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I've heard from a reliable source within the Collingwood ranks that they're chasing Dawson Simpson as a fallback option if they fail in their attempts to entice Matthew Leuenberger to leave Brisbane.

I'm not sure of Simpsons contract situation, but apparently the word is that Neil Balme won't stand in his way if he decides to leave......Apparently Geelong are well aware of Collingwoods approach.

With West, McIntosh (if he ever gets fit) and Blicavs now appearing ahead of Simpson for the ruck position, this doesn't come as a surprise.
 
MD said:
I've heard from a reliable source within the Collingwood ranks that they're chasing Dawson Simpson as a fallback option if they fail in their attempts to entice Matthew Leuenberger to leave Brisbane.

I'm not sure of Simpsons contract situation, but apparently the word is that Neil Balme won't stand in his way if he decides to leave......Apparently Geelong are well aware of Collingwoods approach.

With West, McIntosh (if he ever gets fit) and Blicavs now appearing ahead of Simpson for the ruck position, this doesn't come as a surprise.
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Hang on, that would give them, after Jolley and Hudson, 3 monsters in Witts, Grundy and Simpson.
So much for the new "mobile ruckman" theory.
 
FredLeDeux said:
Hang on, that would give them, after Jolley and Hudson, 3 monsters in Witts, Grundy and Simpson.
So much for the new "mobile ruckman" theory.
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Jolly's on the verge of retirement and Hudson is a rookie listed player signed in case of emergency.

Witts and Grundy are still a few years away, and Simpson although having played little football has been in the system for a while.

They're chasing Leuenberger first and foremost, but have spoken to Simpson in case Leuenberger re-signs with Brisbane.
 
I would be disappointed. Bloke has been just about full time on our injury list over the last 2 years. Repays the faith by going to another club.
 

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Scottland2007 said:
I would be disappointed. Bloke has been just about full time on our injury list over the last 2 years. Repays the faith by going to another club.
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Exactly! And why would we do it, unless HMac comes good and stays good (risky) - or Simpson is a free agent (is he?)

Hopefully, we see him playing AFL footy in the next couple of weeks, and get a good look at what he can offer.
 
Scottland2007 said:
I would be disappointed. Bloke has been just about full time on our injury list over the last 2 years. Repays the faith by going to another club.
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I don't think repaying faith stands up to much when you're last in line for a spot in the team. Let him play or let him walk, he's in a Trent West 2011 situation right now.
 
Flippin hell ruckmen are hard to manage aren't they!

Of the 5 we have (West, Blicavs, Simpson, HMac and Vardy) they all could lay claim to a senior position next year... Simpson obviously less likely. You almost need to have at least 1-2 injured at a time to ensure they get game time, and want to stay.

As much as I want to keep Simpson, and I personally see potential in him I do rate all the others above him... I would want genuine compensation for him though. Pick 20-40 at best, potential for a Mumford-Duncan like exchange (though Mumford obviously had more currency).
 
MD said:
I've heard from a reliable source within the Collingwood ranks that they're chasing Dawson Simpson as a fallback option if they fail in their attempts to entice Matthew Leuenberger to leave Brisbane.

I'm not sure of Simpsons contract situation, but apparently the word is that Neil Balme won't stand in his way if he decides to leave......Apparently Geelong are well aware of Collingwoods approach.

With West, McIntosh (if he ever gets fit) and Blicavs now appearing ahead of Simpson for the ruck position, this doesn't come as a surprise.
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Weird target, given he and Witts are both dinosaurs that lack mobility.

They'd be better off chasing Bellchambers.

Anyway, Simpson OOC as is Blicavs, West Vardy and Hamish are all signed up.

Doesn't surprise me, with Blitz progressing one of the other rucks was likely to lack gametime, and he's done not much in 6 years, and our list spots are tight, so there's no guarantee of him getting another contract.

Considering all that, his lack of output and injuries (though not his fault) we would be doing well if we could actually get anything in return for him rather than nothing.

Thus if we ended up with a 2nd or 3rd rounder I wouldn't be unhappy, you can't keep everyone, especially rucks, as they can't all play.
 
If this is true GFC will be forced to look at Simpson over at least a few weeks. Thats the only way they can determine whether he is a required player at Geelong.

If he does step up I can see MacIntosh being paid out. Good list managers would have heavily front loaded HMacs contract - especially with the veterans list working in our favour this year.

I am pleased Simpson is regarded highly by another club and that he probably will have a future beyond 2013 at one club or another.
 
MD said:
Jolly's on the verge of retirement and Hudson is a rookie listed player signed in case of emergency.

Witts and Grundy are still a few years away, and Simpson although having played little football has been in the system for a while.

They're chasing Leuenberger first and foremost, but have spoken to Simpson in case Leuenberger re-signs with Brisbane.
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They don't need another young talented but unproven ruck-they already have two.

They need a senior ruckman, pronto.

Would be much better off throwing cash at Bellchambers, or even Warnock if they can leverage him away from Mick.
 
catswhiskers said:
If this is true GFC will be forced to look at Simpson over at least a few weeks. Thats the only way they can determine whether he is a required player at Geelong.

If he does step up I can see MacIntosh being paid out. Good list managers would have heavily front loaded HMacs contract - especially with the veterans list working in our favour this year.

I am pleased Simpson is regarded highly by another club and that he probably will have a future beyond 2013 at one club or another.
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Hamish won't be paid out, would be a waste, and chance of happening at all.

We're in this for three years.

I can understand why if Simpson gets fit and struggles for games he might look elsewhere-and I am ok with that.
 
why would Simpson leave us to go to a team with young rucks?

If Simpson is good enough and his body stands up he could be our no1 ruck for 8 years.

HMac is an injury prone stopgap who is 29 in sept

West is a durable no2, Vardy is a no2, Blicavs is a no2 those guys aren't competing with Simpson
 

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catswhiskers said:
If this is true GFC will be forced to look at Simpson over at least a few weeks. Thats the only way they can determine whether he is a required player at Geelong.

If he does step up I can see MacIntosh being paid out. Good list managers would have heavily front loaded HMacs contract - especially with the veterans list working in our favour this year.

I am pleased Simpson is regarded highly by another club and that he probably will have a future beyond 2013 at one club or another.
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McIntosh won't be paid out even if Simpson looks like he might make it. No matter what the medical advice, Simpson's fitness cannot be relied upon and, in any event, even if he does prove to be good enough, it's probably going to take him at least another 2 years before he can hold his own as a genuine 1st ruckman.
 
Bellchambers will be courted heavily too. Currie at North needs to be locked in. Collingwood will spare nothing to get their man - so a club needs to be prepared.

If Simpson is out of contract he is an easy target.

Witts has not played at all well in his chances this year. His best was 7 H.O. v Geelong (in three games) poor for a monster playing against a second ruck. I thought he made Simpsons efforts (around the ground ) look positively athletic. Witts showed most as a leading forward!
 
FredLeDeux said:
McIntosh won't be paid out even if Simpson looks like he might make it. No matter what the medical advice, Simpson's fitness cannot be relied upon and, in any event, even if he does prove to be good enough, it's probably going to take him at least another 2 years before he can hold his own as a genuine 1st ruckman.
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It is an option. We would head into 2014 with West, Simpson, Vardy and Blicavs. Plus a newby (KPD) on the list.

It does assume that Simpson plays well enough over a period of time or HMac continues to fail make it on the park.
 
First thought is yeah OK what's he worth. Cause basically he is potentially a #1 and is actually a list management nightmare. Wouldn't surprise me at all if he went elsewhere and became another Mumford , what people have to understand is the quality of of player prep will garner interest. We will lose players we don't play.
What may be helpful to us is once the word is out that the Pies are sniffing, others in need may have a sniff as well.
It make its even more important to play him asap. Lets get him on the ground , versus Brisb, Freo and the Hawks. Lets just engage the gears , let out the clutch and see how he handles.
If a trade happens at years end , it will not hurt him have playing and if he plays really well it gives us data to counter any offers.
 
If we are paying HMac out of a 3 year contract after a single year in which he hasn't made it onto the park - then the decision to recruit him is just about as bad as any decision made by GFC.

I simply cannot see it happening. The current situation would have been one of many anticipated when the decision was being made. Nothing new here.
 
catswhiskers said:
It is an option. We would head into 2014 with West, Simpson, Vardy and Blicavs. Plus a newby (KPD) on the list.

It does assume that Simpson plays well enough over a period of time or HMac continues to fail make it on the park.
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It's an extremely high risk option.
I think it likely that McIntosh was picked up not only for this year's GF, but to cover for Simpson and/or his replacement until he/they were good enough to do the job, and that's the purpose of the 3-year contract.
 

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catswhiskers said:
It is an option. We would head into 2014 with West, Simpson, Vardy and Blicavs. Plus a newby (KPD) on the list.

It does assume that Simpson plays well enough over a period of time or HMac continues to fail make it on the park.
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I get where you're coming from, but it won't happen.
 
Scottland2007 said:
I would be disappointed. Bloke has been just about full time on our injury list over the last 2 years. Repays the faith by going to another club.
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He's given minimal opportunities at Geelong.
Just our luck that he may finally get his body right, and he goes Piesward, and showsus all what I've been waiting for.
 
catswhiskers said:
I agree it probably won't happen. I would prefer to see it happen though, than sending a fit and playing Simpson off to another club to turn the corner, and see Hmac stay on the list if he doesn't come good this year.
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Hamish is staying no matter what.

Whether Dawson does or not is a separate question, and one staying doesn't mean the other has to go (unless he wants to).

A lot depends on whether he can play some footy soon and show he's over the back injury.
 
Pure_Ownage said:
Hamish is staying no matter what.

Whether Dawson does or not is a separate question, and one staying doesn't mean the other has to go (unless he wants to).

A lot depends on whether he can play some footy soon and show he's over the back injury.
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You are probably correct, AS ALWAYS, but I don't like it.
HMc should have been given a 1 year deal only, we ALL knew his LTI list. Then options.
DS has a similar record, but has age on his side.
How can they both remain at Geelong beyondthis year? They are competing for #1 spot. Unless H becomes TPI, which is possible, DS will be forced to look for B&W vertical pastures.
 

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