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I was born and bred in Scotland certainly dont miss the winter times.
Having a bad few days at the moment turned my phone off yesterday as couldnt face talking to anyone ,had last two nights with barely no sleep.
Currently on no depression meds ,chronic back pain due to a work injury and havent worked for a few years i got paid off and no big payout either.

Any sleeping advice folks? Ive tried meditation ,headspace and smiling minds i was recommended to try but they dont help.

Hope you all have a pleasant day.
I have low level chronic fatigue and that can adversely affect my sleep cycle.

Doxylamine is available over the counter and can help me to reset it, but you need to use it sparingly otherwise you can become reliant on it to sleep (also obviously check its fine with whatever meds you might use).
 
I was born and bred in Scotland certainly dont miss the winter times.
Having a bad few days at the moment turned my phone off yesterday as couldnt face talking to anyone ,had last two nights with barely no sleep.
Currently on no depression meds ,chronic back pain due to a work injury and havent worked for a few years i got paid off and no big payout either.

Any sleeping advice folks? Ive tried meditation ,headspace and smiling minds i was recommended to try but they dont help.

Hope you all have a pleasant day.
I'm so sorry, that sounds awful. Sleep deprivation is horrendous, and I sincerely hope things improve for you soon.
I don't have any sleeping advice except for the obvious - be careful about what you eat and drink before bed, have a couple of hours without devices before you go to bed, and a bit of gentle exercise in the evening might help, like a walk. But I'm sure you've tried all of those things already.
I find that meditating in bed helps me to get to sleep more easily - perhaps give that a try, if you haven't already.

Wishing you the very best, and if all else fails, we're here whenever you need. 👍
 
Wow, certainly puts my winter blues into perspective then, lol.

I've never been to Scotland- furthest north I've been is Manchester. Where abouts are you??

My aunt lives in Orkney (tiny island off the north coast of Scotland, at roughly the same latitude as Oslo and Helsinki :oops:). She has seasonal affective disorder, and during the winter she only has five or six hours of sunlight per day. It puts my winter blues into perspective too! ;)

I move between two different sites with work, spending half my time in Perthshire, in central Scotland, and half in Caithness, the far north of the mainland. Caithness has its drawbacks, naturally, but is so beautiful it makes it all worthwhile!
 

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Anyone ever heard of seasonal depression the wrong way around, I mean,
love the winter, but dislike summer ! how un- common is this?
where I live winter gets cold and rains, summer gets hot, dry, daily seabreeze, just the typical climate of southern Australia
 
Anyone ever heard of seasonal depression the wrong way around, I mean,
love the winter, but dislike summer ! how un- common is this?
where I live winter gets cold and rains, summer gets hot, dry, daily seabreeze, just the typical climate of southern Australia
I did a quick google yesterday and absolutely it is a thing.

I saw the symptoms of it from warmer months rather than colder.
 

Spring and summer SAD​

Symptoms specific to summer-onset seasonal affective disorder, sometimes called summer depression, may include:

  • Trouble sleeping (insomnia)
  • Poor appetite
  • Weight loss
  • Agitation or anxiety
  • Increased irritability

 
Slight vent


I’m torn about this week/end. I’ve had an up and down relationship with my Dad. No issues per se, we just fail to stay in touch. Well, he does and I’ve stopped chasing him for it. When my partner was fighting cancer last year (successfully), didn’t check in once. I’d always call first. So I stopped. Have spoken once since April last year, because his mum died. I’m bringing it on myself a bit, I know

Anyway, my beautiful girl, 6, loves Father’s Day. Loves all events like that. We will have a great day together, until the arvo when she goes back to her mums because it’s technically her weekend. Devastating. She left me 3 years ago, breaking my heart on Fathers Day eve. Good timing. When is a good time to destroy someone. Haven’t recovered, so be it. Just leaves a cloud over the whole day, especially the part when my girl leaves

At least winter is ending 😅
 

Spring and summer SAD​

Symptoms specific to summer-onset seasonal affective disorder, sometimes called summer depression, may include:

  • Trouble sleeping (insomnia)
  • Poor appetite
  • Weight loss
  • Agitation or anxiety
  • Increased irritability

thank you for this
 

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Slight vent


I’m torn about this week/end. I’ve had an up and down relationship with my Dad. No issues per se, we just fail to stay in touch. Well, he does and I’ve stopped chasing him for it. When my partner was fighting cancer last year (successfully), didn’t check in once. I’d always call first. So I stopped. Have spoken once since April last year, because his mum died. I’m bringing it on myself a bit, I know

Anyway, my beautiful girl, 6, loves Father’s Day. Loves all events like that. We will have a great day together, until the arvo when she goes back to her mums because it’s technically her weekend. Devastating. She left me 3 years ago, breaking my heart on Fathers Day eve. Good timing. When is a good time to destroy someone. Haven’t recovered, so be it. Just leaves a cloud over the whole day, especially the part when my girl leaves

At least winter is ending 😅
Keep your head up matey,a positve is you are at least seeing your daughter.Enjoy your time with the wee one.
 
I 100% prefer winter over summer.

Perfect day would be like 18 no wind, no rain.

Anyway...

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In Tasmania, that’s a perfect summers day 😁
Keep your head up matey,a positve is you are at least seeing your daughter.Enjoy your time with the wee one.
Was a good day. Flat now. Try not to cross paths with her mum, hurts too much, but that’s essential on these days
 

Spring and summer SAD​

Symptoms specific to summer-onset seasonal affective disorder, sometimes called summer depression, may include:

  • Trouble sleeping (insomnia)
  • Poor appetite
  • Weight loss
  • Agitation or anxiety
  • Increased irritability

And 8th Sept 12 degrees and I've had it.
I like the cold in short doses buts it's wearing
 

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I should be the happiest person this year but I'm not. Do t know what the * has got wrong with me
Am so deep in the black dog. Never thought I'd be. Feels like a hopeless version of chronic fatigue - and that's with meds (duloxetine)

Fear this is me now :/
I'm sorry to hear it, for both of you. Are you getting any useful help, and do you have any idea why things are so bad at the moment?
You're among people who understand here, and you can say anything at all. 👍
 
I raced into the doctor because something tipped us over the edge with anxiety a couple of weeks ago and needed diazepam.

I never suffer from depression usually at all but this has upset us, even though it's a silly thing to someone objective. Worst was walking around in the shopping centre in Perth and all the people in there just seemed like dullard robots, and the world was all 'black'.

I feel a lot better now mostly but still get 'waves' of it during the day and it is so painful.

Feel so sorry for anyone that suffers from it consistently, horrible illness.
 
I think I probably need medication for anxiety and ocd but all the permanent ones simply breed apathy.

Like once I was so happy about an investment that made me a heap of money I was in the front yard jumping around so excited and happy with excitement punching the air. Would losing an extremely amusing moment that you remember forever be worth losing 10 opposite lows?

I'd say no. Even when things are going shit I find that very funny and what life is all about.
 
I raced into the doctor because something tipped us over the edge with anxiety a couple of weeks ago and needed diazepam.

I never suffer from depression usually at all but this has upset us, even though it's a silly thing to someone objective. Worst was walking around in the shopping centre in Perth and all the people in there just seemed like dullard robots, and the world was all 'black'.

I feel a lot better now mostly but still get 'waves' of it during the day and it is so painful.

Feel so sorry for anyone that suffers from it consistently, horrible illness.
That sounds horrible, Kram, and I hope things have improved for you since then. Do you have any thoughts about how to tackle it long-term, and are you seeing anyone beyond your usual doctor?

Sending you best wishes.
 
When anxiety smacks me in the head its largely due to workplace issues. It feels so silly getting worked up over certain things, reacting to them when (in some) cases it was not worth reacting in that way.

I'm learning to take care of myself more instead of diving in head first. I've built up months worth of leave that I'm steadily using when I DO need to "pause" (have only done it twice - not abusing it). Recently went to my doctor and arranged a break...... of course when I returned I had to catch up on things on my own.

When I'm going through the motions, getting to sleep is no issue, staying asleep is! Commonly will sleep for 3-4 hours, wake up and my mind just explodes with negative thoughts and I rarely settle enough to be able to sleep again. If I can, its barely another hour or so before I have to get up and start my day.
 
When anxiety smacks me in the head its largely due to workplace issues. It feels so silly getting worked up over certain things, reacting to them when (in some) cases it was not worth reacting in that way.

I'm learning to take care of myself more instead of diving in head first. I've built up months worth of leave that I'm steadily using when I DO need to "pause" (have only done it twice - not abusing it). Recently went to my doctor and arranged a break...... of course when I returned I had to catch up on things on my own.

When I'm going through the motions, getting to sleep is no issue, staying asleep is! Commonly will sleep for 3-4 hours, wake up and my mind just explodes with negative thoughts and I rarely settle enough to be able to sleep again. If I can, its barely another hour or so before I have to get up and start my day.
I’ve experienced those sleep patterns, it’s terrible. the only thing that helped me was melatonin (over counter).

Once I started to get better sleep, I was able to work through what was actually causing stress.
 

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