The Kings only count for 1 in my mindSandringham in both 2018 and 2016. In 2016 they had 4 in the top and Florent at pick 11. They are Australia's top U18 team. That is indisputable.
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The Kings only count for 1 in my mindSandringham in both 2018 and 2016. In 2016 they had 4 in the top and Florent at pick 11. They are Australia's top U18 team. That is indisputable.
I agree with you on Cowan konstanty and Clarke all in top 25Those rankings of yours, Davo, are very impressive. I must, however, strongly disagree with your placement of Cowan at number 32. Without taking into account any of his other performances this year, I judged him to be among the top 25 in talent based solely on his performance against Dandenong. He will be a very capable halfback/wing for whoever chooses him. I would switch him for Munkara. I'd also rank Konstanty and Clarke in the 20s.
He'll team up with chet and giddey wellThe curve might be flattening for the general population, but I’d bet my bottom dollar that current studies show that sports where height and size give an advantage, their athletes are still getting taller and bigger.
15 years ago Kevin Durant (nba basketball) was a freak at 208cm tall, moving like a guard. Then came Giannisgiannis antetokounmpo at 211cm with a bigger build, moving the same.
They are one generation after Michael Jordan, who was 198cm.
Next year, there’s a kid coming to the nba draft who just measured 223cm with a 244cm wingspan and he moves like a guard. He’s still growing and moves like a baby giraffe, but he’s got that fluidity and agility that you know once he grows in to his body, that he’s going to be different than the really tall players that came before him.
No one is putting Gruzewski in their top 50. He will go before pick 35. 100%post Grand Final Update
1. Will Ashcroft - 180cm 76kg - Sandringham (Bris F/S)
2. Harry Sheezel - 184cm 77kg - Sandringham
3. George Wardlaw - 182cm 81kg - Oakleigh
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4. Aaron Cadman - 194cm 88kg - GWV
5. Elijah Tsatas - 186cm 79kg - Oakleigh
6. Cam MacKenzie - 187cm 80kg - Sandringham (StK NGA)
7. Jhye Clark - 181cm 77kg - Geelong
8. Mattaes Phillipou - 191cm 83kg - WWT
9. Jedd Busslinger - 196cm 82kg - East Perth
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10. Reuben Ginbey - 189cm 85kg - East Perth
11. Bailey Humphrey - 184cm 86kg - Gippsland
12. Lewis Hayes - 197cm 81kg - Eastern
13. Elijah Hewett - 186cm 82kg - Swan Districts
14. Matthew Jefferson - 194cm 76kg - Oakleigh
15. Isaac Keeler - 198cm 88kg - North Adelaide (Adel NGA)
16. Oliver Hollands - 184cm 71kg - Murray
17. Adam D'Aloia - 186cm 86kg - WWT
18. Mitch Szybkowski - 186cm 84kg - Dandenong
19. Jaspa Fletcher - 184cm 73kg - Bris A (Bris A)
20. Brayden George - 185cm 87kg - Murray
21. Anthony Munkara - 186cm 77kg - NT/West Adelaide (Ess NGA)
22. Olli Hotton - 181cm 77kg - Sandringham
23. Tom McCallum - 192cm 78kg - Tasmania
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24. Coby Burgiel - 183cm 76kg - Gippsland
25. Henry Hustwaite - 194cm 84kg - Dandenong
26. Al Davey Jnr - 181cm 74kg - Oakleigh (Ess F/S)
27. Jed Hagan - 175cm 73kg - East Fremantle
28. Darcy Jones - 175cm 67kg - Swan Districts
29. Josh Weddle - 191cm 87kg - Oakleigh
30. Kobe Ryan - 183cm 73kg - West Adelaide
31. Harry Barnett - 202cm 93kg - West Adelaide
32. Lachlan Cowan - 188cm 81kg - Tasmania
33. Luke Teal - 188cm 78kg - Oakleigh
34. Charlie Clarke - 182cm 75kg - Sandringham
35. Brandon Leary - 177cm - Tasmania
36. Hugh Bond - 184cm 81kg - GWV
37. Shadeau Brain - 185cm - Bris A (Bris A)
38. Will Dowling - 187cm 79kg - North Adelaide
39. Jonti Schuback - 183cm 75kg - Gippsland
40. Noah Long - 178cm 74kg - Gippsland
41. Ed Allan - 194cm 82kg - Claremont
42. Archie Lovelock - 178cm 72kg - Glenlg
42. Callum Verrell - 187cm 79kg - Eastern
43. Blake Drury - 177cm 73kg - Oakleigh
44. Jacob Konstanty - 176cm 70kg - Gippsland
45. Cooper Vickery - 180cm 72kg - Gippsland (Haw NGA)
46. Jake Walker - 184cm 85kg - Glenlg
47. Jaiden Magor - 185cm 79kg - South Adelaide
48. Sam Gilbey - 188cm 71kg - Claremont
49. Harry Rowston - 180cm - Calder/GWS A (GWS A)
50. Harry Lemmey - 199cm 93kg - West Adel
---------------------------------------------------------------- Quality Prospects ^
other good prospects that have good qualities: J.Ryan, Scully, Hempel, Penny, J.Davey, Harvey, J.Lawrence, Petric, K.Windsor, Ashwin, M.Clohesy, T.Clohesy, Northam, O'Sullivan, Binns, Van Es, Fogarty, Wright, McMullin, C.Mitchell, Foster, Michaelanny, Sadler, Michael, MacNeill, Cleaver, Green, Julian, Cole, Campbell, Madden, Knobel and Campbell-Farrell, special mention: L. Bailey(Dand)
Beg to differNo one is putting Gruzewski in their top 50. He will go before pick 35. 100%
the only limitations on MacKenzie are big numbers(accumulation) and regular goal kicking, Wardlaw if fit is as good as JHF imo, i know its a big call, but i think he could be on a similar level, but the hamstrings are a concern and his lack of accumulation even though he was sick has him behind the Daicos-like performances of Will Ashcroft, Tsatas' kicking and decision making are a slight concern, but can he accumulate and run for an outside/inside mid.What do you see as McKenzie's limitations? Everything I read makes him sound like an excellent prospect, doesn't seem to have a bad game, performs well in big games. For Eagles' pick 2 he might be a safer bet than Wardlaw (hamstrings) and Tsatas (not as inside as McKenzie).
Where do you see Hotton going in the draft? Is he an inside mid, or balanced? Do you see him having the game to be a full time mid at AFL level, or do you think he ends up on a flank somewhere?
How was Szybkowski in the U18s GF?
there are things i like about Cowan, accumulation, speed, running ability, but the reason i dont have him higher is because of the turn over rate he had for the Allies and at times Tassie and how that can cost teams on the scoreboard, if he can iron out those issues he could be really good, but if he doesnt then thats an issueThose rankings of yours, Davo, are very impressive. I must, however, strongly disagree with your placement of Cowan at number 32. Without taking into account any of his other performances this year, I judged him to be among the top 25 in talent based solely on his performance against Dandenong. He will be a very capable halfback/wing for whoever chooses him. I would switch him for Munkara. I'd also rank Konstanty and Clarke in the 20s.
^I agree with you on Cowan konstanty and Clarke all in top 25
Gruzewski is a good player but at 192cm as a KPD is a little short for AFL and where its heading, i have him behind Hayes, Busslinger and Van Es, has not played at the champs, has not played for the AFL Academy, was in a team that lost 1st week of finals, it seems he is only being added because Cal Twomey has added him to his list and made the national combine, if people want to copy that then go ahead, Cal does have good reads at times.No one is putting Gruzewski in their top 50. He will go before pick 35. 100%
the only limitations on MacKenzie are big numbers(accumulation) and regular goal kicking, Wardlaw if fit is as good as JHF imo, i know its a big call, but i think he could be on a similar level, but the hamstrings are a concern and his lack of accumulation even though he was sick has him behind the Daicos-like performances of Will Ashcroft, Tsatas' kicking and decision making are a slight concern, but can he accumulate and run for an outside/inside mid.
Hotton i really like, i like him anywhere from around 10-25, i've been putting him early 20's recently but he could go higher, he is a goal kicking winger/flanker
there are things i like about Cowan, accumulation, speed, running ability, but the reason i dont have him higher is because of the turn over rate he had for the Allies and at times Tassie and how that can cost teams on the scoreboard, if he can iron out those issues he could be really good, but if he doesnt then thats an issue
Jacob Konstanty - Gippsland - 14 gms 17.13 15d 3m 6t (kicked 3 goals in 2 games at the champs so far) thats why i have him where i do, barely averages a goal a game for a small forward in his draft year at u18 level, not really a pressure forward, can lead well and kick a goal, but needs to do more than what he has done imo.
Munkara if he dedicates himself to AFL footy could be a sensation(very much like a Rioli, has the speed, power and agility of the Rioli's), but its a bit of a mystery as to his situation this year
Clarke i agree could be higher, whether he goes 20's or 30's he is a talented small forward/midfielder, a little inconsistent, but quality
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Gruzewski is a good player but at 192cm as a KPD is a little short for AFL and where its heading, i have him behind Hayes, Busslinger and Van Es, has not played at the champs, has not played for the AFL Academy, was in a team that lost 1st week of finals, it seems he is only being added because Cal Twomey has added him to his list and made the national combine, if people want to copy that then go ahead, Cal does have good reads at times.
Big Game this Thursday, Vic Metro V Vic Country for the Title.
May be a stupid question, but is Wardlaw a chance at all for Thursday?
The only thing that could happen is he re injures himself or due to lack of game time he plays poorly hurting him in the eyes of all who are there to watch. Best thing he could do is rest up and help out the team at the game, knowing everyone who has seen him and spoken to him rates him as a top 3 prospect.May be a stupid question, but is Wardlaw a chance at all for Thursday?
Gruzewski didn’t harm that top 50 chance today. Seems a good third tall type.the only limitations on MacKenzie are big numbers(accumulation) and regular goal kicking, Wardlaw if fit is as good as JHF imo, i know its a big call, but i think he could be on a similar level, but the hamstrings are a concern and his lack of accumulation even though he was sick has him behind the Daicos-like performances of Will Ashcroft, Tsatas' kicking and decision making are a slight concern, but can he accumulate and run for an outside/inside mid.
Hotton i really like, i like him anywhere from around 10-25, i've been putting him early 20's recently but he could go higher, he is a goal kicking winger/flanker
there are things i like about Cowan, accumulation, speed, running ability, but the reason i dont have him higher is because of the turn over rate he had for the Allies and at times Tassie and how that can cost teams on the scoreboard, if he can iron out those issues he could be really good, but if he doesnt then thats an issue
Jacob Konstanty - Gippsland - 14 gms 17.13 15d 3m 6t (kicked 3 goals in 2 games at the champs so far) thats why i have him where i do, barely averages a goal a game for a small forward in his draft year at u18 level, not really a pressure forward, can lead well and kick a goal, but needs to do more than what he has done imo.
Munkara if he dedicates himself to AFL footy could be a sensation(very much like a Rioli, has the speed, power and agility of the Rioli's), but its a bit of a mystery as to his situation this year
Clarke i agree could be higher, whether he goes 20's or 30's he is a talented small forward/midfielder, a little inconsistent, but quality
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Gruzewski is a good player but at 192cm as a KPD is a little short for AFL and where its heading, i have him behind Hayes, Busslinger and Van Es, has not played at the champs, has not played for the AFL Academy, was in a team that lost 1st week of finals, it seems he is only being added because Cal Twomey has added him to his list and made the national combine, if people want to copy that then go ahead, Cal does have good reads at times.
yea had a ripper mark in the first quarter where he came in from the side and jumped over Vickery i think it was, he kicked 2 nice goals(30m out in front and 40 out with a slight angle), didnt notice him in a heap of play after that though, i remember 1 or 2 plays where he handed the ball off to a runner, in that 5-10 minutes where he kicked 2 goals i was thinking "maybe i made a mistake", thinking on early season and this game he is a talent, but top 30 seems too high for me, but thats my thoughts, im sure club recruiters have their own PoV.Gruzewski didn’t harm that top 50 chance today. Seems a good third tall type.
this is hard because most midfielders sell themselves on being an attacking weapon, accumulator types or goal kickers, its rare that they run both ways and tackle as their main weapon and if they do they are usually less hyped up(they usually develop this moreso at a club after being recruited, Finn Maginness/Marcus Windhager are an example because they lack accumulation they had to learn to use their athletic qualities to run with an opponent early in their careers ect), but i'll give it a goWhich mids have strong defensive games? The Dogs need reinforcements with Dunks leaving.
He seems to lack that natural forward craft, awkward leading patterns and struggling to get involved unless it was straight forward work highlighted this, but I do think he showed off some of the tools that are getting people excited without being dominant. Definitely more of a defender for mine until he gets some more forward craft, but at his height with his speed i could see someone trying to turn him into a tall midfielderyea had a ripper mark in the first quarter where he came in from the side and jumped over Vickery i think it was, he kicked 2 nice goals(30m out in front and 40 out with a slight angle), didnt notice him in a heap of play after that though, i remember 1 or 2 plays where he handed the ball off to a runner, in that 5-10 minutes where he kicked 2 goals i was thinking "maybe i made a mistake", thinking on early season and this game he is a talent, but top 30 seems too high for me, but thats my thoughts, im sure club recruiters have their own PoV.
before he was injured he was playing in defence and just plucking marks all over the place. He's a talent!He seems to lack that natural forward craft, awkward leading patterns and struggling to get involved unless it was straight forward work highlighted this, but I do think he showed off some of the tools that are getting people excited without being dominant. Definitely more of a defender for mine until he gets some more forward craft, but at his height with his speed i could see someone trying to turn him into a tall midfielder
im sure you can pick out the harry's from my list.
I'd have a punt at:im sure you can pick out the harry's from my list.
Whoever takes Wardlaw will need to be confident that they can get his hammies righti think he is out for the year