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DirtyLeeds said:
Plenty of coaches get sacked by their old clubs, KB, Sheedy, any of a dozen Richmond ex-players. You apparantly belong to the once bitten twice shy school of coaches. According to your theory Walls would never had a go at Carlton as Fizroy sacked him, or Parko woild not have returned to Carlton in the early nineties. Blight would not have coached past his brief tenure with the Roo's, Matthews, albeit a flag hero, sacked by the filth would not have got close to Brissy. So Voss has learnt nothing at Port, according to you, whomever you are by the way, he has no credibility therefore should never be considered again as a senior coach.
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Fitzroy didn't sack Walls, we sacked Parko to entice Walls over.

As I said in another post, no sacked coach who didn't coach a flag has gone on to win one in at least the last 50 years with another club.
 
Blue__Balls said:
Not sure there was much for Teague to do in this one. Cunners down within minutes, whatever the fu** happened to Harry and our best key forward was suddenly unable to lift his arms...and up against the most in-form side in the competition.

Even then, we didn't get blown away.

Stocker seemed to be getting more time around the ball, Docherty was being used through the middle, Williams was back at HB.

Some of the main changes we'd been wanting to see happened, but those changes were never going to be enough to tip the scales when they were weighted heavily against us before the first break.
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But....but...but he should have made changes ;) :D
 
Where is Chris Judd? Our football director has left the house. He’s overseen the football department employments. He has been bitterly disappointing.
 
btdg said:
Let's face it - Teague might be a dead man walking at this stage.

We play Hawthorn next week, and even with a win, we then play Sydney (away) and West Coast (home) before the bye. That will likely have us 4-7, out of contention, with a 2 week turnaround (followed by travelling twice in 3 weeks - if we sack Teague mid-season then it has to be at the bye IMO).

Things are pretty bleak now, but there's just too much to stake. We gambled on a '66 game rebuild' that is now into year 5 and we aren't even mediocre. We sold the farm for good average players who seem to all be injured, all the time. Cripps and McKay are both out of contract, both have quite attractive offers in front of them -we're a few bad losses away from basically starting all over again...

Whatever happens, can we please, please promise not to get all excited again if the temporary replacement gets a few wins? Like in 2019, we've probably been better than a 4-7 record would suggest. We have a few important structural players coming back and a nice little run of winnable games (Collingwood - North - St Kilda - GC) at the end of the year. Anyone excited for the 'Teague Train' reprised --> 'The Barker Express'?
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If we have a temporary coach this year we might as well close the doors.
 

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Ricky Mott said:
Where is Chris Judd? Our football director has left the house. He’s overseen the football department employments. He has been bitterly disappointing.
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Not really. He pretty much warned about getting an untried coach but all and sundry told him how wrong he was.
 
I think we should stick with him.
Wait til he has some decent assistant caoches and 4 or 5 good playeres back.
 
Pentatonic Flat Fifth said:
Bolton was doing wonders with our youth - he was amazing and they were absolutely starring - enter Teague and he is straight up killing these kids. Its so damned hard to watch.
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Stop it. You're re writing history everywhere. Our youth was floundering under Bolton. Players were regressing everywhere by the last season and a half.
 
Not sure why we're writing the season off now either.

3-6 from our toughest block of the year by far.

Games we should win: Hawks, Crows, Dockers, Pies, Roos, Suns
Games we probably lose: Cats, Power
Games that we'd need to lift to win: Swans, Eagles, Giants (x2), Saints

Win the ones we're tracking to beat on recent form anyway.
Win 3 of the 5 tougher but not unreasonable matchups.
Finish on 12 wins, probably just miss finals but not by much (and if we can pull our fingers out we could certainly do even better).

Plenty of footy left to be played.
 
Pixelshooter said:
Are there any documented successful cases bringing in an inexperienced untried coach to a developing list and it working? Beveridge I suppose?
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Every coach started as inexperienced.... So all of them that did it at the first club they got hc at.

Oh I guess except the Scott geelong type cases. Although he's proven to be a fine coach anyway.
 

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Blue__Balls said:
Not sure why we're writing the season off now either.

3-6 from our toughest block of the year by far.

Games we should win: Hawks, Crows, Dockers, Pies, Roos, Suns
Games we probably lose: Cats, Power
Games that we'd need to lift to win: Swans, Eagles, Giants (x2), Saints

Win the ones we're tracking to beat on recent form anyway.
Win 3 of the 5 tougher but not unreasonable matchups.
Finish on 12 wins, probably just miss finals but not by much (and if we can pull our fingers out we could certainly do even better).

Plenty of footy left to be played.
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I agree, we have had a tough start to the year and hopefully can get a bit of momentum and get rolling in the back half of the year.. We may miss the finals but if we can at least show something to get us excited about for 2022 then the season wont be a complete waste.
 
Pixelshooter said:
Are there any documented successful cases bringing in an inexperienced untried coach to a developing list and it working? Beveridge I suppose?
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Lol what?

Alistair Clarkson, Bomber Thompson, Damien Hardwick, John Longmire, Luke Beveridge, Nathan Buckley. Shit even Chris Scott and Adam Simpson have kept their clubs at the top during their little cycles/min-rebuild.

Literally every example of recent success comes from a homegrown, untried coach - yet our supporter base choose to ignore it. Why?
 
btdg said:
I'm not really advocating for sacking Teague. In a perfect world we would beat Hawthorn, hit some form and win 3 in a row to be .500 at the bye, then steamroll the competition in teh second half of the year to win the first of 9 consecutive premierships.

But the next 3-4 months are so crucial for us as a club. We have a restless fanbase who probably can't stomach being told 'we are rebuilding again, give it 3 years and we will be good'. We have two stars out of contract and one star 12 months away from the same position, and may not have the money for all 3. And we have a litany of highly rated draft picks who can't get on the park.

We're a bad loss or two away from implosion imo, and that might be the players too...
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A bad year this year doesn’t mean we are rebuilding
 

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Pixelshooter said:
Are there any documented successful cases bringing in an inexperienced untried coach to a developing list and it working? Beveridge I suppose?
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Clarkson, Roos (Sydney version) and maybe Bomber at Geelong to name a few. Could almost say it about Ratts as well, got us to a second semi off a wooden spoon base.
 
Pixelshooter said:
I didn't like that "apology" at all. He may have been wrong at his initial press conference, but a strong coach will never backpedal like that. Can you imagine Clarko or Hardwick doing that? Just makes us look incredibly weak and able to be pushed around. hated it.
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Garbage.
 
blue healer said:
Fitzroy didn't sack Walls, we sacked Parko to entice Walls over.

As I said in another post, no sacked coach who didn't coach a flag has gone on to win one in at least the last 50 years with another club.
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Blight might be the outlier but agree. Rookie coaches won more flags than recycled coaches this century.
 

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