delistings

blackys_chick20 · Oct 14, 2006

hey i was just wondering if richmond have delisted any of their players yet... coz i was at ur b&f and heard wat suga said... but havent heard anymore bout it...

rota69 · Oct 14, 2006

We havent officially delisted anyone besides Kellaway but as you know Rodan,Humm and Roach are on the way out. I would believe their are still more on the chopping block such as Jackson Moore and Krakour but at the moment just Kellaway

rfctigerarmy · Oct 14, 2006

Krakouer wouldnt be delisted.

Madtiger2006 · Oct 14, 2006

We must add Moore to that list of delistings. But we must keep Jacko and I think Krakouer is worth keeping

blackys_chick20 · Oct 14, 2006

oh really? no no-one is fan of kelv?

he's my fave i love him to bits!!
he had a few injuries tho this year... poor litle bugger!
well can i have him at brisbane and u guys can have maybe someone equivalent to him? i cant think of anyone now... maybe fixter?

Grechy · Oct 14, 2006

Roach, Humm, Rodan and A.Kellaway gone.

I hope Moore stays due to the fact that he is tall and athletic.

I hope we keep Hall too being one who can play as third tall and NOT fullback.

Krakouer won't be going anywhere, had a great year last year and is one of our best tacklers.

PLSC · Oct 14, 2006

Krakouer won't be going anywhere, had a great year last year and is one of our best tacklers.

never knew tackling got you games

when brown comes back (please god) and meyer comes in krak wont have a spot

he's had it too easy for too long

Truetiger · Oct 14, 2006

rota69 said:
We havent officially delisted anyone besides Kellaway but as you know Rodan,Humm and Roach are on the way out. I would believe their are still more on the chopping block such as Jackson Moore and Krakour but at the moment just Kellaway

I would delist both Jackson and Moore. Dont think they are up2 it anymore. When i see Roach is delisted as a done deal. Party time

Grechy · Oct 14, 2006

PLSC said:
never knew tackling got you games

when brown comes back (please god) and meyer comes in krak wont have a spot

he's had it too easy for too long

The amount of times it's turned the ball over for us it's a part of his game that contributes to the team. Tackling is a pretty important part of footy if you didn't know. And we're one of the worst tackling sides in the comp so again yes It's quite an important asset.

Madtiger2006 · Oct 14, 2006

Kelvin Moore reminds me too much of David Bourke. Too skinny, can't kick, not overly smart. But Bourke had more courage

Darth_Tiger · Oct 14, 2006

moore cant kick eh?

One-eyed Tiger · Oct 14, 2006

Madtiger2006 said:
Kelvin Moore reminds me too much of David Bourke. Too skinny, can't kick, not overly smart. But Bourke had more courage

Couldn't disagree more. I will happily defend this guy.
If Moore hadn't sustained the injuries he had then he would be part of our best 22.

Skills
He is a reliable mark (much better than Ray Hall who more often than not juggles them) and more than capable by hand or foot (better than Hall or Kellaway) and has better legspeed than both of these blokes also.

Smarts
Define footy smarts. He attempts to stop his man getting the ball and when he gets it he more often than not gives it to a teammate in a better position. He has more footy smarts than Ray Hall or Daniel Jackson (wouldn't be hard). He doesn't stand out because he does his job with a minimum of fuss.

Courage
To question his courage really pisses me off. Tell me of one instance when he has shirked a contest.

Size
Whilst not a gorilla he has bulked up since he began, as he should have given the amount of games he's missed due injury. I do concede a bit more muscle wouldn't go astray and one more preseason should help.

Ability
Go back and watch the Sydney game. O'Keefe carved up Andrew Kellaway (way too slow in what would have been a nail in his coffin) before Moore was moved onto O'Keefe who did a MUCH better tighter job. Unfortunately Moore injured himself late in the game and that was the last we seen of him for the year. In between injuries he has also demonstrated some ability to play forward and take a mark on a fast lead. I still think his potential to play forward or back is worth persevering with.

Injury Prone
Obviously, Moore's frequent injuries are a concern and if he gets cut then I will be disappointed but understand that the club knows more about his physical state than I do. He will not get cut because of a lack of ability as he is a good fit for a modern defender.

If the great white hope in Thursfield doesn't make a successful comeback we will have no tallish quick athletic backs (although I concede JON will in time). Fingers crossed Moore stays and you end up seeing in him what I have.

PLSC · Oct 14, 2006

Go back and watch the Sydney game. O'Keefe carved up Andrew Kellaway (way too slow in what would have been a nail in his coffin) before Moore was moved onto O'Keefe who did a MUCH better tighter job.

agree, played well

id give him one more year, jackson to go before him easily

jimmy15_ · Oct 14, 2006

i have a feeling moore is being primed for the 'kellaway' role.

Madtiger2006 · Oct 14, 2006

I have never been impressed by Moore at senior level. His kicking is very sketchy and the ball doesn't come off the boot convincly. His effort in his senior game against Melbourne sucked. He did nothing and he was half hearted on every occasion. One of his only possessions was a handball to a played who was about to get tackled and Moore could see the player was manned up but he handballed anyway, even though Moore himself wasn't under much pressure. He reminds me of David Bourke with red hair, but Bourke had more courage(I never said Moore had no courage). Hopefully he is much better than what he has shown at senior level, but I don't see him being on our list in a years time. I think Jacko has shown promise and it's about time he was given a fair run.

Madtiger2006 · Oct 14, 2006

I would love to trade Johnson too. Lots of people seem to rate him, but they are the ones who don't see him play every week and turn the ball over by hand or foot with every second touch. Not a great footy brain, not very evasive, not very big or powerful. He goes in though. We'd get a decent player in a swap

Bentleigh · Oct 15, 2006

One-eyed Tiger said:
Couldn't disagree more. I will happily defend this guy.
If Moore hadn't sustained the injuries he had then he would be part of our best 22.

Skills
He is a reliable mark (much better than Ray Hall who more often than not juggles them) and more than capable by hand or foot (better than Hall or Kellaway) and has better legspeed than both of these blokes also.

Smarts
Define footy smarts. He attempts to stop his man getting the ball and when he gets it he more often than not gives it to a teammate in a better position. He has more footy smarts than Ray Hall or Daniel Jackson (wouldn't be hard). He doesn't stand out because he does his job with a minimum of fuss.

Courage
To question his courage really pisses me off. Tell me of one instance when he has shirked a contest.

Size
Whilst not a gorilla he has bulked up since he began, as he should have given the amount of games he's missed due injury. I do concede a bit more muscle wouldn't go astray and one more preseason should help.

Ability
Go back and watch the Sydney game. O'Keefe carved up Andrew Kellaway (way too slow in what would have been a nail in his coffin) before Moore was moved onto O'Keefe who did a MUCH better tighter job. Unfortunately Moore injured himself late in the game and that was the last we seen of him for the year. In between injuries he has also demonstrated some ability to play forward and take a mark on a fast lead. I still think his potential to play forward or back is worth persevering with.

Injury Prone
Obviously, Moore's frequent injuries are a concern and if he gets cut then I will be disappointed but understand that the club knows more about his physical state than I do. He will not get cut because of a lack of ability as he is a good fit for a modern defender.

Moore
2007.

Will be very intersting to see how he goes givin a good and injury free pre-season.

If the great white hope in Thursfield doesn't make a successful comeback we will have no tallish quick athletic backs (although I concede JON will in time). Fingers crossed Moore stays and you end up seeing in him what I have

Spot on. Need one of Thursty or Moore to come good really.

Bentleigh · Oct 15, 2006

Madtiger2006 said:
I would love to trade Johnson too. Lots of people seem to rate him, but they are the ones who don't see him play every week and turn the ball over by hand or foot with every second touch. Not a great footy brain, not very evasive, not very big or powerful. He goes in though. We'd get a decent player in a swap

You have no idea.

mini_me316 · Oct 15, 2006

Madtiger2006 said:
I would love to trade Johnson too. Lots of people seem to rate him, but they are the ones who don't see him play every week and turn the ball over by hand or foot with every second touch. Not a great footy brain, not very evasive, not very big or powerful. He goes in though. We'd get a decent player in a swap

Firstly he is our captain, how many captains do you see getting traded to other teams.

Yes he is sloppy with his disposal but his tagging efforts more than make up for any mistake he makes.

One-eyed Tiger · Oct 15, 2006

Madtiger2006 said:
I would love to trade Johnson too. Lots of people seem to rate him, but they are the ones who don't see him play every week and turn the ball over by hand or foot with every second touch. Not a great footy brain, not very evasive, not very big or powerful. He goes in though. We'd get a decent player in a swap

How old are you?

Grechy · Oct 15, 2006

Madtiger2006 said:
I would love to trade Johnson too. Lots of people seem to rate him, but they are the ones who don't see him play every week and turn the ball over by hand or foot with every second touch. Not a great footy brain, not very evasive, not very big or powerful. He goes in though. We'd get a decent player in a swap

Did you see his tagging jobs this year? He may not be evasive and all of that but his tagging roles were superb all throughout the year.

Madtiger2006 · Oct 15, 2006

Barbara Streisand could do a tagging job

Truetiger · Oct 15, 2006

Grechy said:
Did you see his tagging jobs this year? He may not be evasive and all of that but his tagging roles were superb all throughout the year.

nah dont think he did see it. As unlike me he dont travel aust wide to watch the tigers

And if i remember the game was on foxtel (port game) and he dont have that haha!

Grechy · Oct 15, 2006

Truetiger said:
nah dont think he did see it. As unlike me he dont travel aust wide to watch the tigers And if i remember the game was on foxtel (port game) and he dont have that haha!

I don't have Foxtel either. But I still managed to see Johnsons tagging roles. Isn't MT a melbournian?

Truetiger · Oct 15, 2006

Grechy said:
I don't have Foxtel either. But I still managed to see Johnsons tagging roles. Isn't MT a melbournian?

He is yes and a Richmond cheap member that sits on the upper level of the southern stand. Sitting there must be to hard to see how good johnson really is

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