Traded Dayne Beams (2014-2018)

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I imagine that is for the new video game. They did their modelling at the worst time, BEFORE trade period. Lachie Neale will be on Freo's list as well.
 
Davemonkey said:
I imagine that is for the new video game. They did their modelling at the worst time, BEFORE trade period. Lachie Neale will be on Freo's list as well.
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and before the tatts on both arms (left arm sleeve - new addition)
 
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Brisbane CEO Greg Swann says there is no bad blood between Dayne Beams and Lions
Brisbane wanted star midfielder Dayne Beams to stay at the Gabba, but aren’t bitter that he packed up and returned to Collingwood last October.
Despite making a passionate pledge at the best and fairest that he wanted to continue to play for the Lions, the 28-year-old requested a move back to the Magpies late in the trade period. While they were forced to pay a high price to secure him at the end of 2014, the Lions were handsomely compensated this time around, receiving Pick 18, a future first-round pick and Pick 56 in exchange for Beams and two picks in the 40s.

Lions CEO Greg Swann said there is no bad blood between the club and its former captain. “He spoke to us during the trade period. We’ve all left on good terms,” Swann told SEN on Thursday, a month out from Brisbane’s opening JLT Community Series game. “We wished he’d stayed, but he made the choice to go and I think that was pretty well documented why so we thought we got a reasonable deal for him. “In the end everyone hopefully has a win from it so there’s no bitterness there.”

While Beams’ departure will live a hole in Brisbane’s midfield, the arrival of ball magnet Neale will go some way to covering the gap. The ball magnet is three years younger than Beams and entering the prime of his career. “From our point of view, Lachie’s only 25 so we think we’ve got quite a few years of good footy from Lachie,” Swann said. “We think he’s going to be massive for us over the next few years.”
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knaf said:
Club demonstrating admirable professionalism and maturity on Beams. I wonder what they really think?
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Not what they said.

It’s tiring listening to club’s constantly blowing smoke answering questions the most PC way they can as if we’re morons believing it.

There needs to be more honesty in the world.
 
Will be borne out over time. Leveraging the trade to keep us in the first round of two drafts despite landing Lachie Neale really was great business.

Exactly how great will be revealed over time... how good Ely Smith and whoever we take this year turn out to be, and how long Beams can keep performing at his current level before his body fails him.

I am sleeping easy at this point either way.
 
Dylan12 said:
Not what they said.

It’s tiring listening to club’s constantly blowing smoke answering questions the most PC way they can as if we’re morons believing it.

There needs to be more honesty in the world.
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Or is it actually possible that Fagan and Noble genuinely aren’t emotionally devastated by it all and are happy with how we turned lemons into lemonade and used it as an opportunity to reshape our list?

We’re not a club that is going to persist on wallowing in misery and “poor us” thinking anymore. A healthy dose of pragmatism has been very good for our culture. It’s a big reach to accuse them of “dishonesty” just because they aren’t mirroring your specific emotional reaction.

Our club is firing at the moment on the cumulative energy of total buy-in from everyone. If a player doesn’t want in, they are a liability, regardless of their talent.
 
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TheBrownDog said:
Or is it actually possible that Fagan and Noble genuinely aren’t emotionally devastated by it all and are happy with how we turned lemons into lemonade and used it as an opportunity to reshape our list?
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Not to mention the fact Beams body clearly isn't one people would expect to remain strong into his 30s. Unless the Pies win a GF, I can't see this trade being a loss for us mid term.
 

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TheBrownDog said:
Will be borne out over time. Leveraging the trade to keep us in the first round of two drafts despite landing Lachie Neale really was great business.

Exactly how great will be revealed over time... how good Ely Smith and whoever we take this year turn out to be, and how long Beams can keep performing at his current level before his body fails him.

I am sleeping easy at this point either way.
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I’d be pretty satisfied if the net result is as good as what it was for Collingwood when they first got rid of him e.g. De Goey, Crisp and Greenwood.
 
Dylan12 said:
I’d be pretty satisfied if the net result is as good as what it was for Collingwood when they first got rid of him e.g. De Goey, Crisp and Greenwood.
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Would you pay first rounders now to get Redden, Rockliff or Hanley back or do you accept that players depreciate as they age and get injured?
 
Looking from outside, not doubt Beams leaving is a short term loss for Lions. Beams started slowly last year due to father situation, missed a lot of training. In 2nd half of the season he was the best Lions player. I would have love to see Beams and Neale playing together, possibly finals potential. In 2 years, it's another story, Beams probably done. Lions won the trade, 2 first round picks are great outcome.
 
Jirik13 said:
Looking from outside, not doubt Beams leaving is a short term loss for Lions. Beams started slowly last year due to father situation, missed a lot of training. In 2nd half of the season he was the best Lions player. I would have love to see Beams and Neale playing together, possibly finals potential. In 2 years, it's another story, Beams probably done. Lions won the trade, 2 first round picks are great outcome.
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Yeah, I'll maintain that it would have taken time for Beams & Neale to click..Neale & Lyon have previously played together at Glenelg...
 
TheBrownDog said:
Would you pay first rounders now to get Redden, Rockliff or Hanley back or do you accept that players depreciate as they age and get injured?
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Hell no, not Rockliff or Hanley. Some may consider Redden with a very late first rounder, but I wouldn't do that. I accept that the club did well with the Beams trade and what we got out of it given his age and how busted up his body is, although I'm still none to pleased with Beams and all his BS and lies.
 
I know this is a Dayne Beams thread but personally I'm looking forward to the season starting and us winning games with our new list so we can shift the focus off Beams. He's gonski and wanted to be gonski. And we now have Neale who wants to be here and some fantastic young talent. I'm pretty happy that we are moving on as a club. As an aside, spoke to Laurie Serafini this afternoon and he shares my confidence in the future of our club (although we had both had a few by then).
 
Inside the Beams deal: How Lions handled star's trade to Pies (Callum Twomey)
IT WAS July last year when Brisbane chief executive Greg Swann received a phone call from Paul Connors, one of the game's leading player managers and the agent of gun Lions midfielder Dayne Beams. Connors told Swann they might have a problem. "He's talking about going back to Melbourne," he said. This was the first inkling the Lions had that their former skipper and brilliant onballer might not see out his contract with the club.

Beams, who played in Collingwood's 2010 premiership before leaving the club at the end of 2014 to join the Lions, had two more years to run on his deal at Brisbane. The club was aware of mental health issues Beams was having, particularly since losing his father in March last year, but he continued to play at a high level and was one of their match-winners. The chat didn't go much further and it wasn't pursued by Connors, but it lingered in the back of the Lions' minds.

The Magpies soon got wind of Beams' interest in returning to the club, but that fluctuated. Brisbane wanted to know his intentions, but his mind continued to chop and change. At the end of the season Beams addressed the rumours at the club's best and fairest, admitting he had thought of leaving but that he loved the loved the Lions, his teammates and Brisbane's direction.

"That was really a driving factor in me wanting to stay here and stick around so I love where we are going and I love you boys," he said. The Lions were optimistic but not completely convinced despite the comments, unsure which way he would turn in a month's time when the NAB AFL Trade Period opened. That he leant to the black and white was not a shock. Beams had spoken with Magpies coach Nathan Buckley over the phone by then, with Collingwood the only club he considered.

He didn't meet with any other club nor entertain the idea of shifting to a Melbourne club that wasn't the Magpies. But Beams and his camp knew it wouldn't be straightforward given his contract status. Brisbane started trade discussions by wanting two first-round picks in exchange for Beams, who four years earlier they had given up pick No.5 (which turned out to be Jordan De Goey) and Jack Crisp to secure.

The Magpies weren't going to do that outright, and prioritised their draft strategy so wanted selections back in return for Beams to pay for Academy prospect Isaac Quaynor and father-son Will Kelly under the draft's bidding system. Under the draft's economy, Collingwood needed picks for points, and the Lions knew that. Although the deal wasn't sealed until the final half an hour of the trade period, both clubs, and Beams' camp, remained confident (on different scales) of it going through.

There was layers to the delay, including the haggling of which picks would swap hands. Collingwood was keen on securing Bulldogs defender Jordan Roughead through a trade and not as a free agent so not to affect the compensation they had gotten for losing free agent Alex Fasolo to Carlton, so had that front of mind as well. Brisbane was also in talks with the Bulldogs for defender Marcus Adams, while the key dominoes of the Trade Period – Jesse Hogan's move to Fremantle and then Lachie Neale's to Brisbane – didn't fall until the last day.

The Lions had identified Neale as a target when they thought Beams was going to still be at the club, and wanted them to play together. Beams' decision to leave changed their plans, making it easier for Brisbane to facilitate the Neale deal and also made it more important they landed the Dockers star. The deal struck was the final of last year's Trade Period, and saw Beams (plus pick 41 and 44) head to the Pies for pick 18, 56 and a future first-round selection.

Beams started the season in solid form, before missing last week's win over the Western Bulldogs with a migraine. If fit, he will join teammates in meeting his ex-teammates at the Gabba on Thursday night, when the Lions host Collingwood to kick off the Easter weekend.
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I suspect the reality of the club not being quite the same as when Beams left to come to us, is setting in and it's giving him headaches and whatever else may ail him.

Glad he's gone tbh..too up and down for my liking. Having someone around our club in his state of mind is no good at all for the enviroment of the players.
 
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