nobody besides swans and bombers have registered interest. Unless u give ur pick 11 i can see him comeing to us with 23
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I think he'll either go to the Swans with our pick 11 or 28 or to the Bombers with pick 23. Unless someone tries to shaft us and makes a play for him.
FM0226
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In my view, Daniher is probably worth around a mid-20 pick. Has decent size/ability without anything extraoridinary. It's fairly simple I think, it all depends where he wants to go.
If he wants to goto Sydney, I doubt Essendon would want to pick him at 6, so we'll probably get him with 27 (unless the bombers do us a favour and not enter the bidding). If he wants to goto Essendon, than they'll get him with a third rounder (which is the normal father-son pick).
If he wants to goto Sydney, I doubt Essendon would want to pick him at 6, so we'll probably get him with 27 (unless the bombers do us a favour and not enter the bidding). If he wants to goto Essendon, than they'll get him with a third rounder (which is the normal father-son pick).
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No, if he nominates Essendon as the club that he wants to go to, then Essendon will need to use pick 23 if another club offers to take him with a pick between 7 and 22. If he chooses Sydney, then Essendon loses their father/son rights to him - as will we if he chooses the Bombers.
It makes the system fair. It means that players can still go to their dad's club, as long as the club pays a fair price for him. For instance, Geelong would have had to take Tom Hawkins with pick seven last year, because you can guarantee that some club or another would have offered a top six pick for him. Geelong would almost certainly have matched the offer, but instead of getting probably the best player in the draft with pick 41, they would have had to use their best pick on him. It matches the sentimental interest in allowing sons to play for their dad's club with the wider ethos of the draft - which is to create the most equal recruiting system possible.
It's not an either/or. If he chooses the Swans you guys have no rights to him other than by putting in a bid. And he chooses in the next 10 days, not on draft day. If he chose the Swans and the Bombers bid their pick 23, the Swans could take him with their 28. To force the Swans to pick him with their pick 11, the Bombers would have to bid their pick 6. But then you'd actually have to use that pick on him come draft day.
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You still don't get it. If he nominates Sydney, then Essendon will only get him if they are willing to use pick six and the Swans refuse to use pick 11 to get him. Sydney, as the nominated club, will always be able to use a pick five spots lower than any that Essendon is willing to offer.
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So in turn if he nominates the Bombers, then we'll have to use our pick 11 then?
ari18
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yeh i posted that before u explained.
Sydney are offering more oppurtunites for him to play in the forward line and dons want him to replace fletch in the backline..
Apparantly sydney will give him the better chance
